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Re: Yeah mentioned objectivity
DUANE 33 Reviews 103 reads
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I think you can find isolated shows on CNN and FOX that are objective - Wolf Blitzers report comes to mind as does Brett Baiers (sp?).  But other than that they both come at things from their own perspective (ie bias) even with some guests who espouse the other view, in what does seem more entertainment than new reporting.

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GaGambler7550 reads

The reaction on the Sunday morning news shows is fucking hysterical and of course predictable. The puta gorda on the George Stephanopoulos show in particular had me in fucking stiches with her outrage.

 
Personally, I fucking loved it. It might be a bit juvenile, but it's way past sometime somebody finally stood up to the real bullies of the MSM.  They launched a war on Trump from the moment he announced his candidacy, but of course they never thought it would be an actual war as they never thought he'd last through the first debate, much less ever become POTUS.

 
Why is it that the media gets a free pass to be as ugly in their criticism of Trump as they like, but the minute he fights back they cry foul?

The MSM is always talking how bad American values are. American values are not the same as personal values, they are not even values they are laws, laws of business I don't care if the issue is abortion it's about money, not your pussy hunny.

MSM has no values or semblance of conscience, nor does it need one, it exists to steer public opinion at the behest of it's corporate sponsorship, and I'm fine with that.

I just don't want to here they all of a sudden found their soul, and all because Trump is a meanie.

Fuck, Trump is the majority of Americans, they just don't know it! :-D

Your topic should  be  'a  white eye on america,.   Get off black.  Everything bad is not black. Is  so- called white color crime beautiful ? I don't think so ; a thief  is a thie. And by the no body is  WHITE , it is CAUCASIAN.

in the closing minutes of the election the look on the faces of the pathetic Hillary supporting newscasters. Maddow was almost in tears, not sure if her vibrator was out of batteries or it was because of the election.  Funny part is watch the MSNBC lies compared to other networks. Watch MSNBC get punked by CNN and shown how wrong they generally are and how bias they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0TaegQ-kw

Van Jones the punk racist on CNN called it a whitelash.......how utterly pathetic and CNN did nothing concerning his racist remarks. Look at the white guy....he's about to call Van the racist a moron or an idiot.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA9aSvHzEIU

Let's not forget the pathetic has been cast of THE VIEW.......the revolving door talk show that has had more hosts that stars who portrayed Batman. It's fun to watch these old decrepit cunts get destroyed on a daily basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_l2aJmfgGU

Posted By: GaGambler

The reaction on the Sunday morning news shows is fucking hysterical and of course predictable. The puta gorda on the George Stephanopoulos show in particular had me in fucking stiches with her outrage.  
   
   
 Personally, I fucking loved it. It might be a bit juvenile, but it's way past sometime somebody finally stood up to the real bullies of the MSM.  They launched a war on Trump from the moment he announced his candidacy, but of course they never thought it would be an actual war as they never thought he'd last through the first debate, much less ever become POTUS.  
   
   
 Why is it that the media gets a free pass to be as ugly in their criticism of Trump as they like, but the minute he fights back they cry foul?

in the Federal government. I was tired of the same old lawyers, policy wonks and academia running Washington. There is a lot of great fucking talent in corporate America, both on the Left and Right. I just didn't want Trump to be the first, and ruin any chance of someone else from the private sector seeking and winning the highest office. Trump is to politics what LaVar Ball is to promotion. You want to put your hand around their respective throats, squeeze real hard, and tell them to get their fucking act together.  

To a politician, CEO or star athlete, MSM, controlling/manipulating the media is the price of admission and success. Learn how to use them, and profit from them, irrespective of any agenda you know they have. Would I like Trump to be more Presidential? Of course, but that's not what he is. Welcome to the WWE

GaGambler114 reads

To tell the truth Trump basher Mark Cuban could be one of them, but the fact of the matter is, we were only given so many choices last year and given the final two choices the decision was an easy one.

 
The good news is, Trump is not a dictator and he will struggle to get both his good ideas and bad ones enacted into law. As for the rest of the world, it's probably high time we had a POTUS who put American interests first. Obama was a globalist and he would have been very happy for the US to be a bit player on the world stage, it was bad enough that he wanted wealth redistribution in this country, he wanted to extend it to the entire world and was fine with allowing the rest of the world to "catch up" to us in all regards as part of being good "world citizens" Trump has pissed off the world by declaring "there is a new sheriff in town" but much of what he has done, NATO being a prime example was long overdue.

WomanLvr89 reads

Such a poor rationalization!  The true test is;

1)  Would you buy real estate from Trump?

2)  Would you buy corporate bonds in any new Trump casino endeavor?

3)  Would you buy a used car from Trump, or any car for that matter?

4)  Would you trust Trump with your daughter or sister (that is a daughter or sister you truly cared about)?

These are such simple questions that show how hypocritical people can be.  Even his staunchest supporters who are behind him publicly, would answer no on every one of these counts and more.

WomanLvr94 reads

Could not tell you.  Never watch MSNBC, Fox, or follow Breitbart, they are clearly partisan and their dogma bores me.  I miss the days when news was reported as news and was not a spinoff of reality TV.

You replied to my post but somehow forgot to answer my questions.  So endemic of the way Trump supporters skirt the reality of his classlessness with deflections/omissions.  He is an outright, unethical liar.  He is OUR president and for this we should all be saddened that our political system has led us to this.

GaGambler100 reads

NO, I would not buy a car, etc etc from either Bill Clinton or Donald Trump, but I voted for BOTH of them for POTUS.

 

No how about my question, how would Bill Clinton fare in your little test if you were taking it? Would you trust him with your money, your wife, your daughter any more than you would Donald Trump???

I wouldn't trust Clinton with my daughter's lunch money!  How did our political landscape get to the point where the only candidates who are capable of garnering the "big money" supporters can do so only after selling their souls to the devil several times over?

Ooooops, answered my own (rhetorical) question, didn't I!

The answers to every one of those questions is a resounding NO, but I still voted for him for POTUS and never regretted me decision despite anything I have learned about him since.

 
So let me ask you, just how would Bill Clinton fare in this little test of yours?

 
Come to think of it, the difference I can think of when asking/answering these questions is that an ugly woman would be safe around Trump whereas even a skank isn't safe around Wild Willy.

 
Now lets ask the other question that is asked so often, who would you rather have a beer with? That question is just as easy, I would MUCH rather have a beer with Bill Clinton as long as his cunt wife wasn't around, but I'd much rather share a glass of champagne with either Ivanka or Melania if the Donald promised to stay away. lol

I think George HW got kind of a raw deal and was a "decent" POTUS, but since the GOP controlled Congress in 96, and there really wasn't a lot of difference between Dole and Bill Clinton, AND since Bill Clinton was also doing a "decent" job and not fucking with the economy that was doing so well at the time, yes I voted for Bill Clinton.

 
Let me ask you Jake, Would you Buy a used car from, invest with, let your sister near blah blah blah, Bill Clinton any more than you would Donald Trump?  

 
Here's another question for the snowflakes, how many of you would donate even a nickel to the Clinton Foundation? lol I bet you Matt is the only one who "might" say yes with a straight face. lol

He's one of the few Republicans I respect.  I respect his war service and his lifetime of government service.  No one was more ready to be President than he was.  It's too bad he was so tone-deaf on domestic policy.  But we were lucky to have him and Baker during the Kuwait War.  Their skill at putting together a broad coalition to oust Saddam from Kuwait was truly great foreign policy.  I didn't vote for him but I continue to respect him.  His wisdom in not going all the way to Baghdad was proven by his own feckless son.
As for the rest, I'm not sure I'd buy a car from Clinton or contribute to the foundation, but only because I haven't really studied how corrupt Bill and Hills really are and how much of what's thrown up against the wall about them is actually true.  And I'm far to lazy to do the homework. They are done.

WomanLvr134 reads

Your political leanings have always been rather clear.  But not even the slightest trace of objectivity, just for today?  I did not watch the referenced piece.  But all too often the dogmatic fans of Trump, object to any media source (except Fox, or Breitbart, of course) that simply reports the facts.

Won't catalog them here, but after a while we lose track of all the baseless claims/assertions made by Trump and his camp.  Still can not figure out how reporting these routinely outrageous remarks/tweets and contrasting them with the truth, can be considered "staging an offensive."  He definitely said those things and did those things which the media reports.  To assert otherwise is plain bullshit!

Could it be that those who support him are so dizzy trying to rationalize his activity, they lose their sense of objectivity?

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You would agree with me that the liberal msm has lost their objectivity and now frequently engages in partisan, advocacy journism since Trumps  
Election correct?

You really need a reality check.  One is not objective when they make a global statement like: "the liberal msm has lost their objectivity...."

For you, OF ALL PEOPLE, well know I have done much more than make "global statements." I have repeatedly and systematically backed up my case through facts, linked articles and numerous examples.

 
The argument was SO strong that even a far left lib like yourself was eventually forced to agree with my logic on some of my points.

 
Sheez...You have to have zero short term memory to pull that off.  

 
Taffy rushing to your defense didnt help you either. lol

GaGambler136 reads

I saw it for myself BEFORE I formed an opinin, how can you argue objectivity when you've never even seen the clip in question?  

HappyChanges83 reads

It is the man stream media's job to be objective. The are supposedly reporting the facts. But are clearly distorting the truth to push there in political agenda.  CNN and MSNBC are the main culprits.  According to Harvard, a really liberal University, FOX is quite objective. Perhaps why the are leading in the ratings.

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...May I apologize in advance for any feelings that my words hurt, YOU IDIOTS ! ! ! do you not realize that the news outlets  ALL of them are selling entertainment saying whatever they can to create controversy in their attempt to attract more listeners & as they attract more listeners they will attract more sponsorship money. Trump makes it easy for them by falling into every trap they set for him with his stupid tweets, if he ever stops tweeting he will cost those news outlets many of their followers. Even your exalted fox news enjoys the listenership drawn by controversy all be it from the other direction, it's them against all the other news organizations. As far as objectivity please hold your breath I'd love to see what shade of blue your face turns before you find any objectivity from ether side in the political arena.

Sad to say you are absolutely correct.  The news they report is the "news" which will attract more of their viewers.  Biased, incomplete, false it does not seem to matter any more.

...You have conveniently left out the other side of the story, yer pal Donny uses these controversies to his advantage to blow a smoke screen over the REAL issues so he can blame others for his failures in addressing them. While Trump may appear a President embroiled in controversies manufactured by the "fake news" media he uses that impression to hide his own incompetence in handling the duties of the office he was elected to. And you might look to examine ANY other motivation for the "fake news" media to attack him, because without that motivation righties accusations fall a little flat.

another nimwit I see.  I agree with everything you posted above, and yet I came up short because (like you) I left out "the other side of the story".

I think you can find isolated shows on CNN and FOX that are objective - Wolf Blitzers report comes to mind as does Brett Baiers (sp?).  But other than that they both come at things from their own perspective (ie bias) even with some guests who espouse the other view, in what does seem more entertainment than new reporting.

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During the campaign last year CNN & NBC went kissing his ass, I mean stopping whatever they were showing and sprinting to Trump's campaign event!     Now they are getting fucked.

At the time, it was so so, nothing for righties to wet their pants...So let's all chill over all this candy ass behavior.

...Snoops video but even as a lefty I think the video is inappropriate, why ? because it promotes gun violence. In our fair city we can't go a day without news reports of at least one (usually more) shooting incidents, too many people have come to believe that firearms are the best tools resolve problems. While some believe that guns are the cause of this problem that answer is a waste of time guns aren't going anywhere & we must learn to live with them, what MUST change is our problem solving attitude & our values for the lives of others.

Beating up an "organization" is much different than shooting the POTUS, even in effigy.  

 
I agree that Snoop's video is highly inappropriate, but it's a free country and I am not going to freak out over it. I also agree that gun violence is a huge problem and that the guns themselves are not going to go away, so when you look at a city like Chicago with some of the toughest gun laws in the country, but with a murder rate rivaling Kabul. (ok, only a "slight" exaggeration there) we have to look somewhere for solutions, stopping the "glorification" of gun violence "might" be a start.

 
One thing the anti gunners seem to ignore, the guns have always been around and guns predate the "gun violence problem" by centuries. When I was a kid it wasn't that uncommon for a kid to bring a gun to school, but what was uncommon was any of them actually shooting anybody with one.  Maybe we just had better impulse control back then, or who knows, maybe the video game culture has desensitized todays' youth to violence? The one thing at least a lefty like you and a righty like me seem to be able to agree on is that there are simply too many guns already out there to ever get even a meaningful fraction off the streets, so we need to look elsewhere for solutions.

I believe there are two big problems, especially with what's called singe shooter games. First, they make the amygdala; that part of the brain that's involved in the fight or flight response, much more sensitive and reactive. Second, many of the games have a redo options, where if you're killed in the game, you press that option, and you restart the game to right before you were killed, thus not having to really experience the consequences. This can be transferred and generalized to everyday life. Neither of these two factors are good for developing impulse control.

And, he allows it the happen again and again. He'd be miles ahead if he'd lose it! ;)

So you are OK with having the equivalent of a spoiled 8 year old as our President?   I thought conservatives were for fiscal responsibility?   But here you are touting the President wasting our money on a stupid juvenile video of him acting like a punk?  By most estimates of staff man hours that cost us near six figures, not to mention the time Trump and his staffers spend on this stupid shit instead of their actual jobs.  

That is just fucking pathetic.

So at least it didn't cost us anything.  It first appeared on a pro-Trump Reddit site a few days before Trump used it.

good info Jake, I guess this did not break the Federal budget as Jinx feared.

having staff perusing redit for thing to tweet or re-tweet! ;)

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