.........and before anyone brings up the deficit under Obama, it's now $500 billion from the $1.4 Trillion Bush handed him. Bush doubled the debt from $5T to $10T, Obama doubled it from $10T to 20T. The drunken sailors under a Trump administration will increase deficits and our current debt of $10T will soar into the stratosphere, probably quadruple. America must be made "GREAT" again at all costs! Also as businesses are unshackled from regulatory oversight the rich get richer and deficits sky rocket, which is what all those mostly poor, "uneducated", rural voters, who ticked the ballot box for Trump have wanted ALL along. The national economy piloted by Trump will mirror the Brownback/Kansas State model which has done gangbusters in recent years...NOT!

BTW, it takes 4 to 8 years to feel the effects of any administration policy.

Clinton handed GWB an economy in good shape & latter ran it into the ground.. The same thing will happen with Trump.

and burst it did.

It currently stands at 4.9%

I clearly said, Obama biggest gains were in "devising new methods of accounting" and that includes new ways of counting unemployment numbers making sure to exclude the underemployed and all those that have simply given up looking for a job.

Plenty of factors that affect the economy, such as budget authorized by Congress, Feds Chief on monetary policy, World Banks, foreign currency manipulation, BRIC & PIIGS economies, BRExit etc.

That said, entertain this thought :  Trump, when it comes to "unregulated predatory capitalism", is GWB on steroids. GWB had a bubble economy that resulted in the worst recession since the great depression. If Trump repeats this on a massive scale, doesn't the possibility of a depression loom ? Can you entertain that thought, or any thought for that matter ?----------LOL.

but sometimes the POTUS does create a business environment that most definitely affects both Wall st and Main st.

Clinton handed Bush a recession.  

Oil prices spiked YESTERDAY, they had been way down in the mid forties until the OPEC deal was announced, The market has been way up, completely decoupled from oil prices ever since the election. Your premise that the market is way up "partly due to higher oil prices" just shows you don't really follow or understand the market.  

As that was before Trump even announced his candidacy.  

Just another immature GOP partisan, too bad, thought otherwise.

So no shock there.

That said, you see no potential economic pitfalls/dangers under Trump ? I will say one thing, perhaps will expound on it later; those millions of rust belt manufacturing jobs that have been gone for many years will never come back , despite the bullshit that Trump is peddling.

You, cheesy, slobbering all over yourself with self praise.

His latest obsession is people's education levels. lol

While Jacks posts certainly present themselves with an over the top pomposity at times, I don't find the majority of his writings to be partisan, per se. He seems to be quite willing to attack his side on more frequent occasions than most. I probably agree with Jack less than 25% of the time, but I do learn from him now and then and he is one of the few board Conservatives here that get my attention and respect, if not my agreement. I also must admit he makes me laugh on more occasions then I would generally be willing to admit, so there is an entertainment side of his musings as well.

I'll cut GaG some slack for posting about his Trump support for his economic self interest, seems credible enough-----as to "other parties", when they have "masculinity issues" & post under aliases, then my bullshit detector goes off. I could be wrong, but don't think so.

He was like that back when he posted under another name, then he was shit canned from here for 3 1/2 years.  

I haven't done so, but I bet if you type in the keywords "crazed loons" you'd come up with a hundred or most posts under his old handle.

How did you get to "masculinity issues" and "post under aliases?" I am not sure who, or what, you are talking about. Furthermore, what do either of those have to do with the pertinent and germane topic at hand? Thank you for replying.

His recent posts make him sound a bit unstable here lately, now sounding all butt hurt about his "masculinity issues" or whatever the fuck he is babbling about with BB and all worked up over peeps using aliases here, as if anyone gives a rats ass about that either. LOL

BTW, if you'd like, forward me your E-mail addy & I'll gladly send you correspondence from GaG referring to you as an "idiot"-------------LOL !

I'll be happy to supply the proof, if necessary--------

Yes, you are most certainly losing it. Not that you ever had it of course.

You must be exhausted with such deep thoughts.

prove it ............If you can

I wonder if he will get himself banned for another 3 1/2 years.

explain this one:  Clinton left office at the end of 2000.  The "bubble" didn't burst until 2008.  That's a loooooong time to lay it at his door.
The fact is, it WAS partly Bill's fault in terms of the housing bubble but the crash of 2008 was a classic example of a disaster that had many fathers in both parties.  You are over-simplifying a VERY complex situation.
What a shock!

But your earlier post is still almost funny in its dumbness.

The dotcom bubble burst in early 2000 Jake, long before Bush stepped into office.  

How long have you been here? You know unless you dumb things down to the third grade level on any matters regarding money, the economy, or any one of a hundred other topics, 99% of what you say will simply fly over everyone's head.  

Don't you want to make him happy? LOL

It is something you have not accomplished and never will.

Bill Clinton had no real part in creating the dotcom bubble. It happened under his watch, but no one could possibly both blame Bill Clinton for the dotcom bubble and claim to be even the least objective at the same time.

Also refer to himself as being "and idiot."
At Idiots We Laugh

Now you are in cheesy's class pointing out a typo and making a big deal about it.

Also, please try not to make your fascination with homosexuality so obvious.
A certain provider with "a surprise" says you love taking pipe yourself.  But, please, count me out.
2017=No Super Bowl for the NY Midgets
You're welcome.

I would say you're a gentleman for you post but that would be a lie.  You are, however, quite correct.
Jack needs to be more careful or JDU will lose its accreditation.
LULZ

and even you don't go THAT low with the insults.

You showed class not ripping me Jake. Please stop that in the future. lo

Just go back to spooning with Sasha.

I voted for Drumpf and she didn't like that. lol

So in the six years that W had in office, he didn't see what was about to happen and maybe react or pumped the brakes on it? I know the policies of the Clinton administration set this up but but did W totally mismanage it?

I believe he must have at least partly seen it coming and rather than try to fix it, he tried to "kick the can down the road" and hope the bubble would burst on someone else's watch