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Re: This argument is largely semantics.
hwy2heaven 169 Reviews 35 reads
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Mexico is ordering a Komatsu D575A dozer, the world's biggest that can take down a mile of wall in twenty minutes.    They will claim it was an accident and meanwhile a mile long whole is opened.

I highly recommend everyone watch this documentary from 2010. It fairly explains how stupid and how devastating the notion of a wall between US and Mexico is, was, and forever shall be.  It is clear the Trump doesn’t actually believe a wall would be effective for anything at all.   This is just his attempt to build himself a grand memorial to his and hopefully not America’s own stupidity.

Look at how Hillary answered the question:

 
"Practically speaking, what’s the difference between Trump’s wall and the fence proposed in 2006?

 
Television news anchor Jorge Ramos asked Clinton this question Jan. 11, 2016 at the Iowa Black and Brown Forum, broadcast on the Fusion network, a Hispanic news channel.

 
"What the difference between your idea and Donald Trump’s idea on building a wall with Mexico?," Ramos asked.

 
"So we do need to have secure borders and what that will take is a combination of technology and physical barrier," Clinton said.

 
"You want a wall then," Ramos interjected.  

 
"No, we’ve --" she said.

 
"You said that."

 
"Well, I voted for border security and some of it was a fence," Clinton said. "I don’t think we ever called it a wall. Maybe in some places it was a wall."

 
So Jinx, first she said it was a "fence", then she called it a "barrier" and then had to concede in some places she believed it could have in fact been a "wall."

Mexico is ordering a Komatsu D575A dozer, the world's biggest that can take down a mile of wall in twenty minutes.    They will claim it was an accident and meanwhile a mile long whole is opened.

That's what they gonna be buying.Because they ain't paying for no stupid, fucking dumb ass wall.

She didn't say a wall even though you lied and insisted she did.  She said a combination of a physical wall and other technical means.  It make ZERO sense to build a wall in large areas of the border. Go away.

Or was just a stupid idea when Hillary voted for a fence?  The idea was tried, it didnt work and everybody else moved on.  Except Dumbass Donnie.  You apparently did not watch the documentary, so your comment is simply not on point.  As usual.

I have said so here at least 3 or 4 times. I don't think the wall is "stupid" I just think the cost/benefit isn't worthwhile

 
But Trump won, and it was a major part of his campaign/promises, and he gets to pursue it. Of course the wall will "work" to some degree. I just disagree with Trump on how much it will help.

The Great Wall in China to protect them from the Mongolian Horde. The Berlin Wall to keep disaffected East Germans in. You know what happened. Same the the Great Beautiful Trump Wall. Just a footnote in history.

Mr.M.Johnson33 reads

strictly for political purposes - he doesn’t care about the wall.  He says he wants the wall because it’s a simplistic visible win: “I said I’d get a wall, and see the wall?! - I did it!”
It’s binary: either there will be a wall or there won’t be a fucking wall
Trump is more-than-willing to shut down the gov’t if he doesn’t get his wall
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dems back down and give him his counter-productive wall in return for DACA.
I’m hoping, for once, the Dems grow a pair and tell Trump “fuck you and your wall, we ain’t agreeing, and if you wanna shut down the gov’t, we’ll see how it works out for you in the MidTerms (2018)”
But, unfortunately, the Dems care about the country and they’ll probably cave....sad
C’mon Dems, sometimes ya gotta get down to Trump’s level in order to win....if you do, Dems, Trump and the Fucking Repubs will finally actually have respect and fear of you
Make My Day, Dems, PLEASE

NYminute37 reads

Trump ALSO said, Mexico would pay for the wall.  Why are politicians letting him get away with that stupid, empty promise?

Talk of the wall is all smoke and mirror nonsense...anther ploy to jack up his base, it's just a conversation of separation. They love hearing this shit about the "Wall".

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