WTF are you rambling on about? Oh yeah the same repetitive shit like always. I seriously doubt that your so-called facts are coming from any credible source. So once again, for the umpteenth time, your "facts" are nothing more than fantasy and what you want to believe is true. Actually, it is the government's goon squad that is violating the 1st and 4th amendment rights of residents by tear gassing and pepper balling peaceful protesters and illegally entering homes and pulling people from cars.
Notice the firearm above his waist band on his back? While attacking ICE officers and their vehicle....
I'm assuming this is his broken rib incident.
Does this mean it was OK to shoot him in the back ten times while 5 ICE thugs held him face-down in the street?
Well???
You had to be dragged kicking and screaming to say, even backhandedly, that the shooting wasn't legit. Meanwhile, you've put up a blizzard of posts pointing out all the ways the victim was at fault.
So stop whining.
I believe it was the day after he was shot. Hardly kicking and screaming, it was acknowledged in what may have been my first post regarding this guy and in the larger part of that conversation about responsibilities of those who have their C&C permit.
You can be disagreeable but you don't have to be dishonest.
Of being called "dishonest" by perhaps the most dishonest poster here.
Indeed, the irony.
ickydik: You had to be dragged kicking and screaming to say, even backhandedly, that the shooting wasn't legit
In what may have been my first post about pretti getting killed I stated this was probably a bad shoot AND I provide the proof* of that statement. And you point your finger at me for hypocrisy, lol.
*I say it may be my first but I recall another comparing both shootings and in that post I may have said the activist lesbian in the car may have been a 50/50 but the nurse's death was likely on the officer. Just covering this to take way your tactic of finding reference to it with different timing and then coming back and screaming LIAR in my face.
I was referring not only to your mostly supportive words about the Pretti murder but also to your recent disingenuous hijinks that have made you a pariah here.
Not to mention that you never miss a chance to smear people with whom you disagree. Viz calling Good an "activist lesbian" and Pretti a "murse." And, of course, that you'll deny these are smears. Just as you deny stalking Scarlett.
I routinely do that because I enjoy how it triggers folks like you. That said, good was an activist and a lesbian. pretti was a nurse and murse isn't really isn't as denigrating as you think it is.
And this bullshit with Scarlett? Yeah...no, that's not a thing. You are witness to an implosion in progress.
This new video shows he isn't as "innocent" as some want to make him out to be. He wasn't a "saint", "non aggressive", etc.
It doesn't mean he should have been killed. But it could shed light on he wasn't just innocent bystander, non confrontational, etc.
Again death shouldn't have happened. But it shows the "light" the left is trying to portrait him.
As we've noted numerous times, Pretti had a carry permit, so I assume the gentlemen in the photo also had theirs, as they were protesting the covid shutdowns during the ladder part of Trump's first term. Trump didn't seem to object. However, "I don't know of any peaceful protester that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign.” - Kristi Noem.
Btw, I heard Pretti was pissed at ICE because their vehicles were blocking an intersection. 
....at protests. Standing by in a show of force but never getting into physical altercations while armed. I'd say both pictures could have the same caption.
"Shall not be infringed"
(1) The agents in this encounter appear to be ICE, not Customs and Border Patrol, as in the later deadly encounter.
(2) Pretti was undoubtly pissed over something and spit on their SUV and kicked out their right tail light.
(3) He clearly had a gun in the back of his pants but never reached for it.
(4) After the agents took him to the ground, subdued him, and talked to him, they let him go. They could have charged him with vandalism, assault, obstruction, resisting, etc.
The actions irrefutably prove
Pretti was prone to violence supported and advocated violence and in fact a violent person.
Filled with hate, anger and had serious anger issues.
Not the nice person he is purported to be
Why the agents did not arrest him for felony assault of federal agents, destruction of federal government property, resisting and obstruction I do not know. Perhaps to show a bit of mercy/sympathy not knowing he is a violent person. In addition to arresting him his gun (and any and all firearm he possessed) should have been confiscated, his concealed carry permit revoked and his permit to purchase revoked. And fired by the VA.
Despite the above he did not deserve to die.
You bring up could have been arrested.... Like so many others but Local LE and judges aren't doing shit. Also the fact that isn't that one of the biggest bitches the liberal left is having.....arresting "protesters".
Seriously..... They say protesters are "innocent"... When I keep talking about how many are breaking laws.... standing in the road and blocking any traffic is illegal. What the chick did was illegal....they tried to detain her and she fled and hit an officer.
But yeah.....
The man shouldn't have been shot. But this shows the real light of what he was like or could be like. He wasn't innocent there to just help. Also ICE fucked up and didn't communicate when disarming and what not.
You don't shoot people for blocking traffic - which they weren't even doing - you move them out of harm's way. And for the umpteenth time, she didn't hit anybody with her car. The videos clearly show the shooter was a foot or more from her vehicle. You seem incapable of accepting reality that doesn't fit your preconceived narrative.
Of course you don't shoot people for blocking traffic.
But You keep missing the points. They were doing illegal activities...which local PD should be stopping.
Then you are ignoring the whole sanctuary cities and states. These states/cities had no issue when Clinton made the laws that ICE is enforcing now. They had no issues when Bush, Obama, and Clinton were getting illegals.... But since Trump is doing it....they need to do an up roar. Facts that people keep ignoring.
But yeah....stay closed off to facts and reality. Stay in your leftist minds where anything Trump does is wrong. You and others with that mindset are the problem with the country. Same with people who only thing Trump is correct with everything.
No shit nobody should be shot for blocking traffic.
But you and others all ignore facts. Protesters now a days break laws and hide behind "freedom of protest".... Which once you violate or infringe on others rights. You right to protest is null.
You ignore the facts that these people were breaking laws, not following laws, breaking rules, etc. They put themselves in harms way. They were not "innocent".
Again I am not blaming anyone for being killed. But the truth hurts....if you play with fire you will get burned.
A supreme court justice once said *your right to just swing your fist freely in the air ends when you connect with someone's nose.". Or something like that.
The two individuals who were killed....broke laws. They resisted, fled, ignored lawful orders, etc. they are not just randomly targeted or innocent by standers. It is tragic and they shouldn't have been killed. But two things can be true at the same time. Both parties can hold some blame. But liberals seem to not grasp this concept.
Please stop repeating yourself and re-posting. It's boring. I don't ignore your so-called points and facts. I just vehemently disagree with everything that you post. The ultimate crime that was committed was murder. These federal goon murderers must be brought to justice.
By violating traffic laws they knowingly exposed themselves to be shot. This repetitive clown is a complete goon.
There isn't a grey area. Break the law...get shot...simple and easy.
It's the constant theme among eighties whether they believe it or not. Give me a reason.
Not even close.....but nice try.
Correct ...the agents look guilty as hell. But they will have their day in court once the investigation gets completed.
But you and others ignore that if you out yourself in a stupid situation these things can happen. Those are facts that you ignore. If I jump into a hungry lion cage....I could get attacked. Do you blame the lion or me? I don't put myself in that situation....I don't or won't have a chance to get attacked but just keep being blind to individuals make choices.
Right like this corrupt and authoritarian administration will conduct a thorough and impartial investigation. They've already declared this murderous thugs innocent. Again I am not ignoring your so-called facts, I am rejecting them with extreme prejudice. And stop with the really dumb analogies. It makes you look like an idiot.
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has a judge or grand jury thought they are innocent? In MN they wouldn't get a fair trial or look. Sorry those are just facts. That is why they didn't open it up to MSP PD. They wouldn't have done a good job with the political motivation behind the Mayor and City. Sorry those are just facts. I would be saying the same thing if in a conservative city with a hot button issues and something went wrong. That city would be politically motivated to push it into a political direction than give it objectivity. All because they would want to "appease the people/protesters" This is what is sad with our nation right now.
Should there be an independent investigation.... YES. Outside of ICE/Fed and MSP PD.... bring in a team from another state.
Also you and others keep forgetting and ignoring facts. Which you say I am victim blaming..... I AM NOT. But there is responsibility of the victim. He put himself in that situation. He was disobeying LAWS.
I know these facts don't fit the narrative you want to push about protesters. BUT they are breaking laws. Right now in neighborhoods in MSP, protesters are blocking roads and demanding to inspect every vehicle that comes thru there. IS THAT LEGAL???? Not unless they got a permit from the city/state. Which again does that violate illegal search and seizure amendment? Protesters are getting away with breaking laws. It has been this way ever since GWB years. Which is bullshit.... enforce the laws. Make protesters do it legally. I am all for legal protest and support anyone's rights to do it. BUT DO IT LEGALLY.
WTF are you rambling on about? Oh yeah the same repetitive shit like always. I seriously doubt that your so-called facts are coming from any credible source. So once again, for the umpteenth time, your "facts" are nothing more than fantasy and what you want to believe is true. Actually, it is the government's goon squad that is violating the 1st and 4th amendment rights of residents by tear gassing and pepper balling peaceful protesters and illegally entering homes and pulling people from cars.
Facts are coming from his own reporting at the time of the "invasion" of the church. HIS OWN POD CASTS and videos. Things he has said out in public. But yeah.... ignore the original source. He was asked to leave the church but didn't.... that is trespassing. Just one law he broke.
Too bad a judge stated those warrants are LEGIT in many cases. Officers have a right to defend themselves.
My question to you is.... WHY are you pissed about this now? These laws that ICE is using for warrants and entries was passed by BILL CLINTON. They have been used by all the Presidents since then. Only now people try to challenge it. Why were you not pissed when these things happened in the past? Why are you not pissed that sanctuary states and cities could have stopped all this bullshit if they would have complied and worked with DHS and ICE officials by turning over these criminals while they were in custody. WHEN THEY HAVE A RETAINER ON THEM.
MORE FACTS YOU IGNORE. You would rather point the finger in one direction that actually look at the big picture and see it is EVERYONES BLAME...... did Trump need to ramp things up.... Not to this degree. But it was needed because states/cities were not helping with immigration. BTW... Trump keeps winning in court on this. So that shows you that the laws have been in place for years and been used by past presidents. FACTS YOU IGNORE.
Now go to the protests.... they are breaking laws not being upheld by local PD. yeah facts you ignore.... you can't block streets with out permits, you cant go into buildings building and just disrupt things, you can't block vehicles, You can't interfere with police officers while they are performing official duties, you can't spit on police (assault), you can't kick vehicles and do damage, etc. But yeah... all of that is just "peaceful" protest. Again.... your rights end when you violate someone else's rights.
FACTS you want to keep ignoring.
Who put into the law what Trump is following?
1. Immigration and Nationality Act/McCarron-Walter Act of 1952. Passed by a Democratic House/Senate/President.
2. Immigration and Nationality Act Amendments (Hart - Celler Act) -1965. Passed by Democratic House/Senate/President
3. Immigration Reform and Control Act - 1986. Democratic House and RHINO Controlled Senate and Regan as President
4. Immigration Act -1990, Dem controlled House/Senate and Republican President
5. Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibility Act - 1996 Democrat President (Clinton)
So why the outrage now? When there were more deportations to date under Obama, Clinton, and Bush during their respective terms. Why are states/cities fighting now????
You are ignoring about protesters breaking LAWS.
What is illegal:
1. Blocking roads unless they have permits
2. Fighting/Spitting on officers
3. Attacking cars and damaging them
4. Resisting arrest/detainment
5. Using a vehicle to block roads or other vehicles
6. Obstructing officers while they are performing legal acts of their professional business.
7. Setting up "roadblocks" to look at vehicles or to inspect them.
8. Trespassing. Once told to leave by owner or manager of a property you must leave or that is TRESPASSING.
I could go on and on with how ALL protesters are breaking the law nowadays. This isn't a right vs left thing. PROTEST LEGALLY!!!!
If you're referring to the video seen from the back of the vehicle, there's another you may or may not have seen yet that I just saw a couple hours ago but taken from the front passenger side. pretti clearly spits at the officer as his door is closing. You can see him hurrying to try to hit him before the door closes. Not a bid difference but he's clearly spitting at another person, not at the vehicle.
FactCheck: "Patel’s Remarks Conflict With Minnesota Gun Law"
From the article . . .
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Minnesota allows individuals with a permit to carry a gun in public, concealed or not, and there is no state law against having a gun while at a demonstration. That contradicts FBI Director Kash Patel’s claim suggesting that “you cannot bring” a loaded firearm “to any sort of protest” in the state.
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There are more than a dozen U.S. states with laws prohibiting the open or concealed carry of firearms at a protest or similar event. Minnesota is not one of them.
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“This is completely incorrect on Minnesota law,” the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, a gun rights advocacy group, said in a social media post responding to Patel’s remarks. “There is no prohibition on a permit holder carrying a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines at a protest or rally in Minnesota.”
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http://www.factcheck.org/2026/01/patels-remarks-conflict-with-minnesota-gun-law/
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Another incompetent pick from the MFIC.
While i believe this guy was asking for problems more that Renee and her dude were, the shooting itself was avoidable and until i see a better angle or hear a reasonable response, i dont think it was justified.
Alex was asking for it though.
Asking for it. You can't be serious. He was face down on the ground, pinned down by 5 or 6 agents, disarmed, and never brandished his weapon. He was executed and then used as target practice by murderous thugs.
YOU IGNORE THINGS..... Alex put himself in that position.
Like rocket mentioned. He didn't "deserve" it. It wasn't a "just shooting". But you have to also understand that Alex's actions started the whole thing. If he didn't go interfere, if he would have just dropped to the ground, if he wasn't there, if he didn't bring a gun, etc. all of these things supersede what happened. HIS DIRECT ACTIONS caused the being taken down to the ground, the ICE agents finding/seeing his gun, etc.
YES the agents fucked up royally. They didn't communicate correctly, over reacted, and killed a guy. BUT at the same time Alex started the whole chain of events by interfering. This isn't victim blaming. This is looking at the whole event. Nobody is saying "it is just" or that punishment shouldn't be handed out. That is for the courts to decide.
Virtually your entire post IS victim blaming. And you're such an ignorant, toxic, partisan mess you don't even know it.
TSTTT
Now go sob your old song about liberals being liberal.
Yep... keep calling me names and it is easy to say "liberal being a liberal".
It isn't victim blaming. By your logic nobody has responsibility for their own actions.
The guy put himself in harm's way. He wasn't protesting peacefully. That isn't victim blaming.... that is saying there is shared responsibility.
All Alex was doing was exercising his 1st amendment rights and coming to the aid of a woman who was violently assaulted by a federal thug. That got him sprayed in the face with chemicals, tackled to the ground by several federal thugs, and when he was defenseless shot multiple times by 2 murderous goons. Yes, you are blaming the victim for being assaulted then murdered. Alex's presence on the street of his city, and his attempt to help a fellow human in need, does not constitute placing himself "in harm's way" except in a brutal dictatorship.
Correct he was peacefully protesting.... UNTIL HE WASNT.
"coming to the aid" was interfering with federal officers. When told to get down immediately he didn't.... he wrestled with officers. YES his actions put him in harms way. The officers didn't just randomly pick him out of a crowd.
Call them thugs and names all you want. But Alex's actions were apart of the problem as well. He didn't deserved to die, be shot, etc. But if he was "peacefully" protesting and standing by.... He would be alive today.
I guess you arent aware of ccw laws
You are the last to engage. Google this because you seem confused.
2nd point where you are confused. Alex isnt daredevil or black widow. He cant just put himself between a fed agent, no matter his opinion on what is going on. What he did was not just in any means and a court of law will likely also come to similar conclusion.
He was not helpimg a fellpw human in need,he was interfering with federal law enforcement. Maybe you and Alex saw it differently, but thats incorrect. And thats why he is dead and you are arguing with sex addicts.
What you and your colleague are saying may be true but only in a brutal dictatorship not in the America that we used to be.
In "everything goes" Biden era, you are correct. Law and order was not respected nor enforced and junkies could rule the streets.
If thats what you like to live in, by all means....go for it. I dont. Most of the US didnt. So we voted in law and order.
You gonna cry about it?
Perhaps you should pay more attention to public opinion polls. If you were to you'll learn that the overwhelming majority of Americans disapprove of ICE's job performance. Only 30 something percent of Americans approve of what ICE is doing. There's reasons why people are protesting against the government's brutal tactics and occupation of American cities. Read the polls. Read the room. This is not what citizens voted for.
I remember polls telling us Hilary was pretty much a given for our next Pres. I also saw pollls telling us Americans approved what Biden was doing at certain points. And i do recall polls says Harris was definitely winning.
I wouldnt put too much thought into what polls say.
We voted for law and order. ICe has less than a half % point of innacurate arrests. Id say they are doing a tough job pretty well.
How predictable of you to say you can't trust the polls. These polls aren't outliers or within the margin of error. All the polling is demonstrating how unpopular ICE's cruel and incompetent tactics are. All the polling results are way outside any margin of error. Thousands are protesting in the streets of Mpls. Millions will protest across the country at the next No Kings day in March. Democrats are winning elections convincingly even in districts that voted for trump. Only a biased, partisan fool would disregard all the signs of how unpopular trump is in general and his deportation tactics are specifically.
Its a very vocal minority that are against the deportations. Most agree that enforcing law and order is needed.
If polls have a tendency to be poor indicators of public opinion in the past, its not foolish to be skeptical. Lets not be so naive pal. And your parents should have raught you long ag9 that othere opinions should have no sway on yours.
There is no evidence that the overwhelming majority of Americans, MAGA excluded, are in favor of the manner that DHS/CBP/ICE are conducting themselves on the streets of this country. Rather there's considerable evidence to the contrary. You are living in a MAGA bubble.
You are just too naive and easily influenced by others.
You can tell you followed as a youngster and probably still do.
Its also likely why you had to turn to paying for pussy. I can read you like a pew center poll.
You keep repeating the same maga bubble line. Bud, i live in la, not sure what podunk area you are from. I certainly do not live in any maga bubble, that is certain.
See right there..... you went "MAGA EXCLUDED".... so if the polls exclude "MAGA".... then how accurate are they?
BTW.... 75% or more of all people want voter ID.... why isn't any democrats listening to that? This has been the % for about 4 years. People want voter ID yet Dem's are not listening.... WHY IS THAT? But I guess those "polls" are wrong in your estimation.
The polls didn't exclude MAGA voters. The polling shows the overwhelming majority of Americans disapprove of this administration's immigration enforcement tactics except MAGA voters who approve of it. Do you understand now ?
I understand that weve seen flawed polls for well over a decade.
I understand that the silent majority is legit just that.
And i understand that Trump was voted in on the topic of immigration. Given the accuracy of the deportations, i understand that a tough job is being done surprisingly well.
Do you understand...thats the question.
I understand what's really happening when it comes to immigration enforcement. The trump/miller regime is not just going after violent criminals aka the "worst of the worst" rather anyone they can to meet their daily quotas. If that includes American citizens or asylum seekers who are in the US legally, these federal thugs don't care. I realize that you want them all gone, but the majority of Americans disagree with such a heavy-handed, cruel, and inhumane approach.
The warrants served are for the violent criminals, sex offenders and bottom of the barrel. Not sure where you are getting different information from.
The amount of americans being picked up is less than a half percent. Look it up. And most are released within 24 hours.
I wpuld like all criminals gone. We should all want that. Never once have i ever believed anything close to it was possible. You assume far too much in your attempt at hanging with any sort of an argument.
No, you're wrong. They are picking up anyone they can. Do you seriously think all 3,000 arrests a day are criminals. They are not. Not even close. I want the criminals gone too, but that's not who is being detained. They've turned America into a 'show me your papers police state'. You need legitimate sources of news and information because who you are relying on now are lying to you and/or leaving a lot of things out.
When they go in with the warrant, they will pick up anyone around. Some get released depending on status, others wont.
Thats how this works. If you arent here legally its time to go. Thats what we voted for. Where do you fail to understand this? If you came here illegally you have broken a law. Its time to respect our borders.
That's what you and your MAGA buddies voted for. I realize you only believe in polls that produce the results that fit your narrative, but over 60% of Americans do not support these cruel and inhumane immigration enforcement tactics.
Once again, assume wrong pal.
Ive said plenty of time i dont put much weight in polls. I dont care what othere opinions are, i care what my opinion is.
Some of you have been lambs for so long so just think what you are fed.
Americans do support this, the majority are not out condemming this. They are staying silent and letting a tough job be carried out.
Im sure no one wants to see people get shot. Ill definitely agree with that. Perhaps we should tell our blue state leaders to quit egging on the crowds. No renee good playing games, no one gets shot. No Pretti thinking he is clint eastwood, no one gets shot. Its not rocket science, dummy
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The people on here are also not understanding that if Sanctuary cities and states would have followed orders or helped with holding these criminals at jails or courts. 80% of this stuff wouldn't be happening.
They are ignoring the fact that ICE/DHS said they will remove people from Minnesota. BUT local PD and State PD are required to help hold illegals in jails and what not. We will see if the local/state PD will follow thru.
Those on here are not understanding that lot of this is brought on by States and Cities. Like I keep mentioning if they would have co-operated much of this wouldn't be happening. The "by catch" of people who get caught up in a warrant search wouldn't be happening. But those are FACTS they want to bury their head in the sand on.
Continue to ignore reality and stay in your MAGA bubble with the rest of the MAGA lemmings. Dumbass.
Reality is realizing that polls dont mean jackshit.
You dont have to get upset about it. Just the truth.
It's only the "truth" in your MAGA bubble.
Azz,
Go get outside. Really take in a public outing. Talk to real people, in real life settings.
I feek you havent done this in awhile.
You may be pleasantly surprised.
Class is dismissed. You boys go get supper
....citizens to carry firearms, especially clowns like murse pretti. The more this gets hashed back and forth, the more convinced the man had clinical anger issues and probably should have his right to carry revoked based on the red flag law on the books in Minnesota. Too bad MPLS PD refused to engage in any crowd control or they would have cuffed and stuffed this idiot when he assaulted the agent the week before he was shot by ICE agents.
Sad part is the "red flag" law went into effect about a year ago.
WHICH I think that law is BULLSHIT.
The only things missing from his clown show are the red rubber nose and clown horn:
http://www.youtube.com/shorts/Dro1-lcOgwY
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Correct on CCW laws. Last to engage, let law enforcement know you have a weapon on you, etc. But facts they want to ignore. Again they want to scream "VICTIM BLAMING"..... no it isn't. It is stating that Alex did have some responsibility in this. He wasn't just "innocent by stander", he wasn't just "peacefully protesting". His actions were apart of the problem.
We all are addicts or have vices in the world. That isn't something to hold against anyone.
Im a sex addict. So are you. So is he. We all are.
Im just stating fact. Not using is in any other way.
got it... but I know how they will try to twist it. Just saying.
First rule of carrying with a ccw is you do not engaged. Alex was more than willing to engage and the worst case unfortunstrly happened.
When you are armed and acting like an asshole, you are definitely asking for something.
Both agents have been placed on paid administrative leave.
Mr. Athens,
I am NOT playing the race card but I’m just not buying it. Out of everyone there, the two responsible people were Brown? All I hear is “Baaaa” from a sacrificial lamb. This may not be my most eloquent response but, it’s my gut reaction.
Best,
Katie
Talk about living in denial
Wow.
Rocky,
You are absolutely correct. I was in denial. If these are the two people responsible, then they are the two people responsible. Their color shouldn't matter. It won't matter in the long run because, according to you, their actions were justifiable. We voted for law and order.
In truth, I shouldn't have posted my knee-jerk reaction to this. I should have thought it over. Haste makes waste. Thank you for calling me out on my BS.
Love,
Katie
I said a court of law will likely find it just. I presonally dont think Alex should have been shot, yet he was asking, maybe begging for problems. I think we likely find that Alex was prone to mental illness of some sort.
And...we did vote for law and order. The majority of americans asked for order
Just for clarification,
The "we voted for law and order" wasn't sarcasm. I meant, we voted for law and order... I voted for Trump for several reasons, and I have been open about it on this board. But I do see the Republican Party as the party of law and order.
I still don't know enough about Pretti's murder to firmly take a stance one way or another. Well, I know it was murder. No one wants to see Americans shot in the face or on the streets... But I liken it to being in a combat zone. I buy the "stakes were high" arguments. I have never been to Minnesota. I have no idea what it is like to be a citizen there. But I do know that we are no longer discussing the Somalian fraud ring; we're only discussing ICE.
One of my bucket list items is to truly explore (vacation) in each US State and Territory, globally. Recent events have made me reconsider.
Best,
Katie
Good post.
If a ccw holder engages the way Alex was..
Its looked at by the courts as being the instigator while knowing you have the ultimate power on your side. Its like being a bully in a way.
Go see the world. The us is nice and all. The world is nicer. Dont limit yourself.
Correct and good discussion.
Being a CCW holder is like when you get your DL. You are expected to obey laws, when asked to see a drivers license while driving you must show it.
Just like a CCW holder is required when dealing with law enforcement let them know you have a CCW and if it is on you. YES even if you are pulled over and not carrying your weapon. You need to tell the officer you have a CCW and that the weapon isn't on you or in the vehicle. IT IS THE LAW. Just like with driving privileges you need to follow laws or face penalties. NOW the penalty should be death. But it is what the courts will take into account with what happened when talking about possible crimes/charges to be brought up on the two ICE agents. Along with all of the other video evidence and happenings.
Mr. Charisma,
I haven't stated this enough, but I love you. Dear goodness, your post made me so wet!
Thank you for objectively looking at this, rather than just being a mouthpiece for one side.
Love,
Katie
I do have a typo in there..... The "leftist" will go off on it.
But i didn't mean to say "Penalty should be death".... it should read..... Now the penalty SHOULD NOT BE DEATH.....
I know the lefties might go off on. Well he wasn't in a vehicle. CORRECT.... he was on the street and engaging them or engaging with them. Which means you have the same duties.... YES EVEN ON THE STREET. When dealing with officers and you have a CCW permit you have to tell them if you are carrying or even if you have a permit... it is required to say this to them. That is a part of getting the permit. It is also taught in your class..... or the class I took to be a CCW permit holder.
The young lady is trying. Lets not go full redneck here hass.
...as long as you've got it handy, get google'n and see who shot Philando Castille and Justine Damond! By the way, I haven't seen any memorials for her...
Boy did this forum take these lil bitches to school on this one.
Class is dismissed.
of the number of times our Official Eunuch has conceded abject defeat.
But i have lost count how many times ive whupped you hoes.
So many times its getting kind of stale.