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Re: Let me add, Palin is too polarizing and she could NEVER win the US Presidency :)EOM
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Posted By: BreakerMorant
and the liberals simply do not get "it'.



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Priapus536902 reads

A one word answer will suffice. For me, a no-brainer ( an adjective which can also describe Palin supporters ) : a resounding no.

Thoughts ?

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Nothing would bring out the left wing base like Palin to vote against her. Her popularity is extremely low among all groups with the sole exception of white males over 40. This is the same demographic that Obama lost in the 2008 election, and yet easily won the election regardless.

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Posted By: Priapus53
A one word answer will suffice. For me, a no-brainer ( an adjective which can also describe Palin supporters ) : a resounding no.

Thoughts ?

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Anything is possible! If the right people wanted her elected, she would be. They would make certain she had the money, and would attack her opponents ferociously, maligning them to such a degree that they would be hardly recognizable to those who truly knew them. And, though she very much wants the power and prestige, to her credit, she is too independent, and not a team player, for said secret, invisible, and extremely powerful supporters to get behind her candidacy, all the way. I say all the way because they may support her to upset some of the other Republican candidates whom they do not with be elected president.

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Posted By: mattradd
Anything is possible! If the right people wanted her elected, she would be. They would make certain she had the money, and would attack her opponents ferociously, maligning them to such a degree that they would be hardly recognizable to those who truly knew them.  
Do you really believe that is possible with Palin:) :)

drdimsum1041 reads

I would have said absolutely not until lately,   but now who ta hell is voting for Bristol?  Palin's have some organized backers.

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Posted By: drdimsum
I would have said absolutely not until lately,   but now who ta hell is voting for Bristol?  Palin's have some organized backers.



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and the liberals simply do not get "it'.

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Posted By: BreakerMorant
and the liberals simply do not get "it'.



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, Hispanic and Blacks who voted for Obama in 2008, come out to vote in 2012? I don't think so.  Obama will still be in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2012 pissing off liberals. Hispanics are dissappointed in Obama, with all this gay rights crap and failing to embark on any immigration reform. If Ophra Winfrey does not campaign for Obama, you know he is toast. Oh yes, unemployment will still be in double digits and the Devils who gave us this economic fiasco will be still be receiving bonuses instead of jail sentences.

In 2008, noticebly absent in the Presidential election were people whom I call the Walmart crowd i.e. church going, NRA card carrying members. McCain for reasons I do not understand did not reach out to this voting block.

Sarah Palin will not make the same mistake as McCain.

Priapus532644 reads

And you shame your military service.

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GaGambler1167 reads

While I disagree with Breaker in re to Palin, I don't find anything to dispute about what he just wrote about the people who got Obama elected.  He makes some valid points, and there is nothing bigoted about pointing out certain truths, and the truth is, Obama rode a wave of black and hispanic voters in record turnout in 2008. It's a documented fact and there is nothing racist in pointing it out. Don't you think every political strategist hasn't crunched these numbers a thousand times.

As to Palin having a snowballs chance in hell of getting the nomination, much less winning the general election. Well that's an entirely different matter. lol

Lastly, Breaker is far from a "troll", I might disagree with some of his positions, but just because he is a rather religious man, doesn't mean he loses his right to voice his opinion, I might not like organized religion, as a matter of fact, I despise it, but if I were to hate everyone with religious beliefs, that would be an awful lot of hating. Are you really up for that much anger in your life?

WTF, If I can make peace (more or less, lol) with Willy, the least you can do is tone down your "anti troll" rhetoric, or at least save it for the real trolls like Ben

Priapus532017 reads

which will keep my big mouth outta here--LOL.

As for BM, hell-----my opinion-----don't like the guy---I find him to be a homophobic, jingoistic "tin soldier". And DON'T pull that crap about me being anti-vet------I revere vets, particularly combat vets.

GaG, if you don't mention "Ben" or Trannyboy, maybe they won't show up here-----SHHHH !

Ok---let me get my ass outta here so I can attend that "anger management" course-------;)

PT.Barnum1089 reads

...Ronald Reagan becoming President, and they had egg on their faces for 8 years.  Much like y'all demean Governor Palin, calling her a lightweight, liberals back then demeaned Reagan the same way.

So, yes.  A resounding "Yes".  Sarah Palin can be elected President in 2 years.

In fact, I'm predicting right now--mark the date--she WILL be elected POTUS in 2 years.

And it will be morning in America again!

PT.Barnum

But if a "community activist" who never held a real job, who only was in the Senate about a year, and about whom there are reasonable questions of country of birth can be president ... anyone can.

I nominate Vladimir Putin. I figure I can get the state of Rhode Island to issue him a birth certificate (which will satisfy the Constitutional requirement); and any other criminal concerns can be answered by the patented Al Gore "no controlling jurisdiction" defense.

GaGambler785 reads

Not to mention our current "community organizer" and 1st term junior senator get elected to the office of POTUS, so I guess you can't rule anything out, but I just can't see someone as polarizing as Palin ever getting enough traction to even win the nomination.

Unfortunately I do see her impacting the election  and especially the primaries by forcing the entire GOP to shift even further to the right to beat her for the nomination, which will have the unintended consequence of making it more difficult to win the general election.

I would certainly hope that whoever wins the nomination won't make the same mistake that McCain made by starting in the middle and shifting to the right in the GE, rather than doing the opposite.

... was primarily his history on issues of illegal immigration and gun control, While we can differ about these issues, they are important issues to the Republican base and guys like me who usually vote Republican couldn't bring ourselves to vote for McCain because of those issues.

Furthermore, his role in Campaign Finance Reform and the way it came out that his efforts at that time had been funded by George Soros was a real killer. It was no mistake that in the wake of that legislation, George Soros' 527 groups could move freely while everyone else was tied down.

Palin didn't make things any better. During that interview when she was asked to name a single SC decision other than Roe v Wade she was like a deer caught in the headlights. I would have settled for Marbury v Madison or Dred Scott. It wouldn't have had to have been something obscure -- just something we all learn about in high school. But she couldn't even pull that off. The fact I might be convinced to have sex with her doesn't mean I'd want her in charge of a nuclear arsenal.

I voted for Chuck Baldwin in that election -- the Constitution Party candidate. And I voted for Ron Paul in the Republican primary. In my view at the time, McCain was evil and Palin was ignorant -- but I wasn't going to vote for Obama either, as he was an avowed socialist, his wife was a radical and he had spent 20 years in a racial separatist church.

GaGambler1865 reads

and I did so in 2008 by voting not so much for McCain, who I don't hold in particular high regard, but against Obama.

My fear is that the candidates of the two major parties will be so detestable that I won't be able to vote for either one. I could not in good conscience vote for either Palin or Obama. Given those two choices I would probably write in WillyWonka instead. or maybe GaGambler. lol

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Posted By: GaGambler
and I did so in 2008 by voting not so much for McCain, who I don't hold in particular high regard, but against Obama.

My fear is that the candidates of the two major parties will be so detestable that I won't be able to vote for either one. I could not in good conscience vote for either Palin or Obama. Given those two choices I would probably write in WillyWonka instead. or maybe GaGambler. lol

Both are running for sure for two different reasons.

We know why Obama is going to run

Ms. Palin is going to run because, in two years running with Mccain is going to fade and will take hit on her popularity which will affect all her other money making activities.

Running for POTUS will keep it going. Here is the reason:

Palin's Net Worth 2008 = $ 1 Million

Palin's Net Worth 2010 = $ 12 Million

Not bad in two years. Why would you want stop the gravy train from rolling, regardless of whether, she gets elected or not? Would you?



GaGambler1352 reads

Of course she is going to run, what I am saying is that if she wins the GOP nomination, I won't vote for either major candidate.

I do agree that Palin is getting rich, and to continue doing so, she needs to stay in the spotlight. What could be more effective for staying in the spotlight than running for POTUS?

I just beleive that while she will impact the election, the PTB will realize she can't possibly win the GE and she won't win the nomination.

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Posted By: anonymousfun
Both are running for sure for two different reasons.

We know why Obama is going to run

Ms. Palin is going to run because, in two years running with Mccain is going to fade and will take hit on her popularity which will affect all her other money making activities.

Running for POTUS will keep it going. Here is the reason:

Palin's Net Worth 2008 = $ 1 Million

Palin's Net Worth 2010 = $ 12 Million

Not bad in two years. Why would you want stop the gravy train from rolling, regardless of whether, she gets elected or not? Would you?




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