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Georgie gets suspended or shit canned........never mind ABC will never do that because it would be the honorable and right thing for them to do.

Steponallofus and ABC agree to pay Trump $15 million and issue public apology to settle defamation suit where Steponshit claimed 10 times that Trump was convicted of rape.

What happened to all of the previous replies, including mine? All deleted?
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Forced to pay or Agreed to pay? posted yesterday
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll [July 19, 2023]
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In almost every other legal system, the LEGAL term for what Trump did would be rape. In NYS, the law discriminates between penetration with a penis and penetration with a finger or other non-penis object.  
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In common parlance, Trump committed rape. In legal parlance in any place other than NYS, Trump committed rape. It is a case of "Trump raped Carroll with his penis." vs "Trump raped Carroll with his finger." vs "Trump forcibly penetrated Carroll against her will and the legal term for that is RAPE in every state except NYS."
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And to lester's other post: "She just sued in a Democrat region where conviction was based on political gain." Carroll sued in the jurisdiction in which she AND Trump live and in which the crime occurred.  Where should she have filed? Moscow?  What was Carroll's "political gain" to be had? NONE!  
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ABC agreed to make a $15M donation to the (future) Pres Library. Regardless, I predict that Trump will house the library in a Trump property and the first rent payment INTO TRUMP'S POCKETS will be $15M. He will probably convert a janitor's closet on the 45th or 47th floor and replace the "Janitor" door sign with "Pres Library - closed until further notice."

Posted By: lester_prairie

Steponallofus and ABC agree to pay Trump $15 million and issue public apology to settle defamation suit where Steponshit claimed 10 times that Trump was convicted of rape.

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Twist, distort the truth so  

 
Let’s compromise and say  
ABC and Georgie were forced to agree to pay ….15 million plus 1 million in attorney fees. What forced them to pay is the fact that they would have had to tell the truth ( the horror of ABC and Georgie telling the truth) at a deposition and then  in court, for all to hear, then probably being forced to pay more.  

 
And to call it a donation is totally dishonest because without the lawsuit no payment would ever be made by ABC or Georgie.

"George Stephanopoulos + ABC apologize to Trump, are forced to pay $15 million"
but the first line of the post says:
"Steponallofus (sic) and ABC agree to pay Trump $15 million..."

 
"forced to pay"/"agree to pay"...Lester is a moron.

Agreed to pay $15 million so ABC can avoid going to trial where they would lose $200 million….PLUS….Trump would get the advantage of discovery in looking into ABC’s coordination with the Democrat Party.

The judge agreed the verdict was the same as a rape finding. So why did ABC agree to settle when they might well have won in court?  
They are afraid of Trump and what he might to do use the government to exact retribution against the company.
This looks like the Board of Directors caved and nothing more.
Shame on them.
Have you noticed other companies acting slavishly toward Trump and making huge contributions to his inauguration?

….on ABC where Trump had to debate three people instead of one. If it went to trial wouldn’t Trump get discovery which would expose ABC for being in bed with the Harris campaign?

Many legal eagles are commenting that TRUMP would have taken a beating during his deposition ... similar to most of his prior depositions.
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- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrumpNation#Lawsuit  
Trump sued Tim O'Brien ("TrumpNation") for $5 BILLION when O'brien wrote that Trump wasn't a billionaire but only had a net worth of ~$250 M. Trump was required to sit for a deposition. His defense was, basically, "I'm as rich as a I say am, even if I can't prove it with financial records." The case was dismissed.
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- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#Allegations_of_impropriety_and_lawsuits
In an infomercial, Trump said he "hand-picked" Trump University's instructors. But in a 2012 deposition, he testified that he never selected the instructors. According to Sexton, Trump signed off on the school's advertisements. Before you heap praise upon Trump for his truthful sworn testimony, keep in mind that several of the "hand picked by Trump" instructors had testified that they never met Trump, they never spoke to Trump and that Trump never met or spoke to them.  
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- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump#Deposition_of_Trump_(October_2022)
Recall that Trump's defense against the rape allegations was that Carroll "wasn't his type." In his deposition, he misidentified Carrol as his wife Marla Maples!! Under oath, Trump accused Carroll and her lawyer of being "aligned with Hillary Clinton" but he also admitted that he had no knowledge of Carroll's political party or documentation of her pursuing a political agenda. He repeatedly accused Carroll's lawyer, Kaplan of being a political operative of Clinton or the Democratic Party. When asked if anyone had given him information on Carroll conspiring with that party or New York magazine, Trump said, "I'll let you know." He threatened to sue Carroll and Kaplan after the proceedings were complete. And many other doozies.  
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Lawyer commenters were writing about the Qs they'd ask Trump to answer UNDER OATH.  If Trump had been deposed in an ABC / Stephanopoulos vs Trump trial, it would be dismissed then and there.  
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That is why many are speculating that Trump threatened ABC and Disney, the parent Corp of ABC, with retaliation if they went forward with the suit which would have forced him to be deposed under oath.  
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Do you know how Trump repeatedly defamed Carroll and is still on the hook for repeating that Carroll is a liar AGAIN? And do you know how Giuliani repeatedly defamed the Georgia election workers by accusing them of using drugs (one was handing to the other some Ginger Mints) and forging or mishandling ballots. Even in the face of videotape evidence and two recounts AND being found guilty of defamation, he would say it over and over again?  
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I don't think he will do it, but Stephanopoulos can resign from ABC, get interviewed on several venues and repeat that Trump is a rapist. Then let Trump sue Stephanopoulos and get himself dragged back into court to be deposed.

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: I seem to remember a certain Presidential debate…
….on ABC where Trump had to debate three people instead of one. If it went to trial wouldn’t Trump get discovery which would expose ABC for being in bed with the Harris campaign?

donate $15 million to Trump’s future presidential library foundation and museum.

 
Lester is a moron.  

"It's a distinction without a difference."  ABC is penalized $15,000,000 regardless of who ends up with the money.  

Something trigger a purge.  I guess no point in reposting since purge could happen again.

The 10 mill ain’t coming directly out of Georgie’s pocket.

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Georgie gets suspended or shit canned........never mind ABC will never do that because it would be the honorable and right thing for them to do.

"[George] Stephanopoulos was referring to the case where a jury found Trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming writer E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s. The jury did not find him [Trump] guilty of rape. However, the judge in the case later clarified that because of New York’s narrow legal definition of “rape,” the jury did not mean that Carroll “failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’”

Posted By: edinathens
Re: What the lawsuit was really about
"[George] Stephanopoulos was referring to the case where a jury found Trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming writer E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s. The jury did not find him [Trump] guilty of rape. However, the judge in the case later clarified that because of New York’s narrow legal definition of “rape,” the jury did not mean that Carroll “failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’”
Do you genuinely believe her bullshit story?

The Russia-collusion special counsel bullshit report.   "Trump's not guilty, but he's also NOT not-guilty."   If ABC didn't think they were completely on the wrong side of this and were facing a potentially HUGE judgment in favor of Trump, they would not have settled this for anything close to $15,000,000.   The Dems just keep spinning, but the public isn't buying it anymore.  Trumps approval rating continues to go up AFTER the election.

Especially the clown above. The fact that the judge in the case wrote what you accurately quoted means nothing to him because he hates facts the conflict with his pre-determined views.
He's a waste of time. And oxygen.

The general consensus among libs on Twitter is that they are angry with ABC News for settling. According to them, the lawsuit was baseless and ABC News just did this to bend the knee to Trump. They are feeling betrayed.

Rabid Lefty Idealists.  They think as long as someone ELSE has the liability if things go wrong, they should go ahead and stand their ground.  If you told these weasels that they would have to donate to the fund to cover the max liability if ABC loses, watch them scatter in different directions.  Settlement was the smart move.  Dems have no respect for other people's money.  

ABC rushed to settle after the judge allowed the deposition of Georgie.  It turns out his producer told him several times not to use the word rape.  That is devastating to the case.  It transforms it from an innocent blunder to a willful act.  It also proves what a piece of shit Georgie is, but we knew that.

ABC knew the legal grounds on this was murky, but George Rapenopoulos said it anyway. Wouldn't it be funny if ABC took that 16 million out of his salary? I mean assuming he keeps his job.  

The company's annual revenues for last year were nearly $90 Billion. As for George, I wouldn't be surprised if he quits because of the gutless behavior of Disney management in settling instead of fighting the suit.

You think it was gutless for ABC News to avoid depositions? I think they had no choice but to settle.

Georgie wanted to blacken Trumps eye and despite the attempts of his producer he pressed on. He didn’t give two shits about the fact Nancy Mace was a rape survivor.  

This from a guy who attacked repeatedly Bill Clinton’s accusers.  

The lefts TDS knows no bounds.

Funny thing is the link says he just reupped with ABC so now he’s handcuffed to them.

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