If a particular spot is too dangerous for the President to visit personally, he should send his wife, and their 15 year old daughter. Furthermore, send along a comic and a singer for added security.

Oh wait, silly me, that only applies when Hillary is the first lady

I swear to God, I can't stop laughing at this "landing under sniper fire" story. Apparently, "misspoke" is the new euphamism for "I told a bald faced lie, and was too stupid to realize that there were cameras there to catch me lying"

Mr "I invented the internet" Al Gore. Not that the Clintons need any lessons in lying.

LOL oh this is far worse than anything Al Gore ever said - with the exception of "well, I drank alot of tea so I had to piss alot, and that is why I never noticed money changing hands illegally".

At least with the internet quote, it really came down to interpretation, and quite frankly, what Gore said was not a lie, just a poorly worded statement of fact.

But when you say you landed under sniper fire and had to run for a motorcade, when in fact you climbed off a plane to be greeted by an 8 year old who read you a poem - that isn't just a misstatement, its a bald faced lie.

LOL Boy Democrats can sure pick them

Nonono, she's been taking lessons from the Liar-in-Chief:  "I cannot tell a lie, I was too drunk to remember being arrested, or where I was on ANG duty, or where the WMDs went, or much of anything, hyuk, hyuk."

Beagle and set sail for fresher waters. You can't excuse every Demo fuckup by pointing at George Bush. Sorry but evolution seems to have passed you by.

for in fact - the internet (or more importantly its predecessor) was around LONG before Gore "invested in" it's founding... As he says he meant.  And that IS historical fact.

My original diatribe on Gore and the frickin internet stoopidity is below with the link to the link.  Oh... and as for the global warming...

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/11/brrrr-south-america-has-coldest-winter.html

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080313_coolest.html

let's face it - the man spins truth to what he wants it to be - rather than what 'tis.

"as it is buried in the post below... so here tis.... Gore and the frickin internet!

while Gore did not exactly say that he invented the internet... what he did say is actually worse... as on 9 March 1999 in an interview with Wolf Blitzer he stated

"....During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."  

That is, he lead the group that created the internet!  lol!

"The first recorded description of the social interactions that could be enabled through networking was a series of memos written by J.C.R. Licklider of MIT in August 1962 discussing his "Galactic Network" concept. He envisioned a globally interconnected set of computers through which everyone could quickly access data and programs from any site. In spirit, the concept was very much like the Internet of today. Licklider was the first head of the computer research program at DARPA, 4 starting in October 1962. While at DARPA he convinced his successors at DARPA, Ivan Sutherland, Bob Taylor, and MIT researcher Lawrence G. Roberts, of the importance of this networking concept."

so in 1962 WHERE was FREAKY GORE!?  in 1962 he was what  14 yrs old...  oh, i get it he was working in his basement!  all the while... just like Bill Gates or Steven Jobs.... yea, thats right... workin in the basement

Seriously, Gore misspoke. he did NOT take the initiative in creating the internet.  It existed already.  He did lead the senate in pushing through legislation to fund an expansion of the existing network.

Get over yourselves... the guy exaggerates fact... or most often - fabricates "fact" from the musings of his mind."

sniper?  or misspoke????     Sheese - give the li'l darlin a break.... and I did not have sex with that woman.... ms... uh... clinton.... except for that one time!

every time Harry says something to which you have no answer for, you tell him to sober up. I am just going to assume from here on out that every time you tell Harry to sober up that he has said something for which you have no argument.

That is one of the hazards of making several hundred posts per month, you become rather transparent.

but I thought he would post under his own name with such a pithy response...

Strange that he has not responded to my post concerning Al Gore's misstatements....  one of which earned him the no bell prize....

but then again... guess he did not want to extend the discussion... and hence his one liner.   - no laws or statutes to cite... yet.

I don't try to reason with drunks and other crazy mofos.

So I'm gonna assume you don't know one when you see  one.

JackO, surely you jest, aint noone crazy round these parts, and there certainly isn't anyone around with multiple personality disorder either. Rofl

hallucinating anyway...

If President Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, "created" the Interstate Highway System, we would not have seen dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he "invented" the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Ike meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with his Internet statement".

hillary got caught with her britches around her ankles... she lied... dodging bullets... sure... she was dodging bullets... probably from ex-Rose law firm incarcerated folk.  gimme a break.  All these folks would be better off telling the truth rather than hiding behind a web of incredibility.

lets face it, if you read obama's book - he hides little.  and he provides a rags to riches story that is typically american.... where does he go wrong?  To keep saying that you cannot make it in america if you are black.  sorry, but he is the best evidence that if you work hard - you can make it.  The social programs intended to help - keep people from helping themselves.

and no, I don't accept that al gore was innocent in his misstatement.  it was caluculated... read my entire post.  also read the articles on antartic cooling... yet another fabrication built out of half truths... but one which will line his pockets...  with gold.

get real...

and for the record - DID Ike say that he invented the Interstate?  not likely since Ike himself would credit the autobahn as the inspiration for the interstate... never mind his participation in a transcontinental convoy in 1919- makeing that an almost 40 year association with the interstate concept before he signed the bill into law in 1956.   quite the contrast to Al "fucking the world for personal gain" Gore whose association with the internet was less than a decade.  For the record, FDR wanted the entire system to be toll!  imagine - paying for the highway with gas taxes, and a use tax on top of that....   to say nothing of the self perpetuating jobs that toll booths seem to spawn...

but don't expect Moose to read your link. He doesn't even read his own if the material in it conflicts with his own preconceived notions. It's been barely a week since he insisted that Obama was for gun rights inspite of the fact that his own link clearly stated that Obama was in favor of banning all handguns in Washington DC.

Let's face it, Moose is one of those partisans who believes in "hear no evil, see no evil" at least when it comes to people from the left side of the aisle.

moose is a leftwing dittohead.

but since you are 100% completely fucking right, I guess I won't. lol

Anyone remember Pepe, the rabid right wing fanatic who was here for a short time? Well Moose is the left wing's answer to Pepe. Talk about a kool aid drinker.

good at anything else?......No

This board was actually good for honest debate at one time, but now becuase of the far right kooks like the aforementioned GA Gabmler (talk about a red state heathen whose been brainwashed by Limbaugh) & the always antagonistic Billkile, this board has been taken over by the right who aren't interested in debate, but name-calling....

"F" you both....

about as witty as your reponse to my request that you read and defend your own link.

If you don't like the material written in a news article you shouldn't post it. At the very least you should read it to see if it actually supports the premise that you are trying to advance. I don't know how you could have missed the part about Obama supporting a gun ban in DC, or do you in your koolaid addled brain actually believe that a total ban on handguns does not infringe on an indviduals right to bear arms?

BTW I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area. I didn't move to Atlanta till I was 35, I don't particularly like Rush Limbaugh and if you've ever read any of my posts you'd know I absolutely despise the "Christian Right"

Far right kook? Not hardly, unless you consider anyone right of Castro to be part of the far right.

He's FAR more likely to engaged in honest debate than I am! It takes him WAAAAAAY longer to revert to name calling than me. He's got more free time on his hands and far more patience.

Your memories of days gone by are a reflection of how YOU see the tone of the board. As long as your fellow bitchninnies could come and dump on Bush and go your merry way, everything, according to you, was fine. Well Moosey Poo, the world does'nt revolve around you.

I tried the "reasoned debate" thing and came to find it  a HUGE waste of time. No one abides by any rules here. No one keeps score. Liars lie with impunity. SO WTF?

So Moosey, why don't YOU try to tone it down? Try not to be such a wuss and Leftwing dittohead KeithieBlubbermanbutt muncher, try having a little fun and maybe you'll find people will treat ya different......que no?

"Talk about a kool aid drinker" - referring to me in a prior post...

Well, I'm a little confused on the Obama 2nd. Amendment issue, because I clearly heard him say in a prior debate that he believes in 2nd. Amendment rights......Its like when Rudy Giuliani used to say that he is pro-choice, YET he supports justices like Scalia & Thomas, who would overturn Roe V. Wade if they could....That's double talk...

Here, take the short quiz in the link, perhaps you're more liberal or libertarian than you think...

Lots of em!!

So, give the bastard a break. Being a pathological liar is a heavy burden to carry.

Of course it's double talk. You firmly portrayed him as a supporter of the second ammenment yet you posted a link that clearly states that he supports banning "ALL" handguns in DC. You, and he can't have it both ways. He is a lying, pandering politician, just like the rest of them.

As far as your quiz goes, perhaps I am more liberal or libertarian than YOU think. You are the one portraying me as a far rightwinger. The truth be known, I have always considered myself closer to the libertarians than either major party. Your little quiz bears that out, my answers place me squarely in the Libertarian camp.

If you can be honest with yourself about the Obama 2nd Ammendment issue, maybe there is hope for you yet, maybe you are not the rabid left winger that you portray yourself to be. You don't have to love the right to be honest about the left. Try the middle, independent thinking might be a pleasant change from follwing party lines, EITHER party.

Where is your Ike quote that is similar to Gore's quote?  nowhere, that's where - cause Ike was not as stupid as Gore.  

Really - with the pervasive news media ALWAYS recording everything anyone in the public eye says... and their willingness to "use the quote" in a manner likely to distort and defame a person to suit the reporters own "world view" should a politician be smart enough to monitor what he or she says, and then be smart enough to know when and where they lied!?? and to NOT get caught??  really - this is just too much...

so Moose... respond to me.  provide the quotes... and reference your work...  no points if your work is tardy.

I'm liberal, but certainly not as far left as you think I am...But then, when certain posters who shall remain nameless (Billkile, GA Gambler, among a few others) start with the "drinking the kool aid" blasts & other brilliant quips, well, then I end up engaging in name-calling to, & good, honest dialogue is gone...

To be frank, 2nd. Amendment issues don't concern me, I don't own a gun, & probably never will....I don't have anything against gun ownership & believe in the right to bear arms....I'm more concerned with 1st. Amendment type issues...

to the Constitution is a dangerous path to tread.

It;'s your accuracy. First off whether or not the 2nd ammendment is impotant to you, you did post a link that contradicted your own(and your candadate's) position. To say the issue is not important to you a week later is bit lame, wouldn't you agree.

You've also tried to categorize me as a "far right wing kook". the kook part might be debatable, but again using your own link my positions put me in the Libertarian camp, the far right.

Which one of us is doing the name calling, I asked you to support your own link and you responed by calling me a right wing kook. You still haven't answered my original question, unless stating that your own issue is unimportant to you is to be considered an answer.

at least you won't be crawling out in the street and making a mess there.

We should take all you gambling little old ladies and drunk little old men off your social security, and put you back on sewing piecework for Triangle Shirtwaist Inc.

The comparison was being made that IF Ike said he created the IHS, people would NOT have taken that LITERALLY (ie; Ike digging the ditches & painting the yellow lines on the road), like they did when Gore made the internet comment...

And of course, Gore's internet comment was fodder for Republicans, since he made that comment as his presidential campaign was getting underway in 2000.....So, that was a perfect time for the Republicans to take something OUT OF CONTEXT, which they did to a Hall of Fame level....

I clean up messes that others create when the misrepresent their data, the tasks that they say they will perform under contract and what they can or cannot conclude from the information at hand.  

Clearly - GORE GOT CAUGHT trying to up himself...  Clearly Hillary GOT CAUGHT trying to paint a picture that was not faithful to the events... Clearly drawing an inference to IKE Was way off base... as I pointed out, Ike actually had almost 40 years of experience in military transport when he signed the law for the interstate into effect... 40 fricking years... of transport - in addition to the direct observation of transport layouts on other continents... yea.... that really does compare to a c students musings wrt what he wanted you to believe he did... and what he actually did!

yea....

He has said on his site & at a debate, that he's for 2nd. Amendement rights, yet supports the DC ban on handguns, so that is a little confusing....

But Obama is smart enough to know that it would be political suicide to not support 2nd. Amendment rights, so I'm confident no ones guns are going to be taken away from them under his administration....

There is nothing ambiguous or confusing about it.He's a liar. I'm glad you're confident no guns will be banned, but of course you admittedly don't really care about the issue, and you definitely don't want to find fault with your golden boy. Sorry Moose, but your guy is just as big a lying cheating politician as any other candidate running, probably more so.

I guess it's ok for a partisan to only care about certain parts of the Constitution, personally I believe the second ammendment helps ensure the first.

I would love to say that I support all 27 Ammendments equally, but that would be a lie. I definitely would be against the 18th which makes me a big fan of the 21st. I'm not too crazy about the 16th, but I guess it's a neccesary evil.

and see the power of words!

Then they can join us in a chorus of "Show Me" from My Fair Lady.

at the very least we could help toughen em up for the campaign triail so that when someone calls them a  lying muthafucka POS Libbyasswipe they would be able to shake it off and ask,

"I'm sorry, could you repeat the question?"



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When I run for President, I'm gonna have free psychiatric screening in the back of the room, and I'll just refer those questions to Nurse Ratched.

As I said, it would be political suicide to promote an anti-2nd. Amendment platform....Yes, the issue doesn't mean much to me, but i know it's important to alot of people, 2nd. Amendment rights will be protected whether it's Obama or Clinton.....

And BTW, on that short quiz I attached a few posts back, I was a libertarian on the social issues (the first 5 questions), so see, I have libertarian traits!..

paranoid wack jobs on both sides wrangling about total bullshit!  So they stay away from important shit!

He'll go back to trolling airport bathroom stalls!!

yeah, then they could detour to the Tranny Board and sing "why Can't A woman Be More Like A Man?"

Or again, maybe not.

do you think they really wanna court the Sausage Surprise vote?