Politics and Religion

Re: How many references… (Excellent Points, Willy)
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“Woke” may have originated in black culture back in the 40’s, but it didn’t enter popular use in American political culture until the late ‘90s.

With 32 states passing bills to basically cancel any black history or culture, to paint America history as a lily white cloud of perfections are they doing more harm than good to their kids? Will their kids be able to adapt in the real world? With all the coddling to not hurt little Johnny's precious feelings are they cultivating the social misfits of tomorrow? Can these kids leave rural counties and adjust to urban living with a mix and diverse culture? Can we say they'll be a "Fish out of water"?
And I'm sure the father in moping around all day, muttering "Fucking Liberals, "Dam Blacks", "Antifa, BLM bullshit"..Poor kids has to hear his dads grievances 24/7..This is what this kid is use to hearing so I can see this carrying on in this poor kids life. And you guys know this is true, we all know guys like this, be it your crazy uncle Bob or?
My guess is that because most kids have been sheltered,  will stay in the outskirts of their state where their comfort level is and will join a far right wing militia.. they'll just stay with their peeps, it's what they know, no?

RespectfulRobert36 reads

"cancel any black history or culture." I don't think that is what is going on. Is there an overreaction to the BLM movement and wokeness? Yes, but it is not totally unjustifiable.  
In many quarters now, especially on cable and national TV, the word "white" has become a pejorative. THATS doesn't bother you? Anytime I hear a liberal mutter the word on TV it is always with disgust. It embarrasses me, tbh.  
Once again, I am totally in Bill Maher's camp on this one. Judge people on an individual basis, and NOT part of their group identity. Isn't that the only fair and equitable way to do it? Isn't that the message MLK was spreading?

progressives to rewrite history fundamentally change American culture. They do that by dividing people rather than uniting them.  Trump was popular because he regarded all Americans as the same.  Even while Dems were calling him racist, he was funding black colleges and creating opportunity zones in black communities to fund and support black-owned businesses.  Democrats know they can't win by declaring everyone to be the same, they are constantly inventing labels for people to keep them divided.  Willy states it well above, with his "if you're not this, you're that" examples.  That's how you create division, the foundation of the Democrat playbook. Liberals WANT you to be embarrassed to be white.  That's the point, and it seems to be working on YOU.  Not so much on many of the rest of us.

RespectfulRobert48 reads

Many of my friends are sick of the woke, or what I would call the "overly woke." Being racially conscious is one thing, and a must imo, but placing people into categories of good or bad, simply because of race is...well...racist.  
I think the super woke crowd really means well. Honestly, I do. But there are some on the far left, much like the defund the police crowd, who means well but doesn't think the issue all the way through.  
I dare anyone to tell me they really think MLK would be down with over the top wokeness. Not that he wouldn't agree with them on some issues, some of the time, but he would also, imho, think they are off base, without questioning their motives.

You have to see what's happening in Red State school boards. It seems that in their quest of overdoing the undo of woke, ( I never understood that term, it seems that it a contrive right wing term to add to their grievance list) It'll come to where some state have a rat line to snitch on teachers, some states would like to have teachers monitored. All this will do is create frivolous lawsuits, teachers are going to say "fuck it". So little Johnny parents want the south to win the civil war, ok the south won. What, Japanese didn't serve in internment camps during WW2? Ok, Japanese weren't in camps and they didn't lose their homes and businesses. They were model citizens and treated very good. The Chinese didn't build the Central Pacific Railroad on slave labor wages, Nah they all drove Benz''s, so what's their bitch. And Jackie Robinson had it easy, so there's nothing to see here.
Our history is ugly but it seems like the republicans are trying to rewrite history, but it's our history. And I really think if this continues, in 15-20 years we're going to have young adults that wouldn't mix well together.  
And I agree with the "Judge people on an individual basis, and NOT part of their group identity" but sorry to say there's a side that just doesn't see it that way.

RespectfulRobert30 reads

I am absolutely NO expert on what goes on in Trump states school boards! Lol. Maybe you can enlighten me. haha!
So I need to take you at your word on that.
I SO want us to teach history accurately, so any plan to not do so would be in line with "The Big Lie". I would be surprised however to hear any Republicans giving cover to Franklin Delano Roosevelt, for that is what they would be doing by downplaying or ignoring the Japanese internment. Insane and misguided Republicans tell me he was a commie! Lol
Note: awesome link! What a great movie!

Could you have envision what happened on 1/6 would have even happened.... was it even predictable or conceivable??
We've come along way from 2002.

Democrats burning down major cities during the summer that resulted in billions of dollars worth of damage and several deaths.  This is where the only REAL insurrection occurred when insurrectionists took possession of an area and declared the area seceded from the United States.  THAT'S the only real insurrection that occurred.  

How many "Democrats" were charged with insurrection over the summer? And on 1/6 how many republicans are being charged with insurrection? About 10/11??....And counting

on the part of the Justice department because they have been getting bashed in the news media by calling it an insurrection and nearly a year later they had not yet charged anyone with insurrection.  They have singled out some low- level participants to charge with insurrection recently to save face.  Let's see how many are actually tried and convicted.  Anybody can be charged with anything, but under the Constitution, they are innocent until PROVEN guilty (the standard for a criminal conviction is "beyond a reasonable doubt.")  If they don't have evidence that the ones charged were organized and acting in concert with a plan to overthrow the government, rather than just showing up for the rally and then getting caught up in the rioting, they will not be convicted.   No evil intent = no conviction.  There is no such thing as negligent insurrection.  Charging someone doesn't mean shit if you can't make it stick.  Enjoy your fantasy of an insurrection until your bubble bursts.  

20 years ago I don’t think anyone would see Democratic presidential candidates publicizing and contributing to bail funds for rioters, looters and arsonists.

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