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Re: EXACTLY!
jazzman121847 111 Reviews 77 reads
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From a side angle of the video that I've seen, the shooter had already moved away from the vehicle when the SUV moved forward and he began shooting.  Based on that view the shooter was not hit by the car and stories to the contrary are part of the cover up. That's why a full, impartial, and transparent investigation by MN law enforcement is essential.

So far I've watched 2 videos at different angles and the ICE agent who put 2 to 3 shots into the head/face of the driver, murdering her, walked away without a scratch.

Noem and trump are piling on the bullshit as usual.  The POTUS said "The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator".  Please.  Then, trump went further saying the driver ran over the ICE agent who is now hospitalized.  I'd like to see that video or take whatever psychedelics he took.   I will agree with Cowgirl Barbie Noem on one point...that this is domestic terrorism.  Our own federal agent murdered a white female on US soil who didn't appear to be "the target of any law-enforcement activity", per MN police.  Though the rest of her statement was bullshit-lite spin to set up trump's massive bullshit spin.  I didn't see agents trying to push their car out of the snow.  The victim wasn't attacking anyone, just merely trying to drive away as a car from behind her did before.  The victim did not attempt to run anyone over and only rammed into a car parked on the street after she was shot dead and the car was no longer in her control.

Another great day in America brought to you by the trump administration.  Just 3 more years.

I have seen 2 vids as well.

 
The lady did hit the officer.   They guy could be in the hospital, but not for any injuries sustained by the "hit".  

 
There was an officer in front of the vehicle (he was by the driver side headlight area not to the side) when she was moving forward.  (Guy without a hat on)   He drew his pistol as she was moving forward and she did hit/bump him.  

 
Now could have the officer jumped out of the way without shooting..... YES.    

 
Now I want to hear the audio from body cams and video from body cams.   To see what was said prior, during, etc.

 
Remember a federal officer gives you a legal order to stop..... you must stop.   Hitting someone with a vehicle is assault... a 2nd degree assault.  A vehicle is considered a "dangerous weapon" in MN.   Also just "striking" or threats to an officer is 4th degree assault.   So again.... breaking laws... other than just fleeing.  

I am not "justifying" or "applauding" this death.  Just stating facts in MN that need and will be considered.     In these videos here are the facts:

 
1. She was fleeing/resisting.
2. She did hit an officer (even slightly) with a vehicle (dangerous/deadly weapon).

 
Questions will be...
Intent is what will need to be discussed and possibly found out with body cam audio/video.
What lead up to the confrontation.

So there may not be more definitive footage.
Yes, it did appear the car clipped the officer but he was not in enough danger, IMHO, to be entitled to shoot her. And why was she stopped to begin with?
This is what happens when you hire a bunch of yahoos to do law enforcement.

Different angle.

 
She clipped the officer.

 
People are saying.... WHEELS were turned.   Yep... that show intent wasn't to "ram him".   Yet an officer isn't looking at the wheels when a vehicle is coming right at him and HITS THEM.

 
Correct.   We need to know why was she stopped.   But if you notice in other videos.... There are three other cars in front of her that FLEE from the area.   Was she with them or not?    We again dont know the story as of yet.  

So an officer is just supposed to get hit by a vehicle and not protect themselves?

 
People are just allowed to run over anyone they want?

 
People shouldn't obey any orders from any officers federal, local, state, etc.?

 
It should just be lawless?   Don't listen to authorities?   Block Traffic?   Make U Turns where every you see fit?   etc.   Fuck all traffic laws?    

Procedural rules for cops include: Don't place yourself in front of a car. He did.
Procedural rules are: Don't discharge your gun in the direction of innocent bystanders. He did.
Procedural rules are to NOT try to stop a runaway vehicle with gunfire but to follow it and disable the car. There are many ways to do this. They do NOT include jumping in front of the car while drawing your gun and shooting the driver in the face.
In other words, this guy violated several key rules of police conduct. I doubt he was ever a cop before this.
Your attempting to defend him, even as fecklessly as you did, simply demonstrates that you're a thug. And a stupid one at that.

Yeah.... how come when more stuff keeps coming out it doesn't look good for the Left's narrative.

 
Again I am not saying she deserved to be shot at all.   But this wasn't "murder".

 
Video from an ICE officer's phone.   You can hear the wife yelling "DRIVE BABY DRIVE".  

 
Like you are saying.   Protocol will be looked at during trial.  Which is fine.    Yet the facts remain..... She hit him with a vehicle.  A deadly weapon.   She was FLEEING.   This wasn't a "traffic stop".   She was committing a felony (impeding federal officers).  This wasn't someone "dropping of a kid" at a daycare.   This wasn't "mistaken" identity.   Or all the other crap that has been floating around.    

 
There is also a video from across the street showing that this vehicle was blocking traffic and impeding officers for about 4 mins.  (Felony)    So again... context matters.   The before, during, and after.

 
More and more info is coming out.

 
But yeah..... not helping the cause for liberals who scream MURDER.

in any way what I pointed out?
NONE of it justifies the use of deadly force.
Who CARES if someone yelled "Drive, baby, drive!???" Totally irrelevant.

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You see what you want to see, I guess.  I've watched videos from multiple angles. I didn't see the shooter get hit by the vehicle. One angle shows him a few feet from the car.  She was driving away not fleeing. Seconds before she was shot, she was smiling and telling the officer that she's not mad at him. The shooter totally overreacted and opened fire. She did nothing to deserve being executed. From what I've seen so far, this looks like an excessive use of deadly force. She was murdered.

The moment she hit the gas she gave all the justificstion a court of law will require.  

This also wasnt a traffic stop. These two nitwits put themselves in this dangerous position, thinking they would be just fine while attempting to interupt a federal officer from doing their job.

Looking like a complete fucking idiot playing dress up while spewing her lies.

Thanks for the plug, genius! LOL.

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Even after correcting yourself, it still looks stupid, lol.  Hardly a plug for you, I simply replied to your post.  Nice try pimp.

He's also confused and stupid (and possibly trolling), throwing around insults like "hooker" and "pimp" on a fuckboard where escorts and agencies are a vital part of what this site is for. We've already heard the "pimp" smear from our ugliest, nastiest poster for whom felching is an obsession. So snafool is in wonderful company.

Yeah..... Her and Trump both should have shut up right away.

 
They both stated lies without knowing all the fact.   Saying the officer was dragged, didn't know how many shots were fired.  Saying the guy was in the hospital... etc.

Just fyi, all of that did in fact happen to the shooter
 
You should look it up

...after more information, I'm adjusting to a 70/30 for fault being mainly on HER side.

IF the reporting I'm hearing is true, it brings context to what has happened so far.  That's a big if and it likely will change.

 
1.  The vic is a lesbo lefty from Colorado and is back here with the single job to interfere with ICE operations.  She scores very high on the FAFO matrix.
2.  Eye witness accounts have her as leading the protest response team and succeeded and blocking ICE and disrupting their duties.  This alone is a serious violation of the law and ironically, being pushed and supported by State and Federal political leaders.
3.  The officer that shot her was dragged by a car previously in the same kind of scenario IN MINNEAPOLIS a month or so ago.
4.  Initially, it looked like the officer was at the front corner of the vehicle when he first shot.  Later released footage shows the first shot coming as she guns the engine and lurches forward directly at him.  Yes, she's got her wheels turned and it's not legal to shoot at a fleeing suspect but that doesn't appear to be the case nor would it be expected for the shooter to determine her intent as anything but to run him over.

 
Who's responsible right now??  Woman from CO 70%, Shooter 30%.  While Governor Tampon is using words like ICE killing "caring neighbors" I'm still waiting for more information.

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Until I heard the mayor of Minneapolis, tampon Tim, and the read the posts of the  TER Leftists who all convinced me that it was a justified shooting by the ICE agent.

Your source, like you, has a very vivid imagination. I call bullshit on your entire post.

Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: An hour ago, I was at a 50/50 for fault on this one...
Your source, like you, has a very vivid imagination. I call bullshit on your entire post.
Of course you do... what about his post is factually wrong?

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What is factually wrong, he is just posting what his masters tell him to post.

 
BTW there is nothing wrong with the post he refers.

More vid of this from different angle.

She clipped him.

I saw that she clipped him. But her wheel was turned away to the right from him. He ran in front of her car, which is against protocol. He DID NOT need to use deadly force under the circumstances, especially with so many people in the line of fire. Which is also against proper procedures.
He made himself judge, jury and executioner. But I guess according to your pals it's OK because she was a lesbian agitator. Just like it was OK for George Floyd to be killed because he used drugs.

Yeah..... If this comes to trial or goes to trial protocol will get looked at.  

 
But again.... could he see the wheel from where he was coming from?  he came across from the front.... Opposite from the wheel.  Also when a vehicle is coming at you do you look at the fucking wheels?

YOu talk about 'line of fire".   He was in front... only person in line of fire was the target he hit.   There was the other officers off to his right.  But they were not in direct line of fire.

 
Not saying shit about her sexual orientation or even why she was there at all.   Funny how you have to bring that up.    I bring up the fucking FACTS for the video.

 
1. She didn't listen to orders.
2. She hit an officer
3. Was fleeing
4. 2-3 other vehicles were "fleeing"

 
Now if you say she was there to obstruct, agitate, etc.  Well then that is a whole other can of worms.  Was she making threats to officers prior?  Was she possibly throwing snowballs (reports that some were)?  Was she impeding the duties of the officers (felony)? etc.   Lots of other things to consider..... remember there is a before that the video doesn't show.   Not saying that warranted her being shot.  But that means she was fleeing from a felony not a "traffic" stop.

 
Now you want to talk GF.... no it wasn't OK for him to be killed because he used drugs.   Drugs was one of the factors that killed him.  He had a lethal amount of Fent in him.   He whipped himself up into a tizzy that help bring him to a cardiac arrest and his breathing issues.  Watch the WHOLE VIDEO.... he was having issue in the vehicle all prior to being on the ground.    What Chauvin should have been charged with was not rendering aid and whatever degree of man slaughter that would be.    

Her last words to an officer before being shot in the face was to smile and say, "That's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at you". The reply was "open the fucking door."
Oh, and you have no clue about who was in the background behind her car when the ICE killer opened fire. There were people everywhere around the scene.  Firing a weapon in the environment was gross negligence.
So, as usual, your entire post is bullshit.

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Lawful order of an ICE agent to “get out of the car” she would be alive today.

 
AI Overview
An ICE agent did not tell Renée Good "good to get out of the car". Instead, an agent repeatedly ordered her to  
"Get out of the car" and "Get out of the f***ing car" during the fatal encounter in Minneapolis.  
The incident involved Renée Good, who was in the driver's seat of her SUV, and her wife, Rebecca Good, who was outside the car, interacting with ICE agents.  
Here are the key exchanges that occurred:
• As one agent, Jonathan Ross, walked around the vehicle filming, Renée Good spoke through her open window, saying, "That's fine, dude, I'm not mad at you".
• Rebecca Good confronted Ross, telling him, "You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy".
• Another agent then approached the driver's side of the vehicle and repeatedly commanded Renée Good to "Get out of the car".
• Rebecca Good was also heard telling her wife, "Drive, baby. Drive!" as agents tried to open the car doors.  
Renée Good then reversed her SUV slightly and began to pull away, turning the steering wheel to the right, when the agent in front of her opened fire, killing her. The characterization of the agent saying "good to get out of the car" is inaccurate; the agent's command was a forceful order to exit the vehicle.

She failed to follow an order to get out of the car so the officer had the right to shoot her in the head?
Her partner had the gall to tell Ross to "get yourself some lunch" so he had the right to shoot her in the head?

"You wanna come at us?  You wanna come at us?  I say go and get yourself some lunch, big boy.  Go ahead."

 
Her body language and comments so enraged the ICE agent that he shot Renee Good a few seconds later.  It was clearly justifiable homicide - I personally have killed three people who taunted me by saying: "Go and get yourself some lunch, 'Big' Papasan."  I was never charged in those homicides.  You shoot your mouth off, you'll get your head shot off.

teaches recruits to ignore and not overreact to verbal taunts, provocations, or intimidation from otherwise non-violent demonstrators. It's part of the job, and if they don't have the right temperament for it, they shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

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To get out of the car,  that of course does not give anyone the right to shoot her and that is not why she was shot.

After not obeying any of the lawful orders to get out of the car she was resisting arrest/detention and fled to evade arrest/detention.  In that attempt she hit the gas and the car was pointed at the agent and hit him.  

He made a split second decision. To the best of my knowledge his statement has not been made public so no one knows his reasoning or thinking.  
Fear for his life? Fear for the lives of others?
   
Did she intend to hit the agent, no one knows and no one ever will know.  

 
Also it turns out that the ICE agent’s injuries are much more severe than originally reported.  
http://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-agent-struck-renee-goods-vehicle-suffered-internal-bleeding-torso-dhs-says

 
http://nypost.com/2026/01/14/us-news/ice-agent-who-shot-renee-good-suffered-internal-bleeding-was-hospitalized-after-she-clipped-him-with-car-dhs/

I suspect that "internal bleeding"  really means bruise or contusion.  What sounds worse?   "...extent of the bleeding to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jonathan Ross was not immediately clear."

Bruise?  Internal bleeding?  MRI?  CT Scan?

That's right. This regime continues to lie to the American people.  If he had real internal bleeding he would have been admitted and prepped for surgery not released the same day.

Mr. Hungus and Mr. Jazz,

 
I'm going to be very careful on this one... As, I ended up in FB jail for 24 hours for stating my true opinions....

 
BUT, AT WORST, this guy had a contusion and possibly a cracked rib. They would have been overly cautious and admitted him if he needed ANY observation. So, I agree.

 
Kisses,  
Katie

From a side angle of the video that I've seen, the shooter had already moved away from the vehicle when the SUV moved forward and he began shooting.  Based on that view the shooter was not hit by the car and stories to the contrary are part of the cover up. That's why a full, impartial, and transparent investigation by MN law enforcement is essential.

“It was highly disrespectful of law enforcement," Trump said. "The woman and her friend were highly disrespectful of law enforcement.”
First of all, Good simply said "I'm not mad at you" to the ICE killer. How is that remotely disrespectful?
And even if it was, how does being disrespectful justify being shot to death?
Of course, if that's true it would have been OK to shoot a LOT of people on Jan. 6.
Trump desperately needs to stop digging.

"A New York Times video analysis contradicts the Trump administration’s account of the killing of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent on Wednesday in Minneapolis."
http://www.facebook.com/share/v/17i6H1vKEb/

That 3rd video seems very telling.  

The lady hit the gas with someone in front of her
 The moment you do that, its a green light to use force. No matter your opinion on this, its very very likely a court of law will see it this way as well.  

That being said, i think they should have just yanked her out of the car and locked her up for a long while for assault of a fed officer. But im not the one about to get hit by a vehicle while a chick that is acting like a tough guy is outside the ride egging me on, so its easy for me to say that.  

Bottom line, play silly games and sometimes you can end up a tragedy. Its really sad.

...about at her driver's side headlight.  He could clearly see she was turning her steering wheel to the RIGHT, which was AWAY from where he was standing.  

 
Additionally, he fired the second and third shots into her driver side window after he was no longer in danger of being hit.  There's no excuse for the second and third shots.

 
http://x.com/ScarboroughNow/status/2010155880571121835

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