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Re: Considering there are at least 3 lies in all your posts
durran421 25 reads
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We could say the same about you.....

Oh goody, more conspiracy theories. I like your type of Republican more than the ones some of my irl friends are. You actually help us Dems by acting like a yahoo.

 
But then again, I respect my friends more. See, I'm a Dem and very much support Dem candidates. But when my Republican friends talk in a sane way and make sane points, even though I might not agree with them, I respect them. And, we can still have a beer and not talk about politics where we disagree.

 
But then there are those like you. I cannot have any respect for you as long as you spread such bullshit.

why would anyone be surprised by any additional stupidity?

But there isn't a single lie in my post above and you haven't even attempted to show there is.

durran42131 reads

Some of the other ones though...... whew!! It like LIE- apalooza
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I’m guessing you’re considering the “coup” reference and the “coverup” reference as the conspiracies.

Coup is a strong word, but it’s also been used against the Republicans, so one could argue that the creator is justified using it in his video. We’ve already argued here on this forum on whether or not he was “forced out”. So “coup”? “Forced out”? “Voluntarily resigned?” The bottom line, however you characterize it, is that Biden had no alternative but to withdraw from the race.

As to “coverup”? I think it’s accurate to say that the MSM and the Democrats provided a lot of cover in regards to Biden’s decline. Long before the debate, the Hur report and the WSJ piece on Biden’s decline were roundly denounced as right wing smears against Biden. It was only after the debate that the veil was lifted and the Dems and the MSM changed their tune.  So was it a coverup? It had most of the elements of one.

As to the video overall. It’s good red meat for the Republican base, but I don’t see it as a line of attack that will persuade undecided swing voters.

You are entitled to your opinion, but remember these are your opinions. Facts are things proven beyond doubt. Your wording and tone suggest you believe there is no doubt and you are presenting something everyone should see. Nope.

 
You call it a cover up, but the truth is that even today the word on Biden's condition is subjective. He is a life long stutterer and it is something he's had to work to overcome all of his life. He automatically is working at a disadvantage with his speech. The pauses and gafes are nothing new. They were just easier to hide or control when he was younger. It's a fact that people slow down as they age. I can assure you anyone near 80 years old is not going to have the same reflective abilities as a 50 year old. But one thing aging and slowing down does is not treat all people the same. It's going to show more with someone who has other underlying conditions. For example, asthma is something that is well documented as harder to control when we are babies and when we are older. But when we are young and healther, many can control it better. Same goes for speech impetiments.

 
There is no question Biden is not as sharp as he used to be. But the extent of his condition is subjective. Some think he's worse than he is. Some think he's better than he is. Very few of us who think one way or the other are actually doctors or have any qualification to make the right call. And, keep in mind, doctors often don't always agree with each other. Why? Because there is so much more in the medical field that even the professionals are still trying to figure out.

 
Regardless of Biden's condition and whether he is fit or not to be President, what became clear is the very question of it was hurting his chances at winning. The Dems saw this unfolding and knew if they wanted to have a chance they needed to act. They surely did a deep data dive to see what the path was with Biden vs. Kamala and came to the conclusion that they had a better chance with Kamala. And you know what? They actually got that right. Kamala is already polling better than Biden.

 
I say all this as someone who refused to let go of Biden as a candidate. I wanted their unwavering support for him. And, I can now say, I was wrong. I'm glad they persuaded him to step aside. I am glad despite how difficult it was for Biden that he made the right choice. Why? Because this is not about Biden. It is not about Kamala. It is not even about Trump. It's about what they as candidates stand for and how that lines up with what we stand for. Just like I quickly got behind Kamala, most Republicans would quickly get behind the next man or woman up if Trump was not the nominee. Trump was not just chosen because everyone loves Trump. There are plenty within the Republican party that wish it was someone else. But they know Trump gives them the best chance, so they stand behind him.

 
So yes, what you posted is garbage to me.

RespectfulRobert31 reads

Biden could've stayed in. Would he have caught shit and been under enormous pressure?  Of course! But who would force POTUS to leave if he told everyone to STFU, he is staying in? No one, that's who.

…you lie to your campaign donors just to dupe them into giving you money when you know they can’t win.

 
From the link below:

 
“DNC Manager: ‘I Don’t Think Kamala Harris Would Win;' Admits to Making Empty Promises to Donors

 
“I don’t think Kamala Harris would win this year,” reveals Joyce DeCerce (@JoyceDecerce) (he/him), Compliance Manager for the Democratic National Committee (@DNC) and Kamala Harris' (@KamalaHarris) Campaign. DeCerce adds, “She doesn’t have any accomplishments to speak of,” suggesting that Harris’s lack of popularity stems from her underachievement while in office.

 
Regarding Harris’s approval amongst voters, the DNC Compliance manager states, “She's weirdly unpopular."

 
DeCerce describes his role within the DNC as “an accounting function,” explaining, “It’s kind of like where accounting and legal meet.”

 
DeCerce admits that the DNC’s engagement with donors is little more than a façade. He explains, “You just put on a performance for them, a little show, right?” implying that the DNC merely tells donors what they want to hear in order to receive donations. He further claims that the DNC’s approach is to fuel donors’ fantasies with empty promises, emphasizing, “They want their fantasy to be, you know, fed.”

 
When @OKeefeMedia reached out to Kristin Hetherington, the CFO of the DNC, for comment, she hung up the phone in frustration after questioned if the DNC tells donors "what they want to hear," and if they play to donor's "fantasies."

 
The undercover journalist who recorded Joyce DeCerce received a threatening postcard at her house featuring racial undertones in an apparent attempt to intimate her and prevent this story from being aired.”

Lovely, your go to news source is a right wing one man show on Twitter. You just believe everything your people say and never feel the need to cross check any of it, eh?

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