Oh man, Inicky, come on fella. You mean to tell us that with control of the White House, a filibuster proof Senate, and control of the House, those pesky Republicans STILL kept the Obama administration from doing things the way they wanted to? Your argument about Gitmo is ludicrous.
Show me one clip please, of Obama claiming he was going to increase our military presence in Afghanistan. He absolutely NEVER, not ONCE said he intended to increase our presence there while he was campaigning. Ever.
Yes, military tribunals are absolutely the fault of Bloomberg and Schumer. Its all their fault. Can't possibly be Obama's. Two men against the White House. Must be a great story in that. I'll split you for the movie rights.
Yes, he restored our reputation by winning a Peace Prize that he neither earned, nor deserved. And now we have the delicious irony of our Nobel Prize winning president bombing the hell out of Libya. It just cracks me the hell up.
Fiscal responsibility? Where? Where is all this stimulation? Gas prices on the rise, inflation is finally getting some attention, even though we've been seeing significant inflation for more than 2 years, over a year ago, they say the recession ended, but apparently it was a jobless recovery because unemployment is still pinned at just under 10% with no end in sight. We've "added" jobs, yet the *real* jobless rate remains around 15%. But the stimulus money built a few parks, funded some useless research, and built a few roads. yeah, it worked brilliantly alright.
Then there is the transparency thing. At least you were intellectually honest enough to cop to that one. You get brownie points for not mentioning Cheney and his closed meetings. In my humble opinion, Cheney's meetings were far more egregious than Obama's transgressions. But at least Cheney wasn't a hypocrite while playing hide and seek to take care of his buddies.
Just as the conservatives accused the liberals for wanting President G.W. Bush to fail in Iraq, and being unpatriotic for doing so, you are the same in your rejoicing in the belief that failing in Afghanistan is President Obama's doing.
Campaigned against Bush tax cuts - Extended them as Pres. Campaigned against wars in Arab nations- Expanded Afghanistan and now Libyia Would close Gitmo in a year- Not gonna happen...at all Stop Military Tribunals- Back on baby!! Preached Fiscal Responsibility- Trippled National Debt Most Transparent Administration- Shhhhh.... Restore America's Reputation- HAHAHAHAHAH!!! Healthcare- Every Labor Union and NYC wants a waiver. Ruled Unconstitutional "Seas will roll back"- OK, I'll give him that one.
I have no doubt the Dems and Libs believe he has truly earned another 4 years with a record like this.
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." —President George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
1) Yes, Obama definitely did campaign on increasing our military efforts in Afghanistan. 2) He campaigned to close Gitmo and he tried but the Congress (mainly the Republicans) actually made it legally impossible for him to do so. 3) He campaigned against military tribunals but Republican Mayor Bloomberg and Dem. Senator Schumer screamed bloody murder about having the trial in NYC and Republicans generally turned the issue into a political football. 4) Restore Americas Reputation: maybe you don't think so but the rest of the world does, as well as many Americans. 5) Fiscal responsibility: he had no choice but to stimulate the economy. If he hadn't you, me and the rest of America would be wearing barrels. You really ought to check your facts before posting this crap. Reasonable people can disagree about some of them but not points 1) through 3). As for Transparency, he's guilty as charged. See Jon Stewart last night. He really roasted Obama about that and several other things.
1) Obama talked abou the deficit and fiscal responsibility throughout the campaign. Or are you saying he ignored it??!! My bad, he accumulated 3X more debt in one year than any other Pres. did in that much time.
2) Obama is quoted as saying that regime change is a stupid reason to go for war as well as the illegality of not having Congressional approval. Whoops! And things are going swimmingly in Afghanistan unfer his "leadership".
3) What's wrong with my Breitbart link to a Daily Show link? Its all about Mr. Transparency.
Not much of a defense on your part but Obama hasn't exactly helped his case. I'm sure you will vote for him with all of his successes.
OK, sins, here it is. Less than two weeks after his inauguration. Just scroll down to the 4th paragraph. and this is just one clip. There are plenty more. Suggestion: do your homework before making such strong statements.
Obama orders brigades to Afghanistan Updated: Wednesday, February 18th, 2009 | By Angie Drobnic Holan
President Barack Obama issued an order Feb. 17, 2009, to send two additional brigades to Afghanistan.
"This increase is necessary to stabilize a deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, which has not received the strategic attention, direction and resources it urgently requires," Obama said.
He also recognized "the extraordinary strain that this deployment places on our troops and military families. I honor their service, and will give them the support they need."
Obama often said during the campaign that Afghanistan required more troops and attention than it was receiving from the Bush administration. ( Read our previous campaign coverage .) Obama said the United States "had taken our eye off the ball" by invading Iraq instead of concentrating on Afghanistan.
"Our troops have fought valiantly there, but Iraq has deprived them of the support they need — and deserve," Obama said in a speech on Aug. 1, 2007. "As a result, parts of Afghanistan are falling into the hands of the Taliban, and a mix of terrorism, drugs and corruption threatens to overwhelm the country. As president, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to reinforce our counterterrorism operations and support NATO's efforts against the Taliban."
In his Feb. 17 action, Obama said he would deploy a Marine Expeditionary Brigade during the spring of 2009 and an Army Stryker Brigade with support troops by the summer. That's two, just as he said he would. Promise Kept.
Finally, we want to note that our ruling here only covers Obama's pledge to send two brigades. We'll use Promise No. 148 to rate whether he equips them properly .
Sources:
White House Web site, Statement by the President on Afghanistan , Feb. 17, 2009
Here are the facts on the Gitmo closure issue. You guys really do need to get your facts right before you get all hot and bothered. This bill was passed with a bi-partisan majority because lots of gutless Democrats (redundant?) joined Republicans in an amendment to a Defense spending bill, which the President had to sign in order to have our armed forces funded. Even the President occasionally must bow to the will of Congress. Facts are so inconvenient sometimes...
I'm sure most of the people that voted for him thought he would become involved with a 3rd war for the purposes of regime change. Most also hoped he would bypass Congress and party in Rio as the invasion begins. And once again, Afghanistan is just so awesome now. This is totally what he was selling.
Please continue in your refusal to be confused with the facts or to actually respond to what I posted. Oops! Of course that would have meant admitting the first point in your original post was wrong! Can't do that!
No, it has to do with my original post. The anti Bush Doctrine candidate is now following it to the letter!! You don't seem to get that!! That's what it's about. Or did you feel this is where we would be after he was elected?
BTW, I bring up several things and this argument is your last stand. His failure in Afghanistan??!! HAHAHAHA!! Your momma would be proud.
No one. If you post Faux Paux News, Hannity, or Beck everyone will believe that is how fucked up we have become. We willfully suspend facts, truth and reality and resort immediately to BS sound bites or get into grade school fight; you did it, no you said it first, no you did...blah...blah.
He said he would close Gitmo and end military tribunals. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN!!! So by every definition what I am saying is true. Your excuse of "He doesn't know how" doesn't change anything.
He also added 4 trillion to the deficit than less than two years while promising to cut it in half- TRUE
He said he would restore America's reputation while they are burning his image in the Arab street and Russia, China, etc. are sniping at us. TRUE
Fuck that! The Democrats have been saying for 8 years that EVERYTHING is about Afghanistan and they were gonna get shit done. Well now you've got the keys.
PS_ I'm not celebrating anything. I would love it if we were making real progress in the region and the economy was strong, etc. I would vote for him in a second. But he has an awful record and his supporters wont acknowledge it.
Well, most right wingers are against UN and NATO. Right wingers like NATO when NATO does your bidding. Obama, Clinton and Susan Rice did masterful diplomacy regarding Libya instead of going in guns blazing and owning the whole thing. Whether you agree, like or not, there is grave crisis Libya and it is not over. The great thing is we are not in it knee deep. Oh, one more thing, Libya was not started on lies and deception like Iraq.
And now you've added more lies. If the President is blocked by Congress from doing what he wants, how is that his fault? It works only if you're a totally partisan flake, which you apparantly are. So what you're saying isn't true, but, hell, keep repeating it if it makes you feel better. Maybe by repetition you'll come to believe your own bullshit. Now you say his image is being burned in the Arab street. Where? I haven't seen any such thing, so back up your hot air. In fact, in Libya the rebels are praising him. As for Russia and China sniping at us, since when do we care? Maybe you do. But we don't run our foreign policy to please them, and just because they oppose something we did with a broad coalition does not prove your point about Obama having failed to reivive our reputation abroad. They were against the Iraq war, too. Did you care then? Hint: when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is stop digging.
at your cheering for the US to fail in Afghanistan. I expected us to ramp up there because Obama said he would during the campaign, a fact you disputed and, despite facts (remember them?) to the contrary you refuse to concede an obvious point. Re-read your original post.
You can call me whatever you like, but Breitbart is actually getting sued for being a liar. Why you're defending Mr. Cartman on an issue he's already conceded is beyond me.
"McCain likes to say that he'll follow bin Laden to the Gates of Hell - but he won't even go to the cave where he lives." This is what Obama likes to say.
Here's what I wrote that you say is hypothetical: "Who let him escape to that cave when he had him surrounded? Hint: It wasn't Obama. " In fact, when Bin Laden was trapped in a cave in Tora Bora, Bush outsourced the job of going in after him to the Afghans instead of sending in our Special Forces. As a result, Osama escaped. That's not hypothetical. Please, F_U, get your buddies snow or holey to help you here. You are in over your head.
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