Trump laid out more of his policy goals for the NY Economics club and then took questions from the members.
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Notably he intends to appoint Elon Musk to audit everything in the federal budget -- suggests it could save trillions in fraud and waste over the long term.
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Maybe Kamala can copy that idea too.   I think she wouldn't  though.  All those cushy jobs are patronage and eliminating corruption would kill the golden goose.

He babbled and babbled , and ABSOLUTELY SAID NOTHING😂😂😂😂
Here’s the deal, prop him up like it’s Weekend at Bernie’s . He’ll be better off  
Man , even for me I felt bad … it was senior abuse who ever put him out there

He wants to take us back to the days of McKinley, who as a Congressman in the 1890s was responsible for punitive tariffs. If he gets to do it he'll tank the entire economy.

Trump was asked about making child care more affordable.  Trump had no answer - he changed the subject.  He was asked again about affordable child care and he again avoided answering the question:

 

 
TAPPER:  Let’s turn to the cost of childcare, which many American families struggle to afford.
President Trump, both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child. For many families, the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent. In your second term, what would you do to make childcare more affordable?

 
TRUMP:  Just to go back. The general got fired because he was no good. And if he said that, that’s why he made it up. But we have 19 people that said I didn’t say it, and they’re very highly respected, much more so than him.

 
The other thing is, he doesn’t fire people. He never fired people. I’ve never seen him fire
anybody. I did fire a lot. I fired Comey because he was no good. I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp. They were no good. Not easy to fire people. You’d pay a price for it, but they were no good. I inherited these people. I didn’t put him there. I didn’t put Comey there. He was no good. I fired him.

 
This guy hasn’t fired anybody. He never fires. He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan – the Afghanistan horror show. The most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. He didn’t fire?

 
Did you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that’s on the border, that’s allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world? Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from mental institutions? Did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed? Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. This shouldn’t be a debate.

 
He is the worst president. He just said it about me because I said it. But look, he’s the worst president in the history of our country. He’s destroyed our country. Now, all of a sudden, he’s trying to get a little tough on the border. He come out – came out with a nothing deal, and it reduced it a little bit. A little bit, like this much. It’s insignificant.

 
He wants open borders. He wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters. And I don’t think – we just can’t let it happen. If he wins this election, our country doesn’t have a chance. Not even a chance of coming out of this rut. We probably won’t have a country left anymore. That’s how bad it is. He is the worst in history by far.

 
TAPPER:  President TRUMP, the question was about what would you do to make child care more affordable? If you want to take your minute.

 
TRUMP:  Just you understand, we have polling. We have other things that do – they rate him the worst because what he’s done is so bad. And they rate me – yes, I’ll show you. I will show you. And they rate me one of the best. OK.

 
And if I’m given another four years, I will be the best. I think I’ll be the best. Nobody’s ever created an economy like us. Nobody ever cut taxes like us. He’s the only one I know. He wants to raise your taxes by four times. He wants to raise everybody’s taxes by four times. He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire so everybody, including the two of you are going to pay four to five times. Nobody ever heard of this before.

 
All my life I’d grow up and I’d see politicians talking about cutting taxes. When we cut taxes, as I said, we did more business. Apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country. The worst president in history by far, and everybody knows it.

 
TRUMP IS A FUCKING MORON WHO DOESN'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING!!!

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...by Charlie Kirk in Mesa, AZ.  JD's brilliant answer:
"Maybe grandma and grandpa wants to help out a little more.  Or maybe there's an aunt and uncle who wants to help out a little bit more."
Great JD, but what would the Trump-Vance administration do?

 
Idiot Vance doesn't know that maty new parents may not have a living parent.  Also, many parents are moving away from their kids, or vice versa.  Only 55% of U.S. adults say they live within an hour's drive of at least some of their extended family.

 
Vance is as dumb as Trump.

Are you fucking kidding me?  

Mr “Biden’s going to mop the floor with Trump”actuall went to weekend at Bernie’s? After how long have we been gaslit about Joe’s sharp as a tack! By you looosers and the media?

Go fuck yourself HAPPY GULAG GUARD!

Jabba 🙄 when ya go on these TDS rants? The only person who listens is your nuzzle buddy icky  🤷🏻‍♂️ sorry

Again… NBC No Body Cares

Yes icky he sure can ! ! !

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People with brains.  People who actually READ what Trump and Vance said…or did not say.  

 
Others like LostSon are in a cult of personality.  It doesn’t matter that Trump and  Vance demonstrated their complete ignorance of the issues.  Trump knows that LostSon and his fellow Trumptards are so fucking stupid they’ll believe anything Trump says.  

 
In fact, LostSon described perfectly what Trump and Vance said about child care:
“Blah, blah, blah.”

LONG post. I think Trump thought he was at a campaign rally and not the Economics Club. At least he didn't mention Hannibal Lecter, sharks, or tell the snake story. (The following ~1350 words are all quoted material.)  
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Q. AS YOU ALLUDED TO, TARIFFS ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SANCTIONS AND GIVEN THAT CHINA IS OUR MAJOR TRADING PARTNER WITH OUR LARGEST TRADE IMBALANCE AND POSSIBLY OUR CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES, HOW CAN WE BETTER INSTITUTIONALIZE TRADE POLICY AND NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY TO BE COORDINATED?
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TRUMP: SO I HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH PRESIDENT XI OF CHINA, REALLY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP. NOW, LOOK, HE LIKES CHINA, I LIKE US. SO, BUT, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND FOOLISH. HE WAS MY DEAR, DEAR FRIEND. HE IS A TOUGH GUY, A FIERCE PERSON, I SAY VERY SMART. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY HE IS SMART, THE FAKE NEWS GOES CRAZY. HE SAID PRESIDENT XI IS SMART. AND I SAY HE CONTROLS 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE WITH AN IRON FIST. HE IS SMART. BUT WE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA UNTIL COVID. AND WHEN THAT CAME IN, IT WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED. WE MADE A GREAT CHINA TRADE DEAL MAYBE BETTER THAN THE USMCA AND I'D NEVER TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH COVID WITH THE WHOLE WORLD. 60 TRILLION DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, DEATHS, 70 MILLION 60 MILLION DE... NOBODY EVEN KNOWS HOW MANY DEATHS. AND IT ALL CAME OUT OF WUHAN. SO IT CHANGED MY RELATIONSHIP. BUT I THINK I WILL HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA, I HAD ONE BEFORE AND THEY RESPECTED US. BUT THEY RESPECTED US BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER THOUGHT WE WERE FOOLS. THEY USED TO THINK WE WERE FOOLS BECAUSE WE BUILT CHINA. THEY WOULD TAKE OVER $500 BILLION A YEAR AND USE IT FOR THEIR MILITARY AND OTHER THINGS AND WE GOT NOTHING OUT OF THAT, WE GOT SOME CHEAP PRODUCTS. WE GOT, YOU CAN BUY 19 PENCILS INSTEAD OF TWO. WHO THE HELL CARES? YOU CAN BUY 16 DOLLS FOR YOUR DAUGHTER INSTEAD OF TWO NICE DOLLS. AND WE GOT VERY LITTLE OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP. THEY GOT A TREMENDOUS MILITARY POWER AND THEY STILL HAVE IT TODAY. BUT I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA AND WITH A LOT OF OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING ALONG WITH TOO WELL TODAY.  
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THINGS ARE GOING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT AND I THINK WE WILL GET THEM STRAIGHTENED OUT VERY QUICKLY. VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD. YOU KNOW WE HAVE THINGS TODAY CALLED NUCLEAR WEAPONS. I REBUILT OUR WHOLE MILITARY INCLUDING OUR NUCLEAR CAPABILITY. AND SO I GOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND YOU KNOW I SAY THIS OFTEN BECAUSE I HAD AN UNCLE WHO WAS THE LONGEST-SERVING, I BELIEVE THE LONGEST SERVING -- I WAS TOLD THAT BY MIT -- BUT HE WAS THERE 39 OR I GUESS 41 YEARS -- LONGEST-SERVING PROFESSOR IN THE HISTORY OF MIT AND NUCLEAR WAS SOMETHING HE KNEW A LOT ABOUT. WE USED TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND I WOULD SAY, AND UNCLE JOHN, THERE'S NO WAY. AND HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THIS INCREDIBLE POWER THAT WAS BEING UNLEASHED POTENTIALLY. AND I'D SAY, UNCLE JOHN, YOU COULD NEVER ... AND YOU KNOW WHAT, HE WAS VERY MODEST,  BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THE DESTRUCTIVE CAPABILITY. AND THIS WORLD IS GONNA HAVE TO GET ALONG BECAUSE IF THAT IS EVER UNLEASHED -- BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY COUNTRIES THAT HAVE AT LEAST REMNANTS OF IT OR SOME OF IT. BUT PROBABLY FIVE COUNTRIES IF YOU THINK. AND KIM JONG-UN,  
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WHEN I WAS - WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE AFTER WINNING IN 2016, I SAT WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA, WHICH IS A RITUAL, AND YOU SIT AND YOU TALK. AND I SAID WHAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM? AND HE SAID NORTH KOREA IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. I DON'T THINK IT'S SOLVABLE. I SAID, HAVE YOU TRIED CALLING HIM OR TALKING TO HIM? ACTUALLY THE ANSWER WAS, YES, AND HE WASN'T RESPONDING TO. BUT I DID. AND WE WERE VERY SAFE. IT STARTED OFF A LITTLE ROCKY, IF YOU REMEMBER. "LITTLE ROCKET MAN," I CALLED HIM, AND HE CALLED ME THINGS TOO. HE'S GOT A RED BUTTON ON HIS DESK I SAID TO HAVE A BIGGER RED BUTTON AND MY RED BUTTON WORKS. [LAUGHTER] AND THEN IT STARTED GETTING A LITTLE NICER AND THEN ONE DAY I GOT A CALL THAT THEY'D LIKE TO MEET. AND IT WAS A GREAT THING, WE HAD A GREAT MEETING, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS, ACTUALLY TWO GREAT MEETINGS. SUMMITS. AND WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH HIM. NOW THEY HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIKING THIS ADMINISTRATION. THEY DON'T RESPECT THIS ADMINISTRATION AT ALL.  
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SO WE HAVE TO GET ALONG. WE HAVE TO GET ALONG. WE CAN'T HAVE WORLD WAR III. YOU ARE GOING TO END UP IN WORLD WAR III. JUST LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD RUSSIA GO IN, IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF A COMPETENT PERSON LED US. IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. HE LED THEM INTO IT. AND I AM NOT BLAMING BIDEN, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS EXACTLY THE WRONG THING. I SAID, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN INVASION BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE RHETORIC, IT WAS STUPID RHETORIC. BUT IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. NOT ONLY FOR THAT REASON, OIL WAS DOWN LOW, IT WAS ALMOST AT $100 A BARREL, SO PUTIN IS ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE, I MEAN NOTHING IT'S - IS EASY IN LIFE. BUT PUTIN AT $100 A BARREL, WAR WORKS AT $40 A BARREL. IT DIDN'T WORK AT ALL. SO WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO A INTELLIGENTLY RUN PLACE. A PLACE WHERE OTHER COUNTRIES AREN'T USING THE WORD NUCLEAR. THAT WORD WAS NEVER TALKED ABOUT DURING MY -- BECAUSE I KNEW THE POWER OF IT. AND I TALKED TO PUTIN ABOUT IT, AND I TALKED TO PRESIDENT XI ABOUT IT. I THINK WE WERE GOING TO ... DO YOU REMEMBER THAT TALK WHERE WE WERE GOING TO REDUCE NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES SUBSTANTIALLY, ALL THREE OF US? WE STARTED. WE'RE GOING TO START IT. WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE VERY SUBSTANTIALLY.  AND THEN WE HAD THE ELECTION AND AFTER THE ELECTION, THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE, FRANKLY.  
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BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. BECAUSE THE DESTRUCTIVE CAPABILITY OF NUCLEAR, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING, I SAY -- [DEEP SIGH] THE OCEAN IS GOING TO GO DOWN 100TH OF AN INCH WITHIN THE NEXT 400 YEARS. THAT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. OUR PROBLEM IS NUCLEAR WARMING AND WE BETTER BE SMART AND WE BETTER HAVE SMART PEOPLE AT THE TOP THAT KNOW HOW TO DEAL. BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL.  PUTIN CAME OUT TODAY, HE ENDORSED KAMALA. AND I DIDN'T KNOW ... WAS I SUPPOSED TO CALL HIM UP AND SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT? [LAUGHS] BUT HE ENDORSED KAMALA. I HAVE A FEELING. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T ... I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF I AM INSULTED OR HE DID ME A FAVOR. BUT WE HAVE TO GET ALONG WITH THE WORLD. WE CAN'T HAVE WAR BECAUSE THE DESTRUCTIVE CAPABILITY, YOU COULD BE THE HEAD OF THE BIGGEST BANK, WHEREEVER THE HELL JAMIE IS SITTING, YOU COULD BE THE HEAD OF THE BIGGEST BANK IN THE WORLD AND A COUPLE OF NUKES AND YOUR BANK DOESN'T MEAN A THING. YOU'VE GOT TO GET ALONG. THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT JOB. IT'S A DANGEROUS JOB, TOO. VERY DANGEROUS JOB. IF YOU LOOK STATISTICALLY, BEING PRESIDENT IS VERY DANGEROUS. [LAUGHTER] THAT THAT THROBBING FEELING I HAVE. OH, THAT THROBBING FEELING. [LAUGHTER] NOW IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS JOB AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT AND IF YOU DON'T DO IT RIGHT, BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO THE WORLD. THINGS LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Righties won’t read it.  I did the same thing and LostSon replied “blah, blah, blah.”

 
Righties don’t want to know how stupid Trump is.  They don’t care - they’re dumber than Trump.  They’re in a cult of personality so it doesn’t matter what Trump says; they will vote for him regardless.

I know. I was responding -- not replying -- to willy's post about:
"Why Trump is such a great public speaker.
You won’t get it reading a transcript. He speaks like a normal human being in a conversational style."  
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The cult is mesmerized by Trump's rambling blather. If they READ Trump's words, they might, JUST might, see what an idiot he is.  

They don’t want to find out the Emperor has no clothes. They’re happy to remain blissfully ignorant.

 
LostSon is the poster boy for “La, La, La, La, I can’t hear you!”

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And the politicians all said, “have the federal government give money for student loans!” What was the result? College tuition rates shot up way faster than inflation. And now we have colleges that are useless, don’t teach students anything, and student debt is crippling the economy.  

 
Somehow, I think there’s a lesson in that.  

 
Here’s another lesson: women are a net cost to society. Over their entire lifetimes they will collect more taxpayer dollars then they will pay into the system. You can maintain that system if women have enough male children to balance the books, but women aren’t having enough children these days.  

 
Furthermore, whenever you expand child care you expand welfare. If you replace the duties of a husband for the duties of the state you diminish the importance of fathers. And the state has no interest in teaching your children to be good upstanding citizens, much less successful.  

 
The amount of childcare spending should be zero. Instead we need to transform the economy so that it’s easier for people on the bottom of the economic ladder to climb it. We should make it easy for burger flippers to become mechanics, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, etc. We should force illegals out of these professions as they are driving down blue collar wages.

Is this really the best you can do?
Sad.
Semper Lie

toss each other's salad.

Hmmm, do you also hear what they write ?

when you write it out like this, but I watched the speech live, and it moved along nicely.  Trump interjects thoughts that are not written on the teleprompter, something Kamala can't do.  She can't get through 5 minutes of speaking without a teleprompter.  Listen on Tuesday for how she rattles off the answers she has memorized that might not fit the questions, just like she did on the shit-show of an interview last week.  

Imagine Kamala trying to go that long without a teleprompter or rehearsed and memorized answers and zingers. Looking forward to the debate.

THE QUESTION WAS: "HOW CAN ... **TRADE POLICY** AND **NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY** ... BE COORDINATED?"
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Does Trump answer the Q? No. Trump doesn't even understand the Q.
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"Xi is my dear, dear friend." Xi is really smart. Xi rules 1.4 B people with an iron fist. ...  
Covid, Covid, Covid ...
China trade ... $500 B ... 19 pencils instead of 2.  16 dolls instead of 2. We got very little out of that. (What is this about!!!????!!!)
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"WE MADE A GREAT CHINA TRADE DEAL" [A GREAT deal? Trump got slaughtered on that deal. Trump ANNOUNCED that Xi promised to increase US imports to $500B.  There was NOTHING IN WRITING. After the Trump tariffs, US imports to China PLUMMETED. US farm bankruptcies hit an all-time record. In the end, China imported around $50B, total.]
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Nuclear weapons ... Uncle John at MIT ... nuclear weapons ... "BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY COUNTRIES THAT HAVE AT LEAST REMNANTS OF IT OR SOME OF IT. BUT PROBABLY FIVE COUNTRIES IF YOU THINK. AND KIM JONG-UN, ..." [What???? Remnants of it? Some of it? "IT"?? 9 countries have nuclear weapons. SCHOOLCHILDREN know that. A candidate for POTUS should know that.]
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Policy statement: "THINGS ARE GOING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT AND I THINK WE WILL GET THEM STRAIGHTENED OUT VERY QUICKLY. VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD." That sounds like a good policy. HOW THE FUCK IS TRUMP GOING TO DO THAT? Threaten to withdraw from NATO? Give Ukraine to Putin and Taiwan to his dear, dear friend Xi?
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This is a good policy to have: "SO WE HAVE TO GET ALONG. WE HAVE TO GET ALONG. WE CAN'T HAVE WORLD WAR III." Anybody disagree?
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"BEING PRESIDENT IS VERY DANGEROUS." True! Trump being POTUS IS VERY DANGEROUS TO THE UNITED STATES AND THE REST OF THE WORLD!!  
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He got in "Uncle John", "Little Rocket Man," "Big Red Button," and some other gems but at least he didn't talk about Hannibal Lecter, electrocution or sharks, windmills causing cancer, or the story of the snake in this answer.  
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READ TRUMP'S WORDS!  It is mostly inane blather with exaggerations and lies thrown in. To MAGAs, "it moved along nicely" (!!?!!) as "Trump interjects thoughts" (?? THERE IS NO THOUGHT BEHIND HIS PRE-PACKAGED SCHTICK OF OFT-REPEATED BLATHER. "Xi! Covid! Rocket Man! Uncle John! The ocean will fall [sic] 100th of an inch ..." Did Trump THINK about the Q and give a THOUGHTFUL answer? NOOOO! He is not capable of that.

saying Trump repeats himself often when Kamala wants to be "unburdened by what has been", which is actually a true statement.  She is still trying to outrun her past before the low-information Dem voters find out the truth.

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Specifics, please. Include links.

CDL: "She can't get through 5 minutes of speaking without a teleprompter."
CDL: "Kamala has trouble filling up 15 or 20 minutes without a teleprompter even on her best day."
CKS175: "Imagine Kamala trying to go that long without a teleprompter..."
CKS175: (quoting an author): "'reading platitudes from the teleprompter' during her own public event."
LESTER: "We know Kamala is afraid.  Can't even sit for a friendly interview.  She knows she can't stop cackling...It's spooked her from being seen without a teleprompter."
WILLY: "Being a good public speaker is not an easy thing...Harris sucks at it unless she’s reading a teleprompter.:
WILLY: "...all she can do is read a teleprompter."
WILLY: "You can hide for a while, but eventually you gotta do more than read a teleprompter."
WILLY: "They’re limiting her press conferences and keeping her to the teleprompter. I think they know her stupidity getting exposed is her biggest weakness."  (willy doesn't even try to hide his RACISM by calling Harris "stupid")

 
Presidents have been using teleprompters since Eisenhower yet RACIST righties only criticize BLACK politicians for using  teleprompters to infer they are stupid.

 
Righties used to mock Obama for using a teleprompter.  They called him "Teleprompter-in-Chief" and "The Teleprompter Kid."  What's REALLY INTERESTING is that WILLY DID NOT BECOME A RACIST UNTIL HE BECAME A RIGHTY.  When he was a lefty, willy called out a righty for criticizing Obama's use of a teleprompter:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/re-the-teleprompter-in-chief-was-awol-again-an-interesting-epilogue-to-bhos-misfortune-last-week-106212?frmSearch=1#106212

 
I guess when you become a righty, you automatically become a racist...and a misogynist.

I guess every journalist who ever criticized Kamala or complained about her ultra limited press availability is a racist too, using BigPapaFlop’s logic.

Maybe someone should familiarize him with the story “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”.

“Ultra limited press availability” is not the same as calling Obama and Harris stupid because they can’t speak without a teleprompter.

But leave it to BigPapaFlop to pull the race card on every post possible! 😂

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