It ain't veiled at all. These older Milfs are very competitive
By the way this was meant as a joke. But I forgot that joking on social media can cause an out and out war!!
So I think slip off quietly.
To me, people should be judged as individuals as their group identity should mean nothing.
There are providers who will see you. It will always be like this for black people. Providers or clients. We go through the same thing.
It's interesting that you would consider something negative about her because of this comment. She DOES NOT SAY she only sees white men, she just says she loves white men. I love Asian women, but I have seen providers of all ethnicities, except one, . . . eskimo, but it's only because I don't travel to places where they can be found.
Even with that said, I have always supported a provider's right to decide who she will see, even if it seems discriminatory. I have personally encountered many young twenty-something providers that have an age cutoff of 40 or 50. It's discrimination, but you know what? I'd rather her disqualify my me if she cannot be into our session because of my age. Why would I want to see someone who doesn't want to see me? I don't take it personally, it just means I won't end up waste my money on someone who will see ANYONE because the rent's due, even if I'm too old for her. That's why I support any provider who says she won't see men of certain ethnicities. They are doing the men a favor rather than trying to be politically correct and see EVERYONE even when they know they will not have a good time. I would say you should get over it, too. Lol
Her body, her choice. Period. Full stop. Just like men get to decide who they want to see, ladies should have the same right.
Posted By: RegencyHobbyist
Re: Anything for some drama, right? Lol . . . .
Her body, her choice. Period. Full stop. Just like men get to decide who they want to see, ladies should have the same right.
It might be her body and her choice, but it’s worth noting that if prostitution is ever legalized, “No Blacks or Hispanics” ads would be illegal.
Correct. Any legal service or retail industry, even if they have the "we refuse right to serve anyone" sign, wouldn't dare to say "no AA". At best they would get bodily harmed and at worst they'd have a lawsuit that would bankrupt smaller entities.
Given that the courts have ruled that personal services enjoy wider discretion for choice of whom to transaction business with, that is not a clearly established standard.
As GaGa pointed out years ago, there is a world of difference between a provider saying "I don't want to fuck a guy who is as old as my father or grandfather, be he white, black Asian, etc." and a blatantly racist statement, such as " I won't see AA, Asian, etc., men If you don't understand the distinction, I suggest you contact GaGa and have him explain it to you. He may bitch slap you, but you really deserve it.
you obviously missed it and have a chip on your shoulder. If a provider does not want to see you for ANY reason, do you still want to see her? Does that sound like the kind of session you want? In this case, whether she's racist or not, does it matter WHY she doesn't want to see you?
It's simple, if you need to know what the reason is, you're probably not going to see her anyway because you'll think she's lying. YOU deserve the bitch-slapping for being here long enough to know who GaG is but not knowing that providers can see whoever the fuck they want, just like YOU don't have to see ladies that you don't want to see. It cuts both ways. If I told you a certain lady was racist, but you had to see her anyway, would you be okay with that. By the same token, if a lady does doesn't want to see you because of the chip on your shoulder, why should she have to because they are from a minority ethnicity. It's her body, her rules. You need to take a chill pill.
I didn't realize that GaGambler was the world's foremost authority. Step aside Irwin Corey.
People should be free to associate with whom they wish.
Lester,
Thanks for letting us know that Plessy v. Ferguson was decided appropriately. Have you renewed your KKK membership yet?
Quite a false equivalency comparing publicly funded and provided K-12 education with illegal, private P4P. But hey, whatever works for you.
"All women except black women are most drawn to white men" -- Facebook app "Are You Interested"
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"White men get more replies from almost every group." -- OkCupid
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"White women prefer white men; Asian and Latina women prefer them "even more exclusively." -- OkCupid
And from where did you get those stats?
Look at the end of each sentence.
Which is the only way I can speak, I've encountered this several times in P4P. Had a couple of ladies turn me away at the door. At a certain point I started asking ladies whether they see AA men before I'd make an appointment.
Having said all that, a woman--and anyone for that matter--can see whoever the hell they want. This isn't selling shoes or TVs or ice cream. And it's not as though I'm being discriminated against for employment or housing or health care. Its an act that by definition requires physical, sexual contact.
It's the most intimate thing a woman can do, short of giving birth. So she can employ absolutely any filter she chooses to. The why is irrelevant--it's her body.
I once was seeing a black sugar babe who didn't want to be seen in public with me. She didn't say why exactly, but of all the escorts and sugar babes I've seen, she was the first and only one who didn't want to be seen with me. It didn't bother me in the least. I do also remember when I was young and dating, reading personals where some black women didn't want to date white guys. Again it didn't bother me. They have their reasons.
You have said many times on this board that you are physically quite unattractive. Why wouldn't it be that? Why are you assuming she's racist? Maybe she just has good taste?
Two things. I am butt ugly. And I didn't say she was racist. In fact I said I don't know why she didn't want to be seen with me. Maybe it was because I am butt ugly.
Your entire post suggested she didn't want to be seen with you because you're white. Own it, fester.
That's right, one possibility is she didn't want to be seen with a white guy. That's not racist.
Since she'd go down on her knees and blow me, I think her fear of being seen with me could have been due to racism ... of other black people who would look down on her for seeing a white guy.
Maybe because she was young and not mature enough to deal with being seen with an older white butt ugly male..
But what did you have mind while out in public? Dinner? Movie? Concert ?
Just curious
Possibly. I think were getting too far off in the woods on a simple possible example of people selecting on the basis of race for whatever reason. I don't have anything more to add since I can't read the young lady's mind.
Posted By: helixir
Re: Speaking As A Black Man
Which is the only way I can speak, I've encountered this several times in P4P. Had a couple of ladies turn me away at the door. At a certain point I started asking ladies whether they see AA men before I'd make an appointment.
Having said all that, a woman--and anyone for that matter--can see whoever the hell they want. This isn't selling shoes or TVs or ice cream. And it's not as though I'm being discriminated against for employment or housing or health care. Its an act that by definition requires physical, sexual contact.
It's the most intimate thing a woman can do, short of giving birth. So she can employ absolutely any filter she chooses to. The why is irrelevant--it's her body.
I've had the same "turn away at the door" experience and I, too, started asking ladies if they see AA men before booking an appointment. Recently, I've found a number of them don't respond to my inquiry about this at all. In those cases, I don't bother reaching out again. It's a bit of a 'catch-22' in that some ladies want your first contact to include all of the screening and requested appt info, yet their ad or site doesn't mention whether or not they have preferences. I would prefer not sending my screening info, if they prefer not to see AA men, so I'll send a message asking a few basic and discreet questions, one of them being if they have any race preferences. Then, it's mostly "crickets" in response. lol
At first, I wondered "why" and over the years, I've heard a number of possible reasons. So many that I've given up on trying to figure out "why" and just accept it as their preference.
On a side note, I had an interesting experience with a lady many moon ago. I was a "regular" and saw her every weekend, like clockwork. Sometimes, I would see her Saturday *and* Sunday. We always got along very well together and didn't have any issues. That is until she was "comfortable" enough around me to tell me I reminded her of an extended family member in that, like him, she saw me as a "white n****r". I was floored. At the time, I didn't quite know how to respond. Given the fact I was a regular, it never dawned on my she could or would be racist or have racist views. Life lesson learned. lol
Shortly after that, I confronted her about her comment and didn't have *any* interest in trying to "fix it". I wasn't looking for a discount or anything "work" related at all. I mostly wanted her to listen to how her comment offended me and she wasn't interested. I never saw her again, after that phone call.
In this case (this thread), looking at the ad posted above, I don't know why she would post her preference for white guys so prominently like that. I don't think that's necessarily offensive or anything, just something unexpected. Her ad copy states she doesn't see Black or Latin men, which is more of what I would expect to see.
Anyway, great post helixir! 
just like you do. They understand the difference between discrimination in something that should be available to everyone, and a personal preference by people in private. Like my friends, you have obviously learned to not take it personally and just move on to the next name on our list. It's the fake open-minded white people that think exercising a preference in a voluntary activity is racist.
Generally inexperienced providers so NO this or NO that. Do not waste your money seeing such a provider. The experience will be bad in every way ( limited service, high price and bad attitude )..
I had wondered about that, having seen this on a good number of ads. Personally, I think it goes without saying, or should, that this is ultimately up to the provider. You can legislate equal access and opportunity to just about anything. But, you can’t legislate a physical, cultural, or aesthetic preference. Lots of guys like Asian girls, fine. They limit themselves to that group. Lots of guys like Latina women, fine, plenty to choose from. You can find guys who prefer some kind of girl or other, to the exclusion of others. Should they be required by law to hire equal percentages of all ethnic groups? You wanna legislate that? Because that is exactly where we’re headed. In the religion of “equity”. OMG, I HATE hearing that word be abused so. Idk how many providers have ghosted me or no show, no phoned me trying to be seen in the mornings. It’s a large number. Just freekin’ be honest, and don’t tell me ok, and decide to sleep in without telling me. Honesty in advertising. Like photoshopped pictures from many years/pounds ago. Would you prefer to be turned away at the door, because of your race? Or would you prefer to know not to bother wasting your time? And hire someone who will appreciate you. Granted the optics are bad, but if you think about it, it’s as ok as any other personal preference.
Queen... racial and gender biases are social constructs true, but that also makes them real world realities. They are both deeply woven into the society we live in. Heck, slavery was legal just 160 years ago and women were only given the right to vote 123 years ago. Given that and the intimate nature of providing, it's actually a net positive for someone to know in advance that a provider isn't right for them. They'd be wasting their time and hard earned money on an unsatisfactory, but expensive, experience. It may ruffle some feathers, but that's the bottom line. The value prop for TER is what? Reviews. Hobbyist read those reviews to determine if a provider is a good fit for them. So, a provider saying "I don't want you as a client", is just adding to that vital information. Perhaps, one day we'll start seeing ads with even more specificity. For example "sorry, but I don't see men over 300 pounds". Or, "sorry, but no men over 65.". There is some irony in all of this though. And that's this; Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy were all white. Bundy was even good looking, articulate and charming. Moral? We should all dig a little deeper and be careful about judging books by their covers. That's utopian though and unlikely to happen at scale. Just my 2 cents.
Some won't see guys under 30 or over 60. Some K-Girls won't see Korean men since they're afraid it could end up being someone who knows them from the Korean community and might out them.
And so on.
It's a bummer. There have been some ladies that I have reached out to after reading some of their reviews that have declined to see me. At this point it's not a big deal, I just move on. I do make it a point to ask if they see black men once I make contact with those who do not state that in their ad. I would guess that said provider referenced in your post has received backlash for her hinted exclusive preferences in the past, so she posts that she "loves white guys, get over it" as her defense mechanism.
I don't know what the problem is. I personally refuse to see anyone who is not a body double for ET. 
Sure it limits the number of people who qualify, but hey, I can charge a premium because I specialize! If you know your clientele, you know your clientele.
And the finger that’s “powered”, maybe there’s more to it than a light, eh? 😉
Someone call the AACP and get The Reverend JJ on this stat.
I have seen providers who post no AA, when I reach out to them anyway, once I tell them my age they agree to see me because they feel like I’m not a pimp or trying to get something for nothing, also this is my opinion, I feel like providers who post I love white guys is because they feel like they will get a bigger tip or maybe more, I had this one provider tell me that a client have given her expensive gifts, including a high dollar car, I assume it was a white guy, but who knows could have been some rich black guy, I should have asked, one last thing, just because a provider post I love white guys doesn’t mean she won’t see guys of other races.
...are AA themselves. Also, I'm not sure if I've ever seen a "I love white guys" in a white gal's ad, it's always a provider of color. Both are quite prevalent in the lower end ad platforms and rarely seen on platforms such as TER.
I love Asian women. My homie loves PAWGS. I prefer Asian and Black and Latina over white and I am white myself. But I like pawgs too. Lol.
Some black providers love white men. Some white providers love black men. Size queens generally love black men.
Like where is your point of weirdness? That she said get over it on the ad? Ok yeah it seems a bit unusual, but nothing out of the ordinary....could be her legit preference or could be her ad tactic... or it can be both.
Why do you care?
