President Obama is the first 2-term president to get a 7 year term, whereas all others were 8 years....President Reagan had a Supreme Court confirmation in 1988, his eight year (Anthony Kennedy)...
Could you imagine a reversal....President Romney (who won the 2012 election) nominated a replacement for the recently retired Ruth Ginsburg in March 2016...But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says F-you this is an election year....The next POTUS will make this appointment.....Right wingers would have engaged in an armed insurrection, because nobody, and I mean nobody steals a Supreme Court nominee from Republicans..... There are countless reasons to fear a Trump presidency but #1 would have to be the Supreme Court....His first nominee, which he stole from President Obama after winning the election where he lost the popular vote, will probably make Scalia look like a moderate..... Harvard Law Professor Randall Kennedy wrote back in 2011 that Ginsburg & Breyer should retire so President Obama, with a Democratic led senate, could appoint 2 young progressives in their place.....They disagreed....Now, for the sake of 1st amendment rights, abortion rights, voting rights, civil rights & well, basically the survival of civilization itself, may Justices Ginsburg and Breyer remain on the court thru 2020, perhaps longer...That's the sign of group ethics. Play by the rules and accomplish your ends in such a way that both the accomplishments and you are above disgrace or criticism. It used to be the ideal of all Americans regardless of party, but now it's important that at least half of us cherish such ideals.
...the DNC which screwed over Bernie? Do you see ANY outrage by libs here over that?
Liberals should be the LAST people on earth right now talking about ethics as your party is corrupt to its core and yet you point your finger at the opposition.
INCREDIBLE!
lots of liberal outrage around the country. They think the results "prove" he would have beaten Trump. I'm not so sure. Hillary was pretty easy on him and the Republican oppo would have spent plenty of time smearing him as a died-in-the-wool Socialist while the alt-right made sure all the rednecks knew he was a Jew. The day a nearly 80-year-old Socialist Jew becomes our President is not in sight.
And you are also wrong to refer to me as a "Lib." But that conversation never gets through to conservatives. Everything is binary.
But the outrage you refer to might, might not be felt. It's a feeling. Never repress your feelings. You can feel whatever you want without fear of judgment. Only actions are subject to the judgment of another or of society. Even if you feel that you could steal from your business partner, it doesn't matter. Only if you actually embezzle the money, or whatever form the theft takes. So please constrain yourself from the issue of how people feel and restrict your comments to addressing what actions people take.
The rest is very complicated.
So... Burma Shave.
And I can point out the blatant hypocrisy how Dems talk about "fairness" all day long in PUBLIC, but don't practice it in private. ![]()
I can't think of a way to have made it any less fair, and I am sure it explains a lot of Bernie Bots staying home, they knew their guy got fucked. If Trump's claims of a "rigged system" were ever going to find a sympathetic ear, it was going to be from the millions of people who knew their own vote was stolen from them by that very same corrupt system.
A Trump appointment will, most likely, return the court to a 4-4 tie with a non-ideologue justice in Kennedy being the swing vote. Seems pretty fair to me, representing the split down the middle nationally.
Nothing was "stolen." A lame duck president was constitutionally stopped from making an appointment to the bench.
Please stop blaming Republicans and point your finger directly at what was quite possible the WORST presidential candidate is U.S. history in Hillary Clinton. Had she not been so stupid, so corrupt and so devious, she would be prez elect now.
An will the incessant whining EVER end about the popular vote? If there were different rules, the Republicans would have campaigned differently.
YOU LOST. Elections have consequences.
Get over it and man up.
They thought it was terribly arrogant of him and never forgot it, using it to justify their "just say no" approach to dealing with him. And he had a supermajority in the Senate. It's what winners say to losers. But like then and now, the worm always turns. The pendulum always swings. So it might be a good idea to dial back on the gloating.
You may have heard, I was not, and am not the biggest Trump fan in the world.
But that won't stop me from pointing out libs here who are unhinged by the results of last Tuesday.
My point is simple: before you point fingers at others, clean up the shit in your own house.
There is MORE than enough there to keep Dems busy. ![]()
Burning your own neighborhood down because the "wrong" guy got elected takes whining to a whole new level. I find it hilarious and as long as these losers don't try to burn my neighborhood down I can simply sit back and LMAO.
The good news is, these protestors of today are just like the Occupy Wall Street crowd, they are simply too lazy to stick it out for the long haul and none of them are going to miss out on a single episode of the Khardashian's to go out and protest, or even vote for that matter. lmao
Unless they live in Trump Tower or in a large bank, or on a city bus. They may be idiots but they are not so stupid as to burn down the shitty neighborhood where they live. After dwelling in refrigerator boxes during "Occupy Wall Street," they are at least smart enough to know they don't want to do that again.
but that didn't stop them from enjoying their café lattes at Starbucks on Mommy and Daddies credit card while living in the park. and remember what happened after the first cold snap? That signaled the end of Occupy Wall St. They just don't make protestors like they used to. lol
Flunk college when they become protestors?
Jokes on them because they still owe the bank for their government funded loan.
Fools like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mike Zuckerberg, and yours truly.
I don't know about the three billionaires I mentioned, but I never had any student loans to begin with.
Speaking of dropouts, how has dropping out of junior high school affected YOUR life?
I'm talking about wasting time protesting, instead of learning.
Or dropping out to spend time protesting.
Granted I dropped out in high school before completing 9th grade. I'm probably more successful than I would have been had I stayed in school.
He's a major executive![]()
Are you trying to take FattieGirl's place with the stupid memes? I thought you'd given them up. Guess not. What can we do to get him back to make both of us look better?
There is MORE than enough there to keep cops busy.
Now that the election is over, it's time to get back to the really important issues, right Jack?
BLM, and their weak kneed, politically correct leader, HRC, lost.
Being anti-first responder is never a good idea. ![]()
Having said that, I don't think most people care about the Supreme Court.
First, The present Senate has stolen nothing. Everything they've done has been constitutional.
Second, Associate Justice Scalia died suddenly in February 2016, after the Presidential election cycle had already begun, after the Iowa Caucus and the New Hampshire primary.
Third, the Justice that Kennedy replaced (Lewis Powell) announced his retirement in June of 1987, more than 6 months before the 1988 election season began.
Fourth, Reagan nominated someone before Kennedy. Early in July of 1987 Reagan nominated someone called Robert Bork. I bet some people here don't even know who he was, RIP, but I bet you do.
Fifth, the Senate, controlled by the Democrats with future VP Biden at the helm of the Judiciary committee so vigorously blocked Judge Bork that a verb was created. A verb called getting "Borked" became really famous, probably until it was unseated by getting a "Lewinsky." Reagan ended up withdrawing the nomination after the Senate voted him down so in that regard he did get a vote although it was just a formality. The scurrilous "Borking" had him doomed from the beginning.
Sixth, Kennedy was nominated in November of 1987, still well before the election began and he was confirmed (as you so graciously volunteered) in February of 1988.
Seventh, Getting "Borked" by Biden etal. has had lasting effects on the Senate. Repercussions that are still felt today.
Eighth, What Jack said. Reagan was replacing a conservative Justice Powell who had been placed on the Court by Nixon.
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Thanks for inserting some factuality into this liberal, "the sky is falling" hysteria. Not in my long lifetime have I seen such whining and overt temper tantrum throwing after an election that was won fair and square (despite overwhelming main stream media bias for HRC). Not even after Mayor Daly of Chicago truly stole the election for JFK by inserting thousands of votes from verified dead people to swing the Illinois vote away from Nixon at the last moment. Didn't see anyone taking to the streets over that.
...are needed under cloture rules to stop a filibuster by the Dems so that the nomination could go to the floor for a vote. Theoretically, the Dems could stop a vote on a Supreme Court nominee for four years (unless the GOP gets a super-majority in two years). Barring a nuclear option by the GOP, I trust you will still be calmly saying: "Everything (the Dems) have done has been constitutional."
I have no doubt the GOP will be whining just like the Dems and Harry Reid whined when they were in charge, and there is no arguing the Dems were whiny little bitches when they couldn't get out of their own way when they controlled the White House and BOTH houses of Congress.
That said, I expect the GOP to be no less feckless now that it's their turn. Perhaps even more so as there is a much bigger split between the various factions of the GOP than there ever was between the Dems
I kind of doubt Trump is going to get a lot done, but at least of the things he "might" get done, I doubt much of it will be pushing through socially conservative legislation like revisiting Gay Marriage like a "real" conservative would have done.
and yes, it would serve the GOP right if the Dems refuse to sign off on ANY nominees Trump presents for SCOTUS. I think the Dems should hold firm until both sides come together and agree about the "Biden rule" where it comes to SCOTUS nominees and at what point the POTUS cedes the right to nominate a successor. I'll get back to you in a couple of decades when they finally come to some sort of agreement. lol
If the Dems filibuster a Supreme Court nominee the Republicans will vote to get rid of the filibuster and permit a nominee's name to be brought to the floor by simple majority. The Dems will scream bloody murder and the Reps will be sanctimonious hypocrites about it but it will happen. And it's an archaic rule that, like the Electoral College, needs to go. The difference is no Constitutional Amendment is needed to do it.
Remember, a couple of years ago the Dems voted out the filibuster for certain nominations while the Republicans peed their pants.
and all career politicians realize the pendulum swings back and forth which is why the establishment were dead set against both Sanders and Trump, as neither of them wanted to "play by the rules"
Each side knows whatever they do, the other side will do back to them when the tide turns. It's the reason no POTUS ever pursues criminal charges against his predecessor and the reason that it's unlikely the GOP will eliminate the filibuster knowing full well they will be the minority party again before you know it.
Just remember that although the GOP does still control the Senate, they are hardly a united group.
But Congress is made up mainly of career politicians who know full well how quickly public sentiment and their careers can change.
I hope you remind me of this conversation when they decide to abandon the nuclear option as well.
I don't see anybody reminding me of the many conversations we have had about Trump over the last year or so.
Dems set the precedent and the R's can get political cover by saying so.
I was in high school at the time, but i remember Bork very well...Yes he was nominated in July 1987, the senate takes its summer recess from early Aug til after Labor Day....He had his hearing and floor vote by mid Oct....So it was a timely and fair hearing.....Merrick Garland hasn't even had a SJC hearing let alone a committee and final floor vote...
And remember, Bork's final vote was 58-42 against, with SIX Republicans voting against him.....The prior year, Scalia was confirmed 98-0, so that shows how far out of mainstream Bork was....
And i know you appreciate those facts....No gratitude required..
The remainder of my additional facts show how you are entirely incorrect when stating Bork received a fair hearing. Edward Kennedy and Biden announced well ahead of the hearing that there was no way Bork would go anywhere. To that end they tried to sling as much mud as they could, even going so far as to pay someone to turn over his library records and even published a list of movies Bork had rented.
As far as the 6 Republicans are concerned, they knew their vote for confirmation was pointless as the Democrats could block without their help. They were therefore free to pander to their liberal constituents (except Warner from VA) with no real penalty. Two eventually became Democrats when it better served their purpose. Also two Democrats voted with the Republicans.