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QueenBia See my TER Reviews 280 reads
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1 / 10

I found this article interesting because it states they had unprotected sex & she spanked him with a magazine. 😏

inicky46 61 Reviews 39 reads
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2 / 10

If you'd been following this case you'd know Stormy's allegations about the details of the tryst were revealed quite some time ago.

cks175 51 Reviews 33 reads
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3 / 10

In earlier recounts, she told interviewers it was a very consensual encounter and that she was an eager participant. On the stand, she testified she was scared and implied it wasn’t really a consensual encounter. She committed perjury and her testimony should be thrown out on appeal.

impposter 49 Reviews 56 reads
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4 / 10

A few key points to discuss:
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(1) Whether or not there was an actual Trump - Stormy encounter was not even relevant to this case.  It was introduced by Blanche in his opening statement, otherwise the Prosecution probably would not have called Stormy AT ALL. Whether, in Stormy's opinion, the encounter was enthusiastically consensual, nervously consensual, reluctantly consensual or some other form consensual is irrelevant to this case. Whether there was a condom or no condom, penetration by 1" or by 5", cream pie, coitus interruptus, or no pop shot at all is irrelevant to this case.  The relevant issue was that Trump and others conspired to suppress a STORY about Trump having sex with a pornstar at Lake Tahoe in 2006 while his wife and infant son were back in NY.  
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(2) Stormy's accounts in public and UNDER OATH may appear to differ to some (e.g., cks). To others, it's a matter of degree brought out under intense questioning. Consensual: enthusiastic? nervous? reluctant? sickening? other? ... they are all some form of "consensual." Stormy NEVER raised any allegation of coercion.  
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(3) TRUMP'S PUBLIC ACCOUNTS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, but mostly hover around a complete denial that the meeting in his hotel room ever took place at all. Every day or several times per day Trump is sure to say some form of 'It was a fake meeting. It never took place. I took a picture on the golf course, that's all.' His warped thinking seems to be, "If there was no meeting how can there be falsified business records???"  
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TRUMP, the coward, HAS NEVER TESTIFIED **UNDER OATH** THAT THE MEETING NEVER TOOK PLACE. Of course, there are text messages and emails and statements that fully support Stormy's story. I have never seen any statement from Trump's body guard, Keith Schiller, in public OR under oath, regarding Stormy's explanation that he was the go-between for Trump (and she had Schiller's phone number in her Contacts list as "Keith Trump" so she know he was Keith [Schiller,] Trump['s body guard.] Trump could have called Schiller as a witness for the defense but did not do so. (Probably because Schiller, UNDER OATH, would have had to corroborate Stormy's story, NOT Trump's denial.)
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Trump has denied every other allegation of infidelity and unwanted sexual behavior made by many other women. Trump has DENIED his relationship with McDougal. Trump has denied fondling a women sitting next to him in first class on some jet flight. Trump has denied knowing Jean Carroll and claimed that she was not his type, despite confusing her with his own wife Marla Maples. And several others. ... He has not yet denied walking into the dressing rooms of his beauty pageants in order to ogle the nekkid women and teen girls. He BRAGGED about it, on tape, on the Howard Stern show and in other forums. What will he say now (2024)? "Fake news! Not my voice! AI!" Of course, numerous pageant contestants have already told their stories about the creepy old man who came into the dressing rooms while they were changing their clothes.  
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Cks: A simple Yes or No, if you can. Do you think that Trump had a private encounter with Stormy in his hotel room at Lake Tahoe in 2006? Y or N? Do you believe Trump's denials? Y or N? Thank you.

Posted By: cks175
Re: Her Earlier Descriptions Didn’t Line Up With Her Sworn Testimony  
In earlier recounts, she told interviewers it was a very consensual encounter and that she was an eager participant. On the stand, she testified she was scared and implied it wasn’t really a consensual encounter. She committed perjury and her testimony should be thrown out on appeal.

cks175 51 Reviews 39 reads
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5 / 10

Cks: A simple Yes or No, if you can. Do you think that Trump had a private encounter with Stormy in his hotel room at Lake Tahoe in 2006? Y or N? Do you believe Trump's denials? Y or N? Thank you
Yes, I think Trump had a private encounter with Stormy. No, I don’t believe his denials.

There’s a caveat though. After seeing Stormy lie under oath, I do believe a reasonable person would believe she might be lying about the whole thing.

Now, a simple request for you (if you can). In 100 words or less, explain what relevance the truth of the tryst has on the charges filed by Bragg against Trump?

LostSon 43 Reviews 38 reads
posted
6 / 10

Posted By: impposter
Re: Her Earlier Descriptions Didn’t Line Up With Her Sworn Testimony  
A few key points to discuss:  
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 (1) Whether or not there was an actual Trump - Stormy encounter was not even relevant to this case.  It was introduced by Blanche in his opening statement, otherwise the Prosecution probably would not have called Stormy AT ALL. Whether, in Stormy's opinion, the encounter was enthusiastically consensual, nervously consensual, reluctantly consensual or some other form consensual is irrelevant to this case. Whether there was a condom or no condom, penetration by 1" or by 5", cream pie, coitus interruptus, or no pop shot at all is irrelevant to this case.  The relevant issue was that Trump and others conspired to suppress a STORY about Trump having sex with a pornstar at Lake Tahoe in 2006 while his wife and infant son were back in NY.  
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 (2) Stormy's accounts in public and UNDER OATH may appear to differ to some (e.g., cks). To others, it's a matter of degree brought out under intense questioning. Consensual: enthusiastic? nervous? reluctant? sickening? other? ... they are all some form of "consensual." Stormy NEVER raised any allegation of coercion.    
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 (3) TRUMP'S PUBLIC ACCOUNTS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, but mostly hover around a complete denial that the meeting in his hotel room ever took place at all. Every day or several times per day Trump is sure to say some form of 'It was a fake meeting. It never took place. I took a picture on the golf course, that's all.' His warped thinking seems to be, "If there was no meeting how can there be falsified business records???"  
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 TRUMP, the coward, HAS NEVER TESTIFIED **UNDER OATH** THAT THE MEETING NEVER TOOK PLACE. Of course, there are text messages and emails and statements that fully support Stormy's story. I have never seen any statement from Trump's body guard, Keith Schiller, in public OR under oath, regarding Stormy's explanation that he was the go-between for Trump (and she had Schiller's phone number in her Contacts list as "Keith Trump" so she know he was Keith [Schiller,] Trump['s body guard.] Trump could have called Schiller as a witness for the defense but did not do so. (Probably because Schiller, UNDER OATH, would have had to corroborate Stormy's story, NOT Trump's denial.)  
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 Trump has denied every other allegation of infidelity and unwanted sexual behavior made by many other women. Trump has DENIED his relationship with McDougal. Trump has denied fondling a women sitting next to him in first class on some jet flight. Trump has denied knowing Jean Carroll and claimed that she was not his type, despite confusing her with his own wife Marla Maples. And several others. ... He has not yet denied walking into the dressing rooms of his beauty pageants in order to ogle the nekkid women and teen girls. He BRAGGED about it, on tape, on the Howard Stern show and in other forums. What will he say now (2024)? "Fake news! Not my voice! AI!" Of course, numerous pageant contestants have already told their stories about the creepy old man who came into the dressing rooms while they were changing their clothes.  
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 Cks: A simple Yes or No, if you can. Do you think that Trump had a private encounter with Stormy in his hotel room at Lake Tahoe in 2006? Y or N? Do you believe Trump's denials? Y or N? Thank you.

Posted By: cks175
Re: Her Earlier Descriptions Didn’t Line Up With Her Sworn Testimony  
 In earlier recounts, she told interviewers it was a very consensual encounter and that she was an eager participant. On the stand, she testified she was scared and implied it wasn’t really a consensual encounter. She committed perjury and her testimony should be thrown out on appeal.

 

Ohhhh where to start…

How bout this?  

Fuck all of this! Fuck wether Trump banged her or not! Fuck all this quibbling about how the payment was made and who knew what when and how! Fuck your gotcha question imp!  

Fuck all of it!!

The entrie situation comes down to Stormy Daniels got paid to keep her MOUTH SHUT!!! And then when she’d blown through the 130 large she decided to run her mouth in order to make more money! You see Stormy is a Horse nut and owning horses and doing dressage… fuccck! a 40 foot sail boat and a Coke addicted stripper as a girlfriend would be cheaper.

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First rule of fight club is you don’t talk about fight club!  

If any provider on here threatened to tell about an encounter to ANYONE (except Of Course an assault on said provider, that’s the one exception) but the rest? Oh FUCK NO! IT STAYS QUIET ! ! ! Or at least it’s supposed to!

So tell me imp? Your fine with this rule being broken Becuse it’s Trump? Am I reading your typically long winded post right?  

Seriously? Let’s just say a provider your fucking suddenly begins trying to extort you for money to keep your trysts quiet… how would you deal? Pay her off and then be fine when she went public?

-- Modified on 6/1/2024 8:02:50 PM

impposter 49 Reviews 48 reads
posted
7 / 10

My word count: ~90. Since no one will actually look up the docs, I include ~250 of Blanche's words from his Opening Statement.  The Trump - Stormy tryst was irrelevant to the charges, as filed. HOWEVER, in his Opening Statement, Blanche told the jury:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/01/nyregion/trump-hush-money-trial-transcript-april-22.html
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Page 896: "... Michael Cohen paying Stormy Daniels or Stephanie Clifford $130,000 in exchange for her agreeing to not publicly spread *****false claims***** about President Trump is not illegal. ..."
Page 897: "... I expect that you will learn that when Ms. Daniels threatened to go public with her *****false claim of a sexual encounter***** with President Trump back in 2008 [sic] , that it was, as the People just said, very close to the election. And it was almost an attempt by Ms. Clifford/Ms . Daniels to ***extort*** President Trump . ..."
Page 905: "... I expect Ms. Clifford/Stormy Daniels will testify. She is, similarly, extremely biased against President Trump. You will hear that he met her several years ago, in 2006. I may have said 2008 earlier. In 2006 , some 18 years ago. ..." [And more stuff impugning Stormy that would need to be refuted by her own SWORN testimony.]
Page 906: "... What I mean by that is, I expect you will learn that Ms. Daniels doesn't have any idea. She doesn't know anything about the charged 34 counts in this case . She has no idea what Michael Cohen wrote on the invoice. She has no idea how it was booked at Trump Tower. And she has no idea about the checks that are also charged in this indictment. So , her testimony, while salacious, does not matter. ..."
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Upon Blanche claiming, as Trump's mouthpiece, that Stormy is lying about an encounter with Trump, the Prosecution felt that they had to let her testify. Stormy KILLED IT on the cross, making Necheles look like an idiot.

Posted By: cks175
Re: Didn’t Line Up With Her Sworn Testimony (A Simple Answer, Then A Question For Imp)
Cks: A simple Yes or No, if you can. Do you think that Trump had a private encounter with Stormy in his hotel room at Lake Tahoe in 2006? Y or N? Do you believe Trump's denials? Y or N? Thank you
Yes, I think Trump had a private encounter with Stormy. No, I don’t believe his denials.  
   
 There’s a caveat though. After seeing Stormy lie under oath, I do believe a reasonable person would believe she might be lying about the whole thing.  
   
 Now, a simple request for you (if you can). In 100 words or less, explain what relevance the truth of the tryst has on the charges filed by Bragg against Trump?

impposter 49 Reviews 60 reads
posted
8 / 10

" Ohhhh where to start… " - How about with the facts?
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"The entrie [sic] situation comes down to Stormy Daniels got paid to keep her MOUTH SHUT!!!" -- And she did keep her mouth shut!!
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"And then when she’d blown through the 130 large [after lawyer's fees, she only received  around $95,000 of the $130,000; and she had to pay taxes on the $95k) she decided to run her mouth in order to make more money!" -- FALSE! Another Trumpian lie!
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The sex tryst occurred in 2006.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels–Donald_Trump_scandal#Daniels_considered_going_public_in_2011
"In 2011, as Trump began exploring a potential presidential bid, Daniels considered selling the story to the celebrity magazine Life & Style for $15,000. As part of the negotiation, Daniels was interviewed and the magazine asked the Trump Organization for comment. ..." In other words, the story and other limited interviews were out there in 2011.  
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"... On October 8, 2016, Pecker allegedly learned that Daniels was trying to sell the story of her alleged 2006 affair with Trump. ..." Stormy had been talking to multiple outlets, not just AMI.  
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Then, the NDA with Trump in Oct 2016 AND STORMY SAID NOTHING!!! She even lied to reporters about the NDA and the affair.
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http://archive.ph/20180114185600/https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence-1515787678
Trump Lawyer Arranged $130,000 Payment for Adult-Film Star’s Silence
Agreement just before election required woman to keep quiet about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump in 2006, people familiar with the matter say.
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"“These are old, recycled reports, which were published and strongly denied prior to the election,” a White House official said, responding to the allegation of a sexual encounter involving Mr. Trump and Ms. Clifford. The official declined to respond to questions about an agreement with Ms. Clifford. It isn’t known whether Mr. Trump was aware of any agreement or payment involving her. In a statement, Mr. Cohen didn’t address the $130,000 payment but said of the alleged sexual encounter that “President Trump once again vehemently denies any such occurrence as has Ms. Daniels.” ..."
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"The Journal previously reported that Ms. Clifford, 38 years old, had been in talks with ABC’s “Good Morning America” in the fall of 2016 about an appearance to discuss Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the matter.  ..."
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"Another adult-film star, Jessica Drake, later alleged in an October 2016 news conference that Mr. Trump kissed her and two other women without permission in a hotel suite after the same 2006 golf event.
“I did not sign [a nondisclosure agreement], nor have I received any money for coming forward,” Ms. Drake said this week in an emailed statement. “I spoke out because it was the right thing to do.”
A White House official responded to questions about Ms. Drake by referring to a previous statement by the Trump campaign, which called her account “totally false and ridiculous.”  ..."
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So, you see, in 2018, the WSJ learned about the payments. Remember Trump's own FEDERAL DISCLOSURE FORMS that referred to a large reimbursement to Cohen? Do you think the WSJ was looking into things? YES, THEY WERE and they found sources, including sources at other news outlets. After the story came out in in the WSJ in 2018 [which is AFTER the election and when Trump was already POTUS], do you remember when Trump was interviewed on Air Force One? "Did you know about the payments to Stormy?" "No, I didn't. You'll have to ask my atty (Cohen) about that." And Giuliani (or was it Tacopina?) soon claimed that Trump had to lie to the reporters because of the NDA. Bizzarro World!!! It was Trump's own NDA with Stormy that bound HER, NOT HIM.
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Anyway, STORMY SAID NOTHING UNTIL __AFTER__ the WSJ let Trump's shit hit the turbofan.  
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STOP GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM THE MAGA TRUMP GRIFT MACHINE. He is telling you and everyone lies and you slurp them up without a question or a thought. Instead of coming here (TER P&R) repeating the lies, how about asking for help to find out more information about Trump's claims and THEN make up your mind. Then, maybe, you'll be able to escape the MAGA cult.

Posted By: LostSon
Re: Her Earlier Descriptions Didn’t Line Up With Her Sworn Testimony  
Posted By: impposter
Re: Her Earlier Descriptions Didn’t Line Up With Her Sworn Testimony  
 A few key points to discuss:  
  .  
  (1) Whether or not there was an actual Trump - Stormy encounter was not even relevant to this case. ...
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  (2) Stormy's accounts in public and UNDER OATH may appear to differ to some (e.g., cks). To others, it's a matter of degree brought out under intense questioning. Consensual: enthusiastic? nervous? reluctant? sickening? other? ... they are all some form of "consensual." Stormy NEVER raised any allegation of coercion.    
  .  
  (3) TRUMP'S PUBLIC ACCOUNTS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, but mostly hover around a complete denial that the meeting in his hotel room ever took place at all. ...
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  TRUMP, the coward, HAS NEVER TESTIFIED **UNDER OATH** ...  
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  Trump has denied every other allegation of infidelity and unwanted sexual behavior made by many other women. ...
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  Cks: A simple Yes or No, if you can. Do you think that Trump had a private encounter with Stormy in his hotel room at Lake Tahoe in 2006? Y or N? Do you believe Trump's denials? Y or N? Thank you.  
   
 
Posted By: cks175
Re: Her Earlier Descriptions Didn’t Line Up With Her Sworn Testimony    
  In earlier recounts, she told interviewers it was a very consensual encounter and that she was an eager participant. On the stand, she testified she was scared and implied it wasn’t really a consensual encounter. She committed perjury and her testimony should be thrown out on appeal.
 
 
 
 Ohhhh where to start…  
   
 How bout this?  
   
 Fuck all of this! Fuck wether Trump banged her or not! Fuck all this quibbling about how the payment was made and who knew what when and how! Fuck your gotcha question imp!  
   
 Fuck all of it!!  
   
 The entrie situation comes down to Stormy Daniels got paid to keep her MOUTH SHUT!!! And then when she’d blown through the 130 large she decided to run her mouth in order to make more money! You see Stormy is a Horse nut and owning horses and doing dressage… fuccck! a 40 foot sail boat and a Coke addicted stripper as a girlfriend would be cheaper.  
   
 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳  
   
 First rule of fight club is you don’t talk about fight club!  
   
 If any provider on here threatened to tell about an encounter to ANYONE (except Of Course an assault on said provider, that’s the one exception) but the rest? Oh FUCK NO! IT STAYS QUIET ! ! ! Or at least it’s supposed to!  
   
 So tell me imp? Your fine with this rule being broken Becuse it’s Trump? Am I reading your typically long winded post right?  
   
 Seriously? Let’s just say a provider your fucking suddenly begins trying to extort you for money to keep your trysts quiet… how would you deal? Pay her off and then be fine when she went public?

LostSon 43 Reviews 40 reads
posted
9 / 10

1. Let’s say the WSJ was doing legit investigation all on its own and figured everything out for themselves and they weren’t fed the story…. LETS JUST SAY 🙄

2. Within two weeks of the story breaking she has hired Michael FUCKING Avenatti to sue to break the NDA.  

That’s NOT keeping your mouth shut. She was outta money and figured the story was worth more than honoring the NDA.  

That is what happened.

LostSon 43 Reviews 40 reads
posted
10 / 10

What’s particularly hilarious is Michael Avenatti would steal $300,000 from her $800,000 she got paid for her book Full Disclosure.

Again, I say that’s not keeping your mouth shut!

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