and you decide

it addresses many of the points and

counter points made on this board

and

elsewhere

He admits that they are not the same.

4Th quarter. 2 min warning, Gop is on thier own 46 yd line. Sounds like a hail mary.

4Th quarter. 2 min warning, Gop is on thier own 46 yd line. Sounds like a hail mary.  
 
umm....excuse me, but based on what? the same polls that showed both KErry and GOre up at this stage of the election? The same pollsters
that showed Reagan down by 12 when he beat Carter?
The same polls that showed Ford down by 30, when he narrowly lost to Carter?

Pollster are part of the obama liberal media complex. they are outright for BO. And everyone knows they are wrong, and even the exit pollsters are wrong wrong wrong wrong ,too.

don't believe everything you read or hear from the media. AFter all they are liberal arts students, and everyone who went to college knows that they can't add, do math, flunked science, and everything else except for nude modeling, playing poker in the cafeteria, and smoking joints at the soriety house.

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The Media is as "Liberal" as their ADVERTISERS.

How the liberals in the media think, and act.
Advertisers, ROFLMAO.
Back to the topic...
If Obama was not born here, he cannot be President. Period the end. No liberal window washing can change that.
I find the topic to be one of great importance, and it needs to be clarified before the election.

Too bad for you it's TRUE.

Some seem to be believe that he was born in Kenya, and by his grandmother's own admission.
This is supposed to be on tape.
Why will Obama not produce his birth certificate?
Why does he simply show it and put the matter to rest, and why does the liberal media ignore the lawsuit that was filed?
Since you know he was born in Hawaii, I would like to see your PROOF.

If so, the lawsuit would not have been filed.

How many times are you going to repeat yourself with your wasted bandwidth comment?
Every time you spew, you waste bandwidth.
Stop being a twerp.

This fool said "I can't release it right now for security reasons."  Are you fucking kidding me.  Whose security?  This idiot claims to have evidence, well then leak it anonymously.  This idiot also claims to have evidence about some guy with a totally different name that he claims is Obama.  Where is the proof, or at least evidence (I don't mean belief).  His argument is composed of conclusion based upon conclusion, without premise.

I don't understand in any way someone can claim to be certain of a thing without proof of a thing.  That seems to me to be the absence of intellectual rigor.  I say this to all on the board, please acknowledge that your beliefs are just that.  Even if you believe them strongly, beliefs are neither evidence nor proof.  Without proof that others are incorrect, you ought not tell them they are wrong, only that you believe differently and you believe they should agree with you for one or more reasons.

Posted by ezeedude123  , 10/26/2008 4:42:20 PM
 
"...but based on what? the same polls that showed both Kerry and Gore up at this stage of the election?"

Let's end this selective memory myth that is going around that says Kerry was up in all the polls and still lost.  It simple is not true.  Kerry was in only TWO(+2,+1)polls out more that TEN at this stage in 2004.  McCain is down big and running out of time.  The polls are usually pretty accurate at this stage of the game.  The situation in 2008 is not comparable to 2004.  

Let's cut the bullshit.

Here's the proof:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry.html