Politics and Religion

Payback has started . . . .
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 1153 reads
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Trump is firing Vinman and Sondland so far in what is expected to be a huge purge of swamp dwellers.  However, there are no reports of any executions yet.  More to come.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 61 reads
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2 / 58

Sondland might be fired, but Vindman is just reassigned -- not quite the firing squad.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 45 reads
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3 / 58

he was actually assigned to the Joint Staff and detailed to the White House.  He will still serve out the remainder of his tour on the Joint Staff and his reporting chain is insulated enough from Trump that he WILL be promoted to Colonel.  He would never have been selected to serve at his current level without having a stellar performance record.

 
As vindictive as Trump is, he may try to affect Vindman's promotion status, but with a pattern of performance like his, Vindman would win easily in court and not only get any back pay/warranted promotion, but all his legal fees, as well.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 54 reads
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Upper tiers of military are all political.  With lots of competitive candidates trying to move up.  It doesn't take much of a mistake to find yourself on the retirement track in the military.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 64 reads
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5 / 58

Joint Staff?  Trust me, you can take my post to the bank.  Vindman may choose to retire, but he would have a very strong legal case, for definitely one more promotion if he wanted.  Competitive does not even remotely describe the pattern of superior performance (top 1%) Vindman had to have in order, to be selected to serve in his current position.

 
Not all who are in Vindman's rating chain approve of Trump.  You can be sure of that.  And there is a system in place to deal with whatever Trump would attempt to dole out.  As far as Trump's political appointees go, they are SOL.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 60 reads
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6 / 58

...like all the swamp creatures Trump put into the swamp?

 
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/350-lobbyists-swimming-in-trumps-swamp.html

 
This wasn't a purge of swamp dwellers, it was revenge and retribution for two witnesses who told the truth at the impeachment investigation.  Or as Stephanie Grisham called it - "payback."

 
Do you even know who Gordon Sondland is?  WTF are you doing on this board?!  Sondland was dwelling in the swamp at the behest of Trump who rewarded Swampy Sondland for donating $1 million to Trump's campaign. You're praising Trump for purging the swamp dwellers when it was Trump who put them into the swamp in the first place.  Look at my thumb...

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAEHQ4As0xw

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coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 51 reads
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7 / 58

"payback" in my headline.  Geez, you're the same as Laffy.  Not a good way to herald your return to  TER.  The swamp purge is COMING . . . . probably AFTER Trump's re-election.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 92 reads
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If he reached the maximum "time-in-grade" point and has not been promoted.  The time-in-grade factor in military promotions insures lifers SLOWLY move up regardless of whether they deserve it on their merits or not.  It similar to union membership in civilian life.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 50 reads
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9 / 58

In order to have competed for his current position, Vindman must have one, maybe even two "below-the-zone" (BTZ) promotions.  Know what that is?

 
When facing his BTZ board for Colonel no matter how competitive he may have been securing Major and LTC promotions his track record alone does not guarantee him a BTZ chance at Colonel.  But the pattern of his performance, that garnered him BOTH early promotions and his Joint Staff assignment (NSC position in the WH) are more than enough to secure a primary board promotion to Colonel.  He is competing (the totality of his performance profile is competing) in a system and against the track record/performances of other LTCs.  His circumstances played out on national TV and he has all the evidence he needs to counter any promotion board from NOT promoting him or any attempt to adversely affect his NSC tour, ending eval.

 
Prior to testifying before the House, Vindman's track record just may have made him competitive for BG.  We will never know as that information is not available to us.  Now this IS one way his career will DEFINITELY be affected by standing up and telling the truth against political blow back.  ALL general officer promotions DEFINITELY ARE more than highly political (even BG) and depending upon when he would meet a BG board (do not know his TIG or TIS), probably in 6 years or so he may get lucky and enough of those politicians who could stand in his way may be gone.  But I truly doubt it.

 
Vindman may not want to go through all this BS and could easily decide to retire when he has 3 years in grade.  But should he decide to fight it out, he DEFINITELY would live through one more promotion.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 55 reads
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10 / 58

hasty to call out poor judgement.  We still do not know if they suffer from dementia, an inability to process the facts when those facts run counter to their own wishes, or they are as corrupt as Trump.

 
Remember what your mom used to say; "birds of a feather, flock together?"

Once-Is-Not-Enough 50 reads
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11 / 58

evidence to the contrary and Trump's empty rhetoric is consistently negated by his actions.  Let them believe he favors our military when his actions prove otherwise.

 
If he was so supportive of the military, then how could he rape the defense budget of over $7 billion, for a wall, that his republican led congress (house of representatives and the senate), refused to fund, and he PROMISED Mexico would pay for?  Two lies in one effort--man he IS good!

 
Those funds are very difficult to compete for, yet after these mission essential programs, demonstrated the impact on our national security if they went without funding, he simply snatched the funding right out from under them, without a second thought.

 
If he was so supportive of the military, then how could he attempt to label the traumatic brain injuries suffered by 64 U.S. service members in Iraq, as "slight headaches," just to protect his fragile ego from criticism over his half-baked effort to take out an Iranian General?

 
If he was so supportive of the military, how could he pardon, court martialed traders rather than allow the integrity of the military justice system to run its course?  Had he served in the military, he would have known how adversely his actions would impact good order and discipline.  He would also have known how important it is to maintain good order and discipline, especially in areas of military conflict.

 
As always, ample evidence of major disconnects between Trump's empty rhetoric and his actions.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 54 reads
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of what I said.  There is also a MINIMUM time in grade, which CAN BE WAIVED.  I was promoted twice with a time-in-grade waiver.  I was talking about mandatory TIG promotions when approaching the Max time in grade.  This is the reason many offiers retire if they have not been promoted to the next grade by a certain time.  You are right about what you're saying, but you are talking about something other than what I was saying.  I knew a guy that had 35 years of service and was only a Lt. Col.  He spend almost the maximum time allowed at each grade on the way up.  He was waiting for the next promotion so he could retire at the full Col. rate.  

Once-Is-Not-Enough 66 reads
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13 / 58

all the facts.  When an officer gets "passed over" as the result of a "primary zone" promotion board, he/she is classified for any subsequent promotion board as "above-the-zone," (ATZ).  Getting passed over twice is virtually the end of an officer's career and barring extenuating circumstances, he/she is forced to retire within 12 months.  At least, that is the way it is TODAY.  

 
While it is not impossible for an ATZ officer to get promoted, doing so would require a correction to that officers personnel record as may be necessitated if an appeal is filed because, due to no fault of his/hers, that officer's personnel record did not contain all the relevant information to allow him/her to fairly compete with that officer's peers, and solely on the basis of his/her merit.

 
Mean no disrespect, promise.  But if you knew someone who had 35 years of service and was only an O-5, and truly had a snowball's chance in hell at getting promoted to O-6, either that person had significant enlisted time prior to being commissioned, or an act of congress/presidential waiver made them that one exception in a million.  Either that or, that person was not accurately representing the facts to you.

 
Beyond the rank of Captain, nobody gets promoted, simply by sitting around, and waiting until they have the "Max time in grade."  They must compete with their peers for a limited number of promotions.  That number of available promotions is based on the needs of each service, that officer's MOS/AFSC and diminishes significantly, with each advancing rank, field grade (Major on up) and beyond.

 
Regardless, this has nothing to do with my OP.  Was very narrowly outlining how Vindman would definitely be eligible for one more promotion, should he choose to stick around for it.  AND that is only due to his merit, and the way officer promotions are mandated by law, full stop.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 121 reads
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14 / 58

...even though he supposedly had a son who was a Marine lieutenant killed "in service to our country."  What do you think CDL's supposed son would think about his father trashing Lt. Col. Vindman (whose name CDL doesn't even has the respect to learn how to spell correctly)?

 
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-12/my-condolences-on-the-loss-----923321?page=

 
In his testimony, Vindman addressed his father, saying:  "Do not worry, I will be fine for telling the truth.”  What if that was CDL's alleged son giving the same testimony, telling the truth, telling CDL he would be fine and then getting fired?  Do you think CDL would exult in his firing and joke about "executions?"

impposter 49 Reviews 57 reads
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15 / 58

Posted By: Laffy
Re: The fact you beat off to this is disgusting
Also, how is Sondland part of the "swamp" when your Savior hired him after getting a million dollar donation?
Sondland refused to resign. Trump fired him, against the advice of numerous high ranking Reps.  
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Sondland should ask for a refund of his million dollars. Quid pro quo. $1M for an ambassadorship. Give him his money back if you take it away.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 79 reads
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16 / 58

There is no depth to which you will not sink.  Such is the way with the despicable.  Trash me all you want.  I choose to be here, but you are the lowest of the low to bring my son, who was killed in combat, into your political argument.  You have absolutely no honor.  If you want to make it personal on that level, I have much to tell about you.  You are a bitter OTH fat guy who can't get it up anymore.  Those are not my words, but from providers you have fucked in the past but say you can't see them anymore anymore because of your limp dick.  That's why you have switched sides and you're a "bottom" now.  

Typos corrected.

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GaGambler 49 reads
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17 / 58

I think you misunderstood Michelle Obama's words. She did NOT say "When they go low, we go lower"  

 

I thought Laffy was the lowest of the low here, you have accomplished what I thought was impossible, you have proven yourself lower than Laffy. This has to be the most classless post ever made on this or any other board. If the two of you ever meet at a M&G my advice to you is, DUCK.

JackDunphy 35 reads
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18 / 58

How about taking a break here and reevaluating your life? You have hit rock bottom and that is saying something.

 
I would hope some of the decent liberals here would address your hateful and disgusting comments.  

 
Thanks for bringing the board to a new low, and I didn't think that possible after Laffy's grotesque remark the other day.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 47 reads
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19 / 58

I'm sorry for your loss.  All our freedoms and way of life are due to those willing to or who have paid the extreme sacrifice.

JackDunphy 54 reads
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20 / 58

...to make some grotesque, highly personal and hateful political point. I have seen a lot of "lows" here, but we have absolutely hit rock bottom. Truly a vile moment.

inicky46 61 Reviews 38 reads
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I did not know this and am disgusted to see it used like this.  There is simply no excuse..
None.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 58 reads
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22 / 58

but think about it.  Aren't you calling for a double standard?  Isn't this what Trump has done, time and time again.

 
Remember that "gold star" father?  Remember John McCain?  You expect those on a fuck board to be honorable.  And in the next breath, you hail someone who does not know the meaning of honor.  How could that be?

 
Didn't Trump also downplay the traumatic brain injuries of 64 service members as, "slight headaches" just to protect his own ego?

 
Let's not forget the sacrifices made by way too many of OUR American heroes.  Something Trump is incapable of.

 
CDL, truly sorry for your loss.  But am also sorry for the loss of all our HEROES.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 46 reads
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23 / 58

All of a sudden, you care about Michelle Obama's standard for honor.  Yet embrace the most dishonorable president in our nation's history.  Trump makes Nixon look like a choir boy.

 
Shame on you GaGa!  Let's try to be honest here, or at least consistent.  Have read many of your posts and know you are better than that.

followme 61 reads
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24 / 58

6 or 7 years ago he earned the name BackStabber (he stabbed one of his own in the back) which then became BrokeBackStabber.

 
He has been reported on several blacklists as having dead fish breath.

 
He has put up many anti-police and anti-military posts over the years.

 
Though vile and disgusting I’m not surprised he said it. He does not have, never had and never will have any honor or integrity.

 
Sorry for your loss  
For God and Country

 
BTW the reason he has not posted for almost two years is because he was in California State Prison.    

GaGambler 45 reads
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25 / 58

and I have come to the opposite conclusion. Your hate of our current President seems to make you blind to anything else. You were the ONLY poster here, on either side of the aisle who didn't make an outright condemnation of the truly classless post that BPS made in regards to CDL's late son.  

 
I would have liked to say that your response and attempted effort to excuse a truly vile and classless post by BPS surprised me, but quite frankly it didn't. Like many of your ilk, you preach civility and "reason" to others, but somehow find a way to excuse any kind of behavior from someone on your side of the aisle as only as they share your hatred of Donald Trump.

 
Have a nice day, I honestly can't think of anything else I have to say to you.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 45 reads
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who donated to Hillary in 2016, and got NOTHING in return should also ask for a refund?  Fired or not, he will henceforth always be addressed by the courtesy title of Ambassador Sondland.  Many others would pay a million for that privilege.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 44 reads
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Exactly out of Trump's playbook and the standard GOP talking points.  I never once mentioned I hated Trump.  Shame on you!  But I HAVE cited countless instances of his dishonorable, inept, disingenuous and self-serving behavior.  You may be able to pull that crap with the blind sheep of your flock, but you will have to do much better if you plan on addressing me.

 
You won't ever see me claiming;  1) I am for, a woman's right to choose, 2) same-sex marriage, and 3) that the wall is a total waste of time, etc., etc. while having virtually no logical reason for supporting a president who makes every effort to undermine those.

 
You are either confused, lack a sense of logic, or are being totally dishonest with yourself.  I do NOT hate Trump.  I AM totally against his dishonorable, inept, disingenuous and self-serving behavior.   Not only can I identify it, when someone possesses those traits, I have the guts to call him/her out for exhibiting them.

 
Sending an email message to the editors at Webster's Dictionary and making sure they include your photo under the definition of hypocrite.  Now go feed your BS to your "crew" or someone who does not know any better.

JackDunphy 43 reads
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You just wouldn't allow yourself to rip a scumbag for using someones dead son to make a political point and leave it at that. Says quite a lot about your "character" that you felt the need to so swiftly divert to something else, when that "something else", is discussed on these boards, in all of its minutia, each and every day.

 
I have made comments on all of those issues you mention, but I will choose to keep this on topic as there are still some things more important than politics. Sadly, but not shockingly, you disagree.

 
It wasn't all that long ago when the board would have fully come together to denounce such hatred and vitriol, but thankfully we have the likes of yourself to hold the torch for the other side.

 
Next time, try for human. Are you even capable?

JackDunphy 76 reads
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Once-Is-Not-Enough 42 reads
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30 / 58

even believe the poo poo you spew, yourself?  I truly doubt it!  Pitiful.  Just pitiful.

GaGambler 68 reads
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As for my positions on Gay Marriage, Abortion rights and all the other issues where I am with the libs, I have held those positions for decades, well before Trump,, well before Obama, well before Al Gore invented the internet. and I have literally THOUSANDS of posts predating both Obama and Trump that prove my point.  

 
Once is a liar, he hates Trump more than he cares for anything else, and quite frankly he doesn't merit even acknowledging unless and until he can at least admit that the comments by BPS were not only below the belt, but were completely classless and beneath defending or even mitigating by anyone with the least shred of dignity.  

 

TSTTT indeed.

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 70 reads
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It’d be you who’d defend such a despicable comment  by a total loser like BP. You’re an embarrassment to the human race. BP is a well known total scumbag here. I guess we now have two. Douchebag.  

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USGrantlover 225 Reviews 62 reads
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Speaking of “shit for brains” was Vindman lying or stupid (or both) when he testified before the House it was O’bama who sold Ukraine Javelins? Please advise.

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BigPapasan 3 Reviews 50 reads
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...Do you realize where you are?  TER's discussion boards are where bullshitters go to spread their bullshit.  Like the guy who claims to run TWO businesses yet spends all day posting on TER.  

I've known CDL a lot longer than the rest of you naive fools.  We even began as friends on the L.A. and K-girl boards before he started posting on General and P&R.  Eventually I got tired of his incessant bullshit and called him out on it.

 
If you believe whatever someone posts, I've got a bridge to sell you.  Remind me sometime to tell you about CDL's "late" wife.  His posts about her are contradictory and pure bullshit.  The hardest thing for a liar to do is to keep lying and keep his story consistent.

 
You seem to forget about the several times CDL was humiliated and chased off the General Board for his bullshit.  He disappeared for weeks and months at a time before crawling back with his tail between his legs.

 
What a bunch of fucking lemmings you are!

JackDunphy 56 reads
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Numerous people, both on the right and left, have referred to you as "backstabber" over the years. According to you, THEY are all lying and YOU are the truth teller. Bwahahahaha!

 
How many times has GaG referred to you as THE most dishonest person to EVER post here? A hundred times? Two hundred? You want to put your rep up next to his? How do YOU think that will go over here?

 
Had you had a good rep here, you MIGHT have been able to distance yourself from your despicable words but you have no such rep, so you get NO benefit of the doubt, AND you haven't said ANYTHING as yet as to back down or apologize for them.  

 
You made your own bed now you are whining like a bitch that you have to sleep in it. Tough shit.

 
Congrats BP you have united the board against you, something I didn't think possible on ANY issue. NO ONE came to your aid, but don't worry, Laffy hasn't checked in yet so you have hope.

 
Now, you have wasted too much of my time today and you have become "THTTT" (too hateful to talk to) anyway.

 
Go fuck yourself you POS.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 42 reads
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...and other losers like you.  You just proved what a loser you are by citing GaG as the 'authority' that I am the most dishonest person ever to post here.  Who the fuck is GaG - the king of TER?  ROFLMAO!!  You suck up and bow down to GaG like you do to Trump.  Just because GaG says it makes it true?  You're an idiot!  Why don't you come up with your own examples, ass licker?

 
Do you think I care if a fuckboard is "united" against me?  I've taken on Fortune 500 companies that were united against me and came out on top.

 
Now go suck on your dad's Manadnock.  It's good practice for what you do sexually.

JackDunphy 70 reads
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GaGambler 50 reads
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The fact that you and CDL were once friends is hardly a mitigating factor, it makes your low blow even lower if possible.

 
You often make good points even though we disagree on almost everything, the problem you have is that you have a "mean streak" in you that I simply can't condone, even I pull my punches on occasion. I know plenty of personal things about many of the posters on this board, but I would NEVER even think to use that information against them simply to try to make them look bad in some kind of effort to make myself look better. Winning a stupid argument on a fuck board that only a dozen or so people will ever see isn't worth going personal like that. You are actually the one who pointed out just how few people will ever read what is said here.

 
Almost everybody here with the few exceptions like Laffy and Once have at least one friend from across the political aisle, I am certain you don't have a single conservative friend here, or most likely anywhere else for that matter. I like to joke, argue and even fight at times, but I get no pleasure from talking with someone as mean spirited as you have proven yourself to be.

 
AAR unless you would like to provide proof positive that CDL was lying about his son, or alternatively apologize for what you said to him.  I am going to have to join Jack and find you THTTT in the future.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 68 reads
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...who engage in vitriol because they can't win arguments intellectually.  I'll have a rational debate with anyone who wants too.  Unfortunately, conservatives are all too often assholes.

 
And you, the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.  You're the biggest bully on all the boards.  I still remember the first exchange we had (on another board).  It was eleven years ago - I posted something innocuous and you viciously attacked me for no reason.  That's who you are.  But even then, I didn't roll over.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 66 reads
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...proof positive that CDL was lying about his son.  It's up to you to prove he HAD a son.  Who the fuck are you to decide who's telling the truth and who isn't?  You believe him simply because he's on your "team"?  GTFOH

GaGambler 65 reads
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Once-Is-Not-Enough 115 reads
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Give me a break.  You have to do better than that!  REALLY.  How pitiful can a human being get?  YOU take the prize!  This is NOT seventh grade.  Even though you are stuck in seventh grade, people with any sense, use basic logic to reason, not your pitiful, infantile, empty rhetoric.

 
You would not know what dignity was if it hit you in your penile implant.  That's because your role model Trump's idea of dignity is good enough for you.  Birds of a feather DO flock together.

 
Don't wait for me to get you a box of tissues to wipe off your crocodile tears.  You pitiful, infantile, ignoramus.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 51 reads
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But let's be honest here.  You and GaGa ARE two of the biggest bull shitters known to man.  We ALL can agree on THAT.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 53 reads
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refresher course in English comprehension, then reread my post BEFORE you come to any senseless conclusions.  Your stupidity is showing.  Nobody defended anybody's post.

 
If you still do not get it, find some elementary school teacher to tutor you.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 63 reads
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here who double down on stupid.  You are the only one who doubles down on stupid asshole.  The reason they are all laughing at you is because they know more about me than you do.  Ask GaG how many times in the past four or five years I have PM'd him that I was going out of the country on business for several weeks and I would not be posting while I was gone. You took it upon yourself to spread the lie that I was chased off of the boards.  YOU are the one with the reputation for lying, backstabbing, and speculating (not to mention ED, bad breath and body odor from the ladies you have seen).  On occasion, I believe I have also told Nick and several LA guys from the Kgirl boards when I'm going to be gone for more than a few days on business, so when you come on here with your wild claims, they can only laugh their asses off that you are such a complete moron.  

 
If I wanted to lie about my son, I would say he was the president of J.P. Morgan.  Admitting he died in combat impresses no one.  It happens to soldiers all the time, although his sacrifice should still be respected along with all the others, but that is a concept beyond a soulless cocksucker like you.  I'm betting you are not a veteran and have never served your country, only taken what you can for yourself.  You are being punished for being you by still being you.  I wouldn't wish that on anyone else.  So do you want your new acronym on here to be DFB (dead fish breath) or DBP (despicable Big Papasan)?

JackDunphy 68 reads
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That must be because you have him "cornered, no where to go so he panicked." LOL

 
Just another hypocritical Lefty with no game. Sad!

GaGambler 35 reads
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And Mr High Brow tries to make it all about Trump.

 

No, he's not obsessed at all with Trump, is he?  

 

My question (rhetorical question of course) is how do you even carry on a conversation with someone so  obsessed with another human being? The answer of course is "You don't" but you already knew that I bet, didn't you?. lol

JackDunphy 56 reads
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But I see where Mr High Brow just called you an "asshole." Amongst our group, that is a term of affection but I am pretty sure he used it as a pejorative. lol.

 
So much for his lies about "insults."

 
Is there any wonder why he would cozy up to a guy who uses someone's dead son as a political pawn? Dead Fish Breath has competition for most vile person here, but I'll bet on DFB to pull it out. He never disappoints. lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 67 reads
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It lets you know which direction the are killing you from, but if you can't shoot back, how is that of any value?

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 64 reads
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To go after his political enemies. The McCabe case was dropped by the DOJ. So yes, we are now a Banana Republic...So much for your "Deep State" conspiracy

Once-Is-Not-Enough 50 reads
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any of these Trump zealots will admit the truth?  They have not done so, to this point.  This is absolutely deplorable.  Any idea what our allies and the rest of the world are thinking?

 
Our country used to be respected and known for always taking the high road.  It will take a long time before we regain our place of leadership in the world.  By creating a vacuum like this, Trump is opening the door for China.  They are already expanding their influence in the Pacific, but you won't hear much about that here.

 
Am not going to accuse the "crew" and other Trump followers of being unpatriotic.  Just think they lack the intellect and objectivity to see what is happening around them.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 40 reads
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Then some should have told the Just Security that the headline should read "Why Does Ambassador Gordon Sondland Still Have a Job?...am I understanding that correctly??
Or is this going to be a self proclaimed title...Just curious how this works

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 48 reads
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Governors and Congressmen still being address by that title after they have left office.  Likewise, Pelosi will always be Madam Speaker after she is ousted when the House flips in November.  They still call Gingrich Speaker Gingrich.  I thought you would know this.  Its pretty common.  Even presidents are addressed as Mr. President after they have left office.  

 
The example you give is a third-party publication.  I'm talking about when is addressed or introduced in person.  That's when a courtesy title is used.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 45 reads
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about courtesy titles and your post that I responded to is bullshit?  Thanks. Its about time you were truthful.  

Once-Is-Not-Enough 53 reads
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consistent.  He either is unable to read, or continuously misses the point.  Maybe we should be patient and wait for the other two members of the "crew" to help him out.  You know what they say, three brain cells are better than one.

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