Weird?  

Or a serious question?

To me, people should be judged as individuals as their group identity should mean nothing.

There are providers who will see you. It will always be like this for black people. Providers or clients. We go through the same thing.

It's interesting that you would consider something negative about her because of this comment.  She DOES NOT SAY she only sees white men, she just says she loves white men.  I love Asian women, but I have seen providers of all ethnicities, except one, . . .  eskimo, but it's only because I don't travel to places where they can be found.  

People should be free to associate with whom they wish.

"All women except black women are most drawn to white men" -- Facebook app "Are You Interested"
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"White men get more replies from almost every group." -- OkCupid
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"White women prefer white men; Asian and Latina women prefer them "even more exclusively." -- OkCupid

Her body, her choice. Period. Full stop. Just like men get to decide who they want to see, ladies should have the same right.

And from where did you get those stats?

Lester,
Thanks for letting us know that Plessy v. Ferguson was decided appropriately. Have you renewed your KKK  membership yet?

Look at the end of each sentence.

Which is the only way I can speak, I've encountered this several times in P4P. Had a couple of ladies turn me away at the door. At a certain point I started asking ladies whether they see AA men before I'd make an appointment.  

Quite a false equivalency comparing publicly funded and provided K-12 education with illegal, private P4P. But hey, whatever works for you.

I once was seeing a black sugar babe who didn't want to be seen in public with me.  She didn't say why exactly, but of all the escorts and sugar babes I've seen, she was the first and only one who didn't want to be seen with me.  It didn't bother me in the least.  I do also remember when I was young and dating, reading personals where some black women didn't want to date white guys.  Again it didn't bother me.  They have their reasons.

As GaGa pointed out years ago, there is a world of difference between a provider saying "I don't want to fuck a guy who  is as old as my father or grandfather, be he white, black Asian, etc."  and a blatantly racist statement, such as " I won't see AA, Asian, etc., men  If you don't understand the distinction, I suggest you contact GaGa and have him explain it to you.  He may bitch slap you, but you really deserve it.

You have said many times on this board that you are physically quite unattractive. Why wouldn't it be that? Why are you assuming she's racist? Maybe she just has good taste?

Two things.  I am butt ugly.  And I didn't say she was racist.  In fact I said I don't know why she didn't want to be seen with me.  Maybe it was because I am butt ugly.  

Your entire post suggested she didn't want to be seen with you because you're white. Own it, fester.

Generally inexperienced providers so NO this or NO that.  Do not waste your money seeing such a provider. The experience will be bad in every way ( limited service, high price and bad attitude )..

That's right, one possibility is she didn't want to be seen with a white guy.  That's not racist.

Since she'd go down on her knees and blow me, I think her fear of being seen with me could have been due to racism ... of other black people who would look down on her for seeing a white guy.

Maybe because she was young and not mature enough to deal with being seen with an older white butt ugly male..
But what did you have mind while out in public? Dinner? Movie? Concert ?  
Just curious

Possibly.  I think were getting too far off in the woods on a simple possible example of people selecting on the basis of race for whatever reason. I don't have anything more to add since I can't read the young lady's mind.

It ain't veiled at all. These older Milfs are very competitive

you obviously missed it and have a chip on your shoulder.  If a provider does not want to see you for ANY reason, do you still want to see her?  Does that sound like the kind of session you want?  In this case, whether she's racist or not, does it matter WHY she doesn't want to see you?  

I didn't realize that GaGambler was the world's foremost authority.  Step aside Irwin Corey.

I had wondered about that, having seen this on a good number of ads. Personally, I think it goes without saying, or should, that this is ultimately up to the provider. You can legislate equal access and opportunity to just about anything. But, you can’t legislate a physical, cultural, or aesthetic preference. Lots of guys like Asian girls, fine. They limit themselves to that group. Lots of guys like Latina women, fine, plenty to choose from. You can find guys who prefer some kind of girl or other, to the exclusion of others. Should they be required by law to hire equal percentages of all ethnic groups? You wanna legislate that? Because that is exactly where we’re headed. In the religion of “equity”. OMG, I HATE hearing that word be abused so.  Idk how many providers have ghosted me or no show, no phoned me trying to be seen in the mornings. It’s a large number. Just freekin’ be honest, and don’t tell me ok, and decide to sleep in without telling me. Honesty in advertising. Like photoshopped pictures from many years/pounds ago. Would you prefer to be turned away at the door, because of your race? Or would you prefer to know not to bother wasting your time? And hire someone who will appreciate you. Granted the optics are bad, but if you think about it, it’s as ok as any other personal preference.

Queen... racial and gender biases are social constructs true, but that also makes them real world realities.  They are both deeply woven into the society we live in. Heck, slavery was legal just 160 years ago and women were only given the right to vote 123 years ago. Given that and the intimate nature of providing, it's actually a net positive for someone to know in advance that a provider isn't right for them. They'd be wasting their time and hard earned money on an unsatisfactory, but expensive, experience.  It may ruffle some feathers, but that's the bottom line.  The value prop for TER is what?  Reviews. Hobbyist read those reviews to determine if a provider is a good fit for them.  So, a provider saying "I don't want you as a client", is just adding to that vital information.  Perhaps, one day we'll start seeing ads with even more specificity.  For example "sorry, but I don't see men over 300 pounds".  Or, "sorry, but no men over 65.". There is some irony in all of this though.  And that's this; Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy were all white.  Bundy was even good looking, articulate and charming.  Moral?  We should all dig a little deeper and be careful about judging books by their covers.  That's utopian though and unlikely to happen at scale.  Just my 2 cents.

Some won't see guys under 30 or over 60. Some K-Girls won't see Korean men since they're afraid it could end up being someone who knows them from the Korean community and might out them.
And so on.

It's a bummer.  There have been some ladies that I have reached out to after reading some of their reviews that have declined to see me.  At this point it's not a big deal, I just move on.  I do make it a point to ask if they see black men once I make contact with those who do not state that in their ad.  I would guess that said provider referenced in your post has received backlash for her hinted exclusive preferences in the past, so she posts that she "loves white guys, get over it" as her defense mechanism.  

I don't know what the problem is. I personally refuse to see anyone who is not a body double for ET.    

Newt has no reviews, so maybe he's just here for the conversation and has no experience with providers.  Whether racism is even a factor in a provider's decision not to see someone, it's not going to improve things to force her to see you.  On the other hand, I have learned that oftentimes, a claim of racism is just a convenient excuse for why an unreasonable person did not get their own way.  "The girl at Starbucks did not fill my cup all the way up because I'm a minority and she's racist."   PLEEEEEZZZ.  Newt should get a life.

And the finger that’s “powered”, maybe there’s more to it than a light, eh? 😉

Someone call the AACP and get The Reverend JJ on this stat.

I think statistics and probability play a huge role. I'm talking about crime statistics, relevant to personal safety. Certain demographics are extremely disproportionately violent. Like 6x to 10x.   That's huge.  Yes individuals in that demographic get a bad deal. But this endeavor operates in the shadows of the law where obtaining reliable character information is difficult at best.

Crime statistics prove who's getting arrested, not who's breaking the law, much less who has a propensity to break it.  
White men are robbing, stealing, beating their girlfriends and everything else. But, just as we saw in a recent incident in a fight in a mall, when the cops show up, the black kids get handcuffs and the white kids get a talking to. If they arrested all the people doing coke on Wall Street or Sunset Blvd, the numbers would quickly start to rival the number of dealers getting busted for hand-to-hand buys in the hood.  

By the way this was meant as a joke. But I forgot that joking on social media can cause an out and out war!!
So I think slip off quietly.

I really can't figure out how you guys think honest discourse can occur on social media. A place where EVERYONE is right...and...EVERYONE IS WRONG.  
Let's just go back to rating escorts and may everyone find the pro-girl of his and her dreams.

That all black men who see SWs are pimps just looking to recruit ho's to work for them. Crime statistics, smh.

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I have seen providers who post no AA, when I reach out to them anyway, once I tell them my age they agree to see me because they feel like I’m not a pimp or trying to get something for nothing, also this is my opinion, I feel like providers who post I love white guys is because they feel like they will get a bigger tip or maybe more, I had this one provider tell me that a client have given her expensive gifts, including a high dollar car, I assume it was a white guy, but who knows could have been some rich black guy, I should have asked, one last thing, just because a provider post I love white guys doesn’t mean she won’t see guys of other races.

Right, it's those damn fake crime statistics. You are in denial, sir.

If you are talking about crime stats related to black males then you don't have the support you claim. It's been shown that while black males, typically younger, are more highly represented in the crime stats their crimes of violence are significantly more oriented towards other Blacks, not Whites, Asians or Hispanics.

Hilarious.

...are AA themselves.  Also, I'm not sure if I've ever seen a "I love white guys" in a white gal's ad, it's always a provider of color.  Both are quite prevalent in the lower end ad platforms and rarely seen on platforms such as TER.  

just like you do.  They understand the difference between discrimination in something that should be available to everyone, and a personal preference by people in private.  Like my friends, you have obviously learned to not take it personally and just move on to the next name on our list.   It's the fake open-minded white people that think exercising a preference in a voluntary activity is racist.

I love Asian women. My homie loves PAWGS. I prefer Asian and Black and Latina over white and I am white myself. But I like pawgs too. Lol.  

Correct. Any legal service or retail industry, even if they have the "we refuse right to serve anyone" sign, wouldn't dare to say "no AA". At best they would get bodily harmed and at worst they'd have a lawsuit that would bankrupt smaller entities.

Given that the courts have ruled that personal services enjoy wider discretion for choice of whom to transaction business with, that is not a clearly established standard.