So we're not exactly dealing with an oracle here------------LMFAO !
First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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So much for her honoring the results of the election. Remember the lib media was in full throttle meltdown about the possibility that Trump wouldn't honor the results had he lost.
I'd like to say Hills has crawled out on her belly AGAIN, but she must have completely worn off her her entire stomach spending so much time on it lately. lol
No evidence of tampering or outside influence per Obama's peeps today but that won't stop
the Hildebeast. Facts don't matter and she was owed the presidency. lol
Just go away Hillary. Just go away.
I voted for Mrs. Clinton because the thoughts of voting for Mr. Trump was nauseating. Now though, her going down this path is no better than Trump and his delusions. In fact, it may be worse as she and the DNC collaborated against my candidate, Mr. Sanders. The country is deeply divided. She conceded. The Obama administration has said there was no increased foul play than normal and that they accept the results. Mrs. Clinton should follow the lead of Mr. Obama here. His class is intact, as always.
This will only hurt her already damaged legacy and make our party appear to be unable to accept the results. Our efforts should go to blocking Mr. Trump where we can and focusing on the message for the 2018 mid-terms.
Then it occurred to me that she was probably an Alinskyite as well and was just hoping for more chaos while raising millions. I haven't done any research into recount laws in WI, MI and PA but I would think the State AG has the ability to reject such requests unless certain triggers or evidence exists. Simply offering to pay for the recount shouldn't be enough but I don't know for sure. It's absurd since they'd have to run the table, overturning all 3 states. Never mind it took Michigan over TWO weeks to count the first time.
Now Clinton is joining in? WTF? I think President Obama needs to call her again. Last night I read that he's the one that called her on election night and he convinced her to concede.
Maybe she's doing this threat as a ploy to get a promise of a pardon from Trump so Obama doesn't have to do it (assuming he might).
First of all, I give credit to Stein's devoted supporters for contributing so much money to her goal to contest the election results in some close states. Translation: I am guessing that of the $5+ million raised so far that $50,000 came from Stein supporters, $4,650,000 from Hillary supporters and $300,000 from FORMER Trump supporters pissed off that he has flipped again on so many of their favorite issues. (I never said that.)
Second of all, the Dems are claiming that they are just going along for the ride to protect legal rights and so on and that is perfectly normal and expected. I'm serious about that. If you slip and fall on your friend and neighbor's sidewalk, you don't want to sue them or harm them but you take certain actions to protect your rights, just in case. The neighbor pays your doctor bill, repairs their sidewalk, you drop your legal actions and are friends again.
Third of all, I wonder what sort of deal the Dems cut with Stein to get her to do the dirty work.
The recount is legal, it's due process, etc.... let it go forward so there are no (well, fewer) complaints down the road. The current news stories say that it is unlikely that enough votes will change to affect the outcome. Just let it run its course
speed transportation. When I vote in my tiny town we have a device that reads your ballot in a split second. Towns report their results and that's all there is to it. If you want a recount just hit the damn button again. Having some jerks sitting around a table counting each ballot leaves the door open for mischief. Lefties may not like the machines because it would make it harder for them to cheat and hitting that button for them is a tech. challenge. As for Hills crawling on her belly; all snakes do it.
.......Trump would have honored the election results, if he had lost the electoral college vote and won the popular vote? No, infact hell no!
I'd like to say Hills has crawled out on her belly AGAIN, but she must have completely worn off her her entire stomach spending so much time on it lately. lol
No evidence of tampering or outside influence per Obama's peeps today but that won't stop
the Hildebeast. Facts don't matter and she was owed the presidency. lol
Just go away Hillary. Just go away.
...she is a no better than Trump. The two are cut from the same cloth.
A point I made a thousand times during the campaign, Salty.
There is hope for you yet! lol
I still think it's highly unlikely that election results would be overturned but I still keep $4200 that I won in this election in my Paypal account because there are just way too many "buts" happening.
1. Dec 19th. I still think there is a chance that enough members of electoral college could be convinced to go "faithless", especially considering that most of their personal information is out there, and that one of the reasons electoral college was created is to insure that “the office of president will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications,” and it never rung truer then it does now.
2. Recounts. The greater is the difference between Electoral college and popular votes, the louder those voices will become. Do I still think its unlikely to get anywhere? I do. But in the beginning of Republican primaries I thought that Donald Trump didn't stand a chance too.
3. Other staff. There has never been a president-elect who threatens to step on so many feet as Trump does. There are plenty of fanatics out there especially, among Bernie's supporters, ready and willing to sacrifice themselves for the cause and there are still ways to go before the inauguration.
Just saying.
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and I doubt you have a clue as to how wagering on such things actually works.
"If" you had made the wager that you claimed you did and "if" you had actually collected that would mean your bet had been "graded" and your money would be secure.
You told a believable story up until now. But if there is anything I am an expert on besides drinking and fucking hookers, it's gambling and you just tipped your hand. Once a bet has been graded the results are final and there is no "further review" If you are going to tell lies, at least learn the ground rules first. It will be harder to catch you lying that way.
True this was the first on-line bet I ever made and I may not be up on the details and protections of things and how it works in general so I may be acting overcautious.
And by the way, what are you talking about?! Bets do get reversed when results for one reason or the other are considered fraudulent or get nullified or reversed for whatever other reason! I'm an amateur in regards to bets and even I know that! Expert you are my ass! "Wishful thinking"-type of expert that's what you are!
My money stay where they are until your lover-boy Trump gets inaugurated whether they're graded or not graded! I worked in legal field long enough to know that there is no such thing as "no farther review" on anything, let alone gambling. I knew I'm gonna get some crazy Trumpanzee trying to protect his messiah when I raise doubts about finality of this crazy election's outcome! Fuck you asshole!
In a decade of having an online account I've never seen or heard of a "graded" wager being reversed. And why pray tell is the cash in your PayPal account? All online accounts I've ever seen hold the cash in your account with them until you cash out typically via a gift card or credit card credit. You're lying. Stop it.
Either you are stupid, you are lying, or most likely, BOTH.
This has nothing to do with supporting Trump, but has everything to do with YOUR lies. Bets don't get reversed once they have been graded and settled as there is no mechanism to do so. Games can be reversed, titles can be stripped, but wagers once graded and settled are irreversible. My god, you are stupid.
...ignorant as whole hell. People who are full of themselves usually are.
First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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......by the Drumpf.
First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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So we're not exactly dealing with an oracle here------------LMFAO !
First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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....because they were so sure Trump was going to lose in a landslide are now back enmasse strutting around with overgrown mellon sized balls.
First of all I'm not lying and whether you believe me or not is truly irrelevant to the size of my bank account. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about.
The fact that you never heard of it happening doesn't mean that it can't happen. I may be a newbie in betting business but I'm no newbie in interpreting legal language. This attempt at character association is baseless and proves you for ignoramus that you are. You're like an ostrich who believes that if you never heard of it happen, then it can't happen.
I couldn't believe that what you say could possibly be true so I took some time to investigate. Didn't take long. I'd like to draw your attention to the section 4.6 of the link below. Obviously if election results are reversed it would easily fall under one of those clauses. The mechanism of getting your bets back if parties disagree is called "judicial system". Ever heard of that one? Wouldn't surprise me if you didn't.
You're ignoramuses and are full of it. And let me tell you something else I have another bet placed on French elections. Let's see how that one works out.
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Once a bet has been settled (paid) that's it, there is no review as far as the bet is concerned.
Let's say you go to the track, you bet on a horse, your horse wins, the results are official, you cash your ticket and pocket your money. Now lets suppose the next day it turns out your winning horse was doped up and is stripped of the win, do you have to return the money? OR let's say you had the horse that ran second who now is declared the winner of the race and is awarded the prize money, does your losing ticket become a winner? Of course not.
Or how about a baseball game that is decided on a controversial and WRONG call, the game is called, the bets are graded, but the losing team appeals, and appeals successfully, Does the bookie now reverse the bets? Once again, of course not, that is just not how things are done. Once a wager has been graded and paid, there is no review process, "judicial" or otherwise.
You have bet a grand total (supposedly) of $4,200 online, I started betting online in the 90's and have bet literally millions, I know what the fuck I am talking about.
Reread your own link, it doesn't say anything close to what you think it does.
...people's names just as you're trying to do mine now, and do it just for a fuck of it too asshole! Take an Embittered Asshole Management course! I'm sure if you look hard enough you'd find it. It would really help you out!
You know nothing, absolutely nothing about the process! Especially the process that involves paper trails. The fact that you never heard of things happening doesn't mean they can't.
I can assure you that based on the clause that I pointed out any paralegal would be able to file for the reversal of any contest, be it sports or ballet (the shit that you probably watch, and there ain't nothing wrong with that) if their boss tells them, let alone bunch of international lawyers working for the international on-line betting site. Would they do it? I'm not sure. I don't know much about betting industry. It was the first bet I placed in my life. I got a win, then quickly began to have doubts if the win would hold and decided to leave money where they were until I'm 100% sure. I'm not starving. I don't need this money now. Let them linger there.
Still I seriously doubt that election gets overturned. But if there is one thing that I learned from this election is that crazier things can happen. You obviously didn't learn shit.
I'm happy about that. Because it's much easier to deal with a "stupid asshole" then with a "smart asshole"!
There is one thing I can tell you GaG - FUCK YOU! Fuck you and your fucking embittered asshole types keened on smearing people's names just out of their sheer spite and ignorance! Because you didn't have enough smarts, instincts, or balls to place your money where your mouth was, you want to take down those that actually did so because deep inside it fucking eats you!
That's why you hide behind your alias on this forum and I don't! Because you're a chicken shit! Chicken shit on this forum and too much of coward to bet on politics! Coward has been, coward is, and I bet will croak a coward too! Fuck you asshole
and I' not talking about bitch slapping him about gambling.
So much so that he ,like the sissy boy he is, pulled one of his posts thereby removing your posts.
I'm not familiar with the person you mentioned but he has clearly embarrassed and humiliated himself and no doubt is intimidated by this person. ...............a jilted lover of his?
Thank You
LI = 5
Whatever. Nobody bitch slapped me for nothing. Wager was placed and the money were paid. The fact that I don't know the details and the lingo of betting doesn't mean that I didn't place the bet.
Nobody here anything can deny that I was anything but consistent about my sense that the race was Trump's to lose despite my support for HRC. In fact I was so sure that I even signed up for some site and placed an on-line wager.
As for the possibility of the bet reversal that GaG says is impossible we'd probably never know. But to me it just doesn't sound right and with all the information they have of me and I of them there is a straight forward track record of the bet taking place.
I bet you if a far-fetched hypothetical was actually to happen and the results of the election were reversed or nullified you'd have thousands if not millions of those who put their money on Hillary's victory filling for reconsideration of the award. You'd have lawyers advertising trying to attract those that didn't bet all that much so they could launch a class action. And in the end it all would've probably been settled for undisclosed amounts and to "everyone's satisfaction". Let's hope that we'd never know. Because if (God forbid) something like that were to happen you'd have a lot of shuts fired all over America. No matter what side you're on we really don't need that.
And followme say why there is something about your above post that makes me picture you as a toothless decrepit old hag with shaky limbs impatiently waiting for the latest gossip?
tch slapped but you got put in your place too.
Another long drawn out meaningless post. You just keep on wiggling and squirming in failed attempts to explain yourself. The more you post the deeper the hole you dig. Not only that you did not address the main point of my post.
How about you be man enough to reply to the second paragraph of my post.
As for gossip……the way you wiggled and squirmed trying to explain it, there must have been a lot of truth not gossip since you had the posts pulled like a little sissy-boy to hide the evidence, which is proof there is something to it.
You clearly have a lot to hide.
You’re Welcom
Well from decades of gambling I am POSITIVE your far fetched scenario will NOT happen, and it won't happen due to many of the reasons you cite. Don't you think an industry that sets odds and bets on how events will unfold haven't thought of this very scenario? It's the reason that once a bet has been "graded" it is irreversible, otherwise chaos would ensue every time a coach gets caught breaking the rules, his team goes on probation and their titles stripped.
There are a lot of things in the gambling world that don't make sense on the surface, here's an example that doesn't seem to make any sense, but it's true. Let me give you a scenario. You bet on a baseball game and bet the "over" on how many runs are scored. Let's say the over/under is 8 1/2 runs. Lets fast forward to the 7th inning with the score 5-4 and with the game in a rain delay. You can relax and start spending your winnings, Right? After all they've already covered the over and who cares what happens in the remaining two innings if and when play resumes, right? That what common sense would tell you, but common sense would be wrong. Even though the game is "official" after five innings have been concluded, the over/under bet needs to go 8 1/2 innings or it's a no bet.
and yes, this has happened to me. Truth be told, just about everyway you can think of to have been "screwed" on a wager and just about every "unthinkable" scenario has happened to me after all these years and countless thousands of bets, you can bet your ass I know EXACTLY what the rules are. There are two things I know a LOT about and that's hookers and gambling. Not really something you want to put on a resume, but it is what it is.
First of all, I did say that this is a really far-fetched scenario with election being overturned - it was just fun to contemplate what could happen with all the people that lost money betting on Hillary if it does.
As for betting, look, I agree with you on everything you say but since you know your gambling so well why are you arguing with someone who obviously knows next to nothing about it and obviously just went and placed some bet in a kind of off the chance sort of way? Obviously I wouldn't know nearly as much about betting as you would. As I said, I never even heard of "grading" before you brought it up.
The thing is... don't mistake ignorance for lies. I'm ignorant about many things and often jump into ponds without knowing all of the details. Sometimes I drown, sometimes I get "the beginners luck". We'll see during French election.
A side note: stock market is down for two days in a row. My two bets just bounced out on trailing %. I got to fine tune my exits...
I think it means that traders are getting tired of Trump's procrastinating with his cabinet appointments (after all of his initial activity) and all of that Romney-related nonsense. I have a feeling that stock market is going to be very Trump-dependent. Decisive Trump - up, waffling Trump - down. Trump acting "freaky" wouldn't matter.
I'll take you at your word you made and won your bet, and a small word of advice, you really should take the money out of your Pay Pal account. Pay Pal is infamous for seizing money they think came from illegal or immoral sources. A LOT of hookers have had their accounts frozen and their money confiscated for being in an "adult" business. Pay Pal currently allows limited gambling transactions with a handful of "approved" casinos, and has been doing so for about a year now, but I still would not feel 100% comfortable leaving gambling winnings in a Pay Pal account just in case they have another change in policy.
I think the market might also be doing a little profit taking, markets don't move in a straight line. I will agree the markets are VERY sensitive to what comes out of Trumps mouth and even as a Trump supporter I will readily concede you never know what the fuck is going to come out of his mouth on any given day. I do know traders of the VIX have to love him. Keep in mind Trump has to be good for traders while very nerve wracking for investors. If you are an active trader, volatility is your friend. Not so much for the buy and hold crowd. It only serves to give them ulcers. lol You've got to be flexible when events are changing as quickly as they are today. It's like rising interest rates. Prior to Trump the market was terrified of higher rates, now with Trump in office, not only is the market resigned to higher rates, but it's actually looking at higher rates as a side effect of a more robust economy, IOW they are now looking at higher rates as a "good thing" Too bad I'll never be able to explain this to Jake.lol
I already did. All this back-n-forth with you was rather unpleasant but it did leave some positive residue too in a form of information. I agree with you that if you start reversing bets based on post-factum info it would lead to chaos. But has this been litigated or is it just an industry standard? Because if that's just an industry standard it's something just waiting to be challenged in court.
Let's take this scenario that we were discussing. Let's say, for the sake of argument, the election is overturned and HRC is declared a winner. Try to convince somebody who wagered a $1 million (or more) on HRC that he has to abide by industry standards?
Here are the questions that I see right away: did I bet on Hillary winning the election or becoming president? If winning the election, what constitutes an election? In my book recount is part of the election process, i.e. "the wager", in your it maybe different. Who decides? Well, it's whether my lawyer can beat up on your lawyer or the other way around, right? 
Will chaos in the industry be one of your arguments? Sure. Will "why the industry standards should have an impact on my particular situation when I bet on HRC and in the end she ended up winning?" be one of mine? You bet.
I'm surprised that with all the reversal or nullification of scores that happened through history (1919 World Series probably being the most famous one) there appears as though there hasn't yet been a case to settle things in that regard from the judicial perspective. The losing better would be well within his rights to file for the reversal of the award and there is always at least one out there who has not only bet a lot of money on the even but is a law-suit-happy as well.
As for market, yes, you're defiantly right. I'm messing around with options a bit (only paper for now), trying to develop a winning system for myself and I think one's got to be a true ace to be able to active trade options. In my mind the stock market is very Trump sensitive. So from now on I will be too. Initially I thought that after moment's indecision it came to believe in him in general, but now I'm beginning to think that not yet. I think that if he were to appoint Romney it would soar. In fact I think it would soar if he appoints anyone but Giuliani, even Gingrich, at least initially so.
We'll see what happens.
Nobody is threatening the system. Roll over and go back to sleep.
...why didn't Hillary lead the charge? No she let Jill Stein be out on front of that train wreck. LOL
She doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself. Just ask the blue collar workers who voted for Obama then switched to Trump.
Now stop being so scared of hookers and worrying about your gas problem with them. LOL
Yes, a bit TMI out of you on that swell post. ;
He is extremely embarrassing. For sure.