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Deep state is scrambling to find a missing top-secret binder that shows how Obama's CIA set up the Russia hoax
 Taibbi and Shellenberger reporting.

This can get very Very VERY sticky 😬

Did I read something about this story several months ago? Anyway ...
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My VPN blocks all of (the new) Twitter / X with a warning about a "high security risk." I am not going to change the security settings on my TER browser.
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http://nypost.com/2024/02/13/news/cia-and-foreign-intelligence-agencies-illegally-targeted-26-trump-associates-before-2016-russia-collusion-claims-report/
CIA and foreign intelligence agencies illegally targeted 26 Trump associates before 2016 Russia collusion claims: report.
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"... Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters intelligence apparatus, or GCHQ, was making contacts with Trump’s associates as early as March 2016, according to the report. [... however ...] A GCHQ spokesperson told the outlet that claims it was “asked to conduct ‘wire tapping’ against the then president-elect are nonsense.” ..."  
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"... In response, the FBI said it had “implemented dozens of corrective actions” since the improper Trump probe and that “the missteps identified in the report could have been prevented” had the reforms been in place in 2016. ..."
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There isn't enough detail in this short article but it seems that some of the pre-2016 actions were illegal (e.g., failing to renew a search warrant before continuing the surveillance) at that time but many were not. Some of the pre-2016 actions would be illegal today but were not illegal at that time.  
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The Post also says, "The whereabouts of the ***alleged*** thick binder are unknown."  I suggest that they look in Trump's Mar-a-Lago bathroom.

Posted By: lester_prairie

Deep state is scrambling to find a missing top-secret binder that shows how Obama's CIA set up the Russia hoax  
  Taibbi and Shellenberger reporting.

Trump accused Obama of being an illegitimate President due to not being a natural born citizen. Trump had gone all in on this, for better or worse, claiming Obama was born in Kenya. I’m not sure off hand if the Supreme Court has ever ruled on this to clearly define the language of this clause of the Constitution, but after the issue nagged Obama for years he finally produced a Hawaiian birth certificate. Whether that was fake or not, I don’t know. Trump didn’t let up on this and did one of the late night comedy shows, Jimmy Kimmel I think, of “celebrities read mean tweets” and read a Trump tweet about this and said, “well at least I am a President which is something you’ll never be” or something along those lines and did a mic drop. Only for Trump to win the Presidency a few months later, making Obama look stupid. It was with that dynamic that Obama got the CIA to spy on Trump’s campaign, starting the whole Russia collusion conspiracy theory.  

 
Now if that sounds petty and ridiculous, it is. It’s like we’re governed by people with the emotional maturity of a donut.

The Obama birther thing was originally pushed by the Hillary team.

RespectfulRobert11 reads

It was a total lie from day one so of course Trump ran wild with it. You cant even condemn obvious, flagrant lies Willy? Is it that difficult?

Look, as far as I know the Supreme Court has never ruled on precisely what is a natural born citizen. If your parents are American and you’re born over seas are you a natural born citizen? If one of your parents are and the other isn’t are you a natural born citizen? I don’t know precisely what the law says here. But regardless, the issue certainly got under Obama’s skin. It seemed to piss him off enough to get the CIA to spy on Trump’s campaign.

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: "For better or worse?"
It was a total lie from day one so of course Trump ran wild with it. You cant even condemn obvious, flagrant lies Willy? Is it that difficult?
From the Article,

"Let's circle back to 2008 when Obama contested against Hillary Clinton for the presidency. Obama's campaign began to garner steam, and some Hillary fans didn't like this, so they began rumors that he was born in Kenya and transported to Hawaii to officially record his birth."

And you all just love Dear Sweet Killery...

Yes Trump went in on the northern movement. I’ve never believed that Obama was born in Kenya. The Hawaiian Birth certificate if I remember had something wrong with it and that led to the newer conspiracy theory that Obama was the son of Frank Marshall not the Kenyan.

The whole exchange where Obama roasted Trump was at the White House corespondents dinner and yeah… it was brutal. Trump was sitting there seething!  

So for you lefties you can thank Obama for trumps rise into politics!

http://youtu.be/HHckZCxdRkA?si=tWsvpYej_DbI4txU

Now if ya wanna talk about petty world leaders? Saddam Hussein, who quite literally invaded Kuwait over an insult. In the summer of 1990 Saddam Hussein sent Tariq Aziz to Kuwait to renegotiate the debt Iraq owed Kuwait from the Iran Iraq war.  

Upon his arrival in Kuwait Tariq, Aziz asked if the debt payments could be lowered or spread out, the reply from the Queerties was Gotell Saddam Hussein he’ll make the payments on time if he hast to turn every woman in Iraq into a $10 whore…

Trico Z‘s return to Iraq think he was going to get a 9 mm to the face in the middle of the conference room… When he finally stammered out the response, Saddam Hussein hit the roof did not shoot Tariq Aziz walked out mobilize the Republican guard and 48 hours later he was standing in the middle of Kuwait city no kidding  

Want more petty? After the invasion Osama bin Laden left Afghanistan, went to Saudi Arabia, sought an audience with king of Saudi Arabia. He requested that he be able to bring his Afghan fighters to the defense of Saudi Arabia to protect against the Iraqi invasion that he thought was coming. At that point everybody thought an invasion was coming, but the truth was Saddam had  calmed down and had no intention of invading Saudi Arabia. Again nobody knew that.

So OBL goes in talks to the king and gets told in no uncertain terms that his goat herder’s would not be even remotely up to the task, basically the king told him “go away kid you bother me.”  

He walks out and in the waiting area was James Baker US Secretary of State. He goes in the US deploys and we got desert shield and desert storm.  

Osama bin Laden hated the United States from that moment on! Soooo two petty people killed MILLIONS and set the Middle East on fire for two decades.

will be a wholesale slaughter of the "deep state".   That's why they are scrambling to cover their tracks on multiple fronts.  It's kind of fun to watch.  

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