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Numbrain Nikki and GOP Run the biggest Shitpiles when it comes to health delivery
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From Kaiser who tracks health care and innovates full time:

"According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, Florida is tied for first in having the largest percentage of non-elderly people making less than 139 percent of the Federal poverty line (FPL) who are uninsured, with 44 percent of this population without coverage. South Carolina is not far behind in 4th place with 39 percent of their population without insurance. These are the states where the Medicaid expansion is most critical."

All the Southern Governors who refuse to set up exchanges will have it done for them by the Feds.  That gets them up, but individuals in each state are hurt by not having the state shape the exchanges according to individual conditions in those states.

The Democrats are also to blame by desigining Obamacare based on federal state cooperation that isn't going to happen instead of a single payer system that would have been infinitely more efficient and successful.

And Timbow, if Nikki Haley is you're fucking hero--you're in hopeless territory. Wake up!
She's a clusterfuck in motion and going nowhere

800,000/9,363,941 (Approximate current population figure)=8.543411%

Source: Atlanta Buisiness Chronicle Morning Report from Families USA.

Report: More than 800K in Ga. eligible for health coverage subsidies

Carla Caldwell, Morning Call EditorMore than 800,000 Georgians will be eligible for new government subsidies in 2014 to buy coverage in a health insurance exchange, according to a new report by consumer advocacy group Families USA.

The subsidies, or tax credits, would trim the cost of insurance for individuals and families on the new exchanges set to start in January under the Affordable Care Act, reports Georgia Health News.

The report released Wednesday by Families USA, a longtime supporter of the 2010 health care law, also found that most Georgia residents who are eligible for credits are in working families and have incomes between two and four times the federal poverty level, or about $47,100 to $94,200 for a family of four, Georgia Health News said.

GHN adds that The National Federation of Independent Business and other opponents of the Affordable Care Act predict that many individuals will forgo the tax credits and remain uninsured, opting instead to pay the penalty for not having coverage.

The exchanges are one of two main ways designers of the ACA envisioned expansion of insurance coverage, GHN notes.

The other way was through states expanding Medicaid programs.

Gov. Nathan Deal says he won’t expand Medicaid.

According to some projections, Medicaid expansion would add more than 650,000 people to Georgia’s rolls, Georgia Health News reports

Gov. Nathan Deal, a moron like Gov. Rick Perry refuses Medicaid Expansion.
Perry's Texas leads the country along with California in largest # of men, women, children without access to health care.  Georgia has 19.5% of their population without access to health care.  

In time, both states will accept Medicaid expansion, possibly without these two morons for governor but it will happen.

expansion beginning in 2017 when the fed match rate drops to 90%.

     Let's take North Dakota as an example since that state was highlighted in testimony before Congress last week. The expansion will cost the state $159 million from 2017 to 2022. In Texas, with its much larger population, the number is much higher.

       So it is a bit short sighted of you to call these governors "morons" bc they do not want to raise taxes beginning in 2017 to expand Medicaid for people who are not below the poverty line.

      And, of course, we all know that Medicaid is a "broke" system now - yet you want to expand a defective system without reforming it. Even worse, many experts say there are not enough doctors who accept Medicaid patients in many areas to handle the expansion.

       Using expansion funds to buy private insurance is an intriguing but you will never cover as many people if you do this.

instead of calling the governors morons. And no you can't wait until 2017 to start the tax increase - you have got to do that now to build up the fund to pay $15 million that you will start owing when matching funds drop.

      And when Medicaid costs increase beyond the projected amount whatt do you do? You have to raise taxes even more. So not only must we all pay the new fed taxes imposed by Obamacare but we have to pay new state taxes to cover people ABOVE the poverty line who spend their money on cable TV, beer, cigarettes, and probably drive a nicer car than I do.

North Dakota government including Maggie Anderson and their legislature are not known for any significant brain power.

They just passed an abortion law that is clearly stupid because it will be quickly struck down by the federal court hierarchy, certainly by CA 8. The SD AG will waste about one million dollars stupidly defending what is clearly in violation of Roe v. Wade in a state with a high rate of education and health care deprivation.

Response to Mari on 3/16/13:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewall.asp?MessageID=206189&boardID=39#206189

Why Republican Governors are Saying Yes to Medicaid
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/02/21/why-republican-governors-are-saying-yes-to-medicaid-no-to-obamacares-exchanges/

"The Urban Institute ran the numbers and found that, if all states participate in the Medicaid expansion, it would bring $952 billion in new federal dollars to state Medicaid programs and cover 21.3 million people. For the first three years, the federal government will also cover all costs for those newly-eligible enrollees. That’s way more than it usually pays for Medicaid: The federal government typically foots somewhere between 50 and 70 percent of a state’s Medicaid bills, depending on poverty levels.

For states, the implications of this could be huge: Nearly $1 trillion in new federal funding would cover many of the medical bills that, right now, go unpaid. They’re usually picked up by hospitals or local governments, which run indigent care programs.

Or, as Scott put it in a press conference last night, “While the federal government is committed to paying 100 percent of the costs, I cannot deny Floridians who need access to health care.”

If Scott did not opt-into the new program, he foresaw himself having to explain to Floridians why their federal tax dollars would fund a Medicaid expansion in other states, but not the one where they lived.

“Our options are either having Floridians pay to fund this program in other states while denying health care to our citizens, or using federal funding to help some of the poorest in the state,” Scott said.

Scott sided with the latter option, even when declining to build a health insurance exchange. He has no back-up option, a lot of downside to sending federal tax dollars elsewhere—and a lot of upside in bringing billions in Medicaid funding into his state."

 Anderson's premise is the same as most imbecilic Republicans who are speculating on something that has never happened in the history of the U.S. as I pointed out a few weeks ago and Mari either did not read nor comprehend.

The US has never defaulted on their share of Medicaid funding in the history of the U.S.

There’s no precedent for feds dialing back Medicaid dollars
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/05/theres-no-precedent-for-feds-dialing-back-medicaid-dollars/

What states that offer total shit (i.e. no medical care)  to large populations like Georgia, Texas, and Tennessee while passing on concomitant average 2 grand to middle class nuclear families next year  
do is they deny medical care to millions who could have it.

Wonk Blog published the figures on the U.S. keeping up its predominant and predominant in the 95% range share of Medicaid funding during the entire history of Medicaid in the U.S.

Further although Mari is probably certainly not following it, the medical literature has been replete this past year that the refusal of mostly Southern states who are last in education like Georgia has been for 50 plus years, that the refusal of Medicaid expansion funding is a direct systemic threat to the inner city teaching hospitals that are the nucleus of the nations best medical schools and residency training programs like Grady, and Dallas Parkland.

Further Republicans in state legislatures are doing their best to dismantle these teaching hospitals although they are too stupid to understand that by cutting funding to them as in Georgia this year, or cutting the Homestead Tax which almost happened last week at the hands of the GOP who dominate the Georgia legislature.

Additionally for Mari's reading pleasure:

How the Medicaid Expansion Saves States Money
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/07/05/how-the-medicaid-expansion-also-saves-states-money/

Christie Will Support Medicaid Expansion
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/02/26/report-chris-christie-will-support-obamacares-medicaid-expansion/

How do the states pay for the Medicaid expansion in 2017 and the next 50 years when fed match funds drop to 90% of the cost?

      Great post about how the fed gov pays all for the next 3 years but we already knew that. Nice idea to repeat your point from your 3/16 that the fed gov has never reduced Medicaid funds but we are not talking about that either.  

The sole question is how will the states pay that 10% of the cost beginning in 2017. CAn you answer that one?

Focus, focus...

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Posted By: marikod
expansion beginning in 2017 when the fed match rate drops to 90%.  
   
      Let's take North Dakota as an example since that state was highlighted in testimony before Congress last week. The expansion will cost the state $159 million from 2017 to 2022. In Texas, with its much larger population, the number is much higher.  
   
        So it is a bit short sighted of you to call these governors "morons" bc they do not want to raise taxes beginning in 2017 to expand Medicaid for people who are not below the poverty line.  
   
       And, of course, we all know that Medicaid is a "broke" system now - yet you want to expand a defective system without reforming it. Even worse, many experts say there are not enough doctors who accept Medicaid patients in many areas to handle the expansion.  
   
        Using expansion funds to buy private insurance is an intriguing but you will never cover as many people if you do this.

From Kaiser who tracks health care and innovates full time:

"According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, Florida is tied for first in having the largest percentage of non-elderly people making less than 139 percent of the Federal poverty line (FPL) who are uninsured, with 44 percent of this population without coverage. South Carolina is not far behind in 4th place with 39 percent of their population without insurance. These are the states where the Medicaid expansion is most critical."

All the Southern Governors who refuse to set up exchanges will have it done for them by the Feds.  That gets them up, but individuals in each state are hurt by not having the state shape the exchanges according to individual conditions in those states.

The Democrats are also to blame by desigining Obamacare based on federal state cooperation that isn't going to happen instead of a single payer system that would have been infinitely more efficient and successful.

And Timbow, if Nikki Haley is you're fucking hero--you're in hopeless territory. Wake up!
She's a clusterfuck in motion and going nowhere

and internal polling within 2 days shows Colbert Busch leading Mr. Appalacian Tail meets Hershey Highway in Buenos Aires.

Will say and do anything political expediency and to stay in power.

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