Politics and Religion

I think it's time for Dr. Fauci to step down.
RespectfulRobert 550 reads
posted
1 / 16

No, Righties, not because I think he is doing a poor job for I don't. But it's been two years of his leadership during this pandemic, he often says he works 16-18 hours per day, he is now 81 years old, and it is just human nature to tune someone out after years of listening to him and I think that may be happening with the American public.
I think it is time for a younger, more dynamic man or woman to step in and take us to the finish line (whatever that looks like) and allow this man to finally rest.  
Give him his due, pat him on the back and thank him for his service to the nation for sure, but I do believe it is time for him to go.
Agree? Disagree?

inicky46 61 Reviews 46 reads
posted
2 / 16

Fauci has devoted his life to public service, public health and the public good. He's earned the right to go out on his own terms.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 24 reads
posted
3 / 16

Remember, trump kneecap him at the beginning. He wasn't able to speak truth to what really needed to be done. So he had a credibility problem under the trump administration. trump wanted a certain message from Fauci and it was hard for him to appease trump while trying to do what right. He was in a tough position...and trump didn't help him.
And if Biden was to replace him then who would Biden replace him with?  
Anyways, the way I see it, I'm totally vaccinated, I wear my mask in public places so I don't really need any more direction...it is what it is. If we can't follow these simple guidelines than we have a problem and no new messenger is gonna change that.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 23 reads
posted
4 / 16

But you're a nut. I wouldn't read to follow anything you post. See, you're the worst of our sociality...in other words, you're the problem. I wish I could give you a quarter so you can call someone who gives a fuck....adios.

RespectfulRobert 52 reads
posted
5 / 16

No, I know you are not saying that. lol.  
But, like I said,  the man is 81 and it is an exhausting job. Much like political advisors need to step down after a long run to change the narrative, so do political appointees at times.  
And let's not overlook the political implications either. Joe is under water and not polling well at all. A big part of that is due to Covid and his handling of same.
Joe promised the nation when he was running against Trump that he would get Covid under control. It isn't. Someone needs to be held responsible in the eyes of many. This is an election year. Let's start acting like it.  
I just don't see any upside of keeping him on at this point.

RespectfulRobert 23 reads
posted
6 / 16

But Willy agreeing with me makes me want to reevaluate my stance on this issue! lol

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 22 reads
posted
7 / 16

Not sure if replacing Fauci would be a political benefit or if keeping him will be a liability. And what kinda message could this person make or change? Will this new person with his messaging make republicans get vaccinated? No message from this new person will change that.
A shake up for the sake of a shake up sometimes may not work. At this stage, I'm all for keeping him.

impposter 49 Reviews 31 reads
posted
8 / 16

Fauci's position is NOT a political appointment position. That's the reason that Trump couldn't fire him.  
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Chronological age doesn't align uniformly with skills, abilities, cognition, "wisdom," etc..  
Trump is 75: person, woman, man, camera, tv.
Biden is 78 and still a stutterer.

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: Are you really saying we don't have a capable person in the whole country to replace him?
No, I know you are not saying that. lol.  
 But, like I said,  the man is 81 and it is an exhausting job. Much like political advisors need to step down after a long run to change the narrative, so do political appointees at times.  
 And let's not overlook the political implications either. Joe is under water and not polling well at all. A big part of that is due to Covid and his handling of same.  
 Joe promised the nation when he was running against Trump that he would get Covid under control. It isn't. Someone needs to be held responsible in the eyes of many. This is an election year. Let's start acting like it.  
 I just don't see any upside of keeping him on at this point.

gentleguy1020 38 Reviews 45 reads
posted
9 / 16

He is the only one with enviable amount of experience with this type viral attacks and spreads.

Don’t fall for righty bull shit!

RespectfulRobert 19 reads
posted
10 / 16

But if Joe talks to him privately and says he didn't think Fauci's service was needed any longer, Fauci would certainly step down. It wouldn't be a firing per se, but more of an asking, privately, for his resignation.  Valid point however.

Beefman69 16 Reviews 23 reads
posted
11 / 16

I am not a FAN of Fauci-he needs to go. There are many more qualified epidemiologist in this country that can easily feel his shoes.

 
FYI, I am not fan of Read Paul either.

 
I am for term limit for judges, congress members, senators, elected officials or career officials like Fauci who believe that they should die on a JOB.

cks175 52 Reviews 33 reads
posted
12 / 16

Fauci is a mercurial public figure. Many hate him, many adore him. You make some good non-political points on why Fauci should retire, but his retirement, especially one encouraged by Biden, would have big political repercussions.  

His supporters, generally consisting of Biden’s base, would see it as nothing but a betrayal. His detractors would see it as evidence that the Biden administration was admitting failure in the fight against Covid-19.

impposter 49 Reviews 32 reads
posted
13 / 16

The head of HHS under Trump was Alex Azar, a political appointee. The head of the CDC under Trump was Robert Redfield, a political appointee. Redfield had the authority to fire Fauci. As I recall, there was talk that Trump was going to pressure Redfield to fire Fauci but that there would be pushback from Redfield or that Redfield would threaten to resign. (Such maneuvering might have happened behind the scenes.)
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There were occasions when Redfield would make science-based announcements about the CDC's position on masks, social distancing, vaccines, etc. and Trump would then contradict Redfield in a tweet or news conference.

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: Technically speaking, you are correct! Good catch Imposter! My bad.
But if Joe talks to him privately and says he didn't think Fauci's service was needed any longer, Fauci would certainly step down. It wouldn't be a firing per se, but more of an asking, privately, for his resignation.  Valid point however.

inicky46 61 Reviews 14 reads
posted
14 / 16

That's on China. What we DO blame Trump for is lying to us that it would "be gone in a few weeks," then "gone by Easter," then "gone by summer." All the while being ON TAPE with Woodward about how deadly it really is. He caused thousands of needless deaths.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 24 reads
posted
15 / 16

So everyone can see what has happened and what is going on.   It is very entertaining to see how is fights back and forth with Senator Rand Paul.  I was fun eating the popcorn.

impposter 49 Reviews 27 reads
posted
16 / 16

As an employee of the US Gov, Fauci's work product belongs to the US Gov, hence, the Citizens of the USA. Fauci may appear on a patent as an INVENTOR, but the ASSIGNEE (i.e., the patent owner) is the US Gov. Here is info from one of Fauci's HIV patents:
INVENTORS: A-----; J----- (Bethesda, MD), G-----; D----- (Bellingham, MA), C-----; C------ (Bethesda, MD), Fauci; Anthony S. (Bethesda, MD)
Applicant: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, as represented by the Secretary, Department of Health and Human Services, Washington, DC, US  
ASSIGNEE: The United States of America, as Represented by the Secretary, Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC)  
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When the NIH collaborates with outside groups, the patents rights are split between the USA and the other parties, subject to negotiations based on who did what percentage of the work or important parts. Frequently, the "other parties" are universities and other non-profits.

Posted By: DaveMogal
Re: Good for him to stay.
So everyone can see what has happened and what is going on.   It is very entertaining to see how is fights back and forth with Senator Rand Paul.  I was fun eating the popcorn.

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