I suppose Fox News is in the tank for Obama too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wup4nsIWe8A

I suppose Dick Morris is in the tank for Obama as well...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0908/Dick_Morriss_grudging_compliments.html


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whereas McBush looked flustered, was so hostile, & kept making goofy faces all night....He never even looked at Obama the entire 97 minutes or so of the debate....

Obama was very knowledgable on both topics: the economic crisis & foreign policy....

Sorry GA Gambler, your guy lost last night....

Yep, definitely got to give the substance points to Senator Obama, asw ell as more than a few style points as well.

McCain did look and sometimes sound flustered, but I think, given the goods he's selling, he made as strong a case as was possible for his positions, such as they are.  Could McCain have been thinking, couldn't the damn economic meltdown happen aftertheelection?

I suspectthat Senator McCain hasa visceral dislike for Senator Obama, perhaps thinking him a young punk who has not sufficiently paid his dues?  And probably not helped by Seantor Obama's frequently address of Senator McCain as "John."  And I never realized how much MCcain's voice sounds like that of the late President Reagan.  Or maybe it was just too many gins-and-tonic on my end.

I think one of the more enlightening Prez debates of my life.

where the heck did you have YOUR dial turned, Moose?
That is sure not what my TV showed ME!  And i shall tell you another thing, any "president material" who wont salute the flag or honor AMERICA or HONOR our men who died to honor this country, well, that about TELLS everyone what kind of person YOU are. tata. tit for tat.

haha. oh yeah. let me tell you....smooth talker my arse!  the bamaman cant even stutter the words outta his thick lips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRZX_ndZN-g&feature=related

Obama ahead in every poll on who won the debate.

Obama ahead in every national tracking poll.

Obama ahead in every electoral map projection.

Happy to provide links to all of the above if you need it.

as far as Obama not saluting the flag or honoring America, you've been listening to toooo much right wing radio (and GA Gambler thinks I'M partsian!)...

BTW, most viewers on the CBS poll gave Obama high marks....

"the bamaman cant even stutter the words outta his thick lips."


Well done. You just gave the people who think many, maybe most, white voters oppose Obama on grounds which are in part racist.

But you didn't misspell any words. Not bad for an ignorant fuckhead.

Polls called in about about the debate do not mean crap
AS Lou Dobbs and Bill Schninder just sais and laughed about it ! Reason mostly DEMS call in

As to flag pins and what they symbolize, McCain has nothing to prove.  His X-rays of broken bones shows what he thinks of the U.S.

On the other hand, I am sure that it makes Obama grit his teeth to have to wear the flag pin.  If it had never been an issue, he would have preferred not to wear it.

It is what you call pandering, and rather shallow pandering at that.

I will stipulate that Obama did rather well in the first half of the debate, or more accurately McCain did poorly. McCain did not look comfortable at all and did a rather poor job.

McCain owned the second half however, the difference in experience could not have been plainer. Obama looked like a teenager getting schooled in the ways of the world and his weakness on the issues was quite obvious. McCain not only knew the issues, he knew the players and they know him. His experience was evident and Obama's foolish attempt to bring Kissinger into the mix backfired on him badly.

Overall I would give McCain the edge, but only slightly.

Sorry Moosie, but all the koolaid in the world won't make up for the fact that your guy just isn't ready to be POTUS.

more of these moronic debates to keep you  media watchers busy so why give a fuck about who won or lost? Is there a prize for the winner?

There's only one poll that matters at all, and that happens on a particular day in November.

I won the debate!!

I had both Sarah "PigLips" Palin over with Cindy (who brought the beer, of course) and we had a great menage a trois during the debate.  I think between the two, Sarah won because she agreed to some greek & a grand BBBJTCIMNQNS finale!

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And no, the Kissenger thing didn't backfire at all:

From Bloomberg, (3/14):
Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said the U.S. should negotiate directly with Iran over its nuclear program and other bilateral issues. "One should be prepared to negotiate, and I think we should be prepared to negotiate about Iran,'' Kissinger, who brokered the end of the 1973 Yom Kippur war and peace talks with the North Vietnamese, said yesterday in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Asked whether he meant the U.S. should hold direct talks, Kissinger, 84, responded: "Yes, I think we should.''

And from from CNN, (9/20):
Kissinger: "Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we -- we know we're dealing with authentic..." Sesno: "Put at a very high level right out of the box?"

Sorry Gambler, McCain is fine in the senate, but he is in NO WAY! ready for prime time....

The Palin pick might be enough to do him in..

Oh & BTW, his response about ethanol subsidies will definitely not help him in Iowa (which he will almost certainly lose for several reasons), Indiana, & Ohio...