fucked that city long before the Koch brothers did anything. You sound like a person complaining because someone dropped the corpse on the floor.
Think I will file this under WHO GIVES A SHIT.
Something doesn't add up. These guys would not (or perhaps should not) be stupid enough to store this material in the open without a permit. But if they did it is a crime and they should and will incur a large penalty.
But to clarify, pet coke is not a "waste", it is the portion of crude oil which can't be processed into a liquid product. It is in no way specific to Canadian crude, or bitumen for that matter. It is sold for fuel use overseas, although some higher quality pet coke is used in other applications. Canadian crude pet coke happens to be pretty high in sulfur content which even further limits who can use it. And the statement that Keystone XL will bring in more is misleading at a minimum as refiners would find an alternate heavy crude oil to replace oil not available vis Keystone.
I could be wrong.
But to clarify, pet coke is not a "waste", it is the portion of crude oil which can't be processed into a liquid product. It is in no way specific to Canadian crude, or bitumen for that matter. It is sold for fuel use overseas, although some higher quality pet coke is used in other applications. Canadian crude pet coke happens to be pretty high in sulfur content which even further limits who can use it. And the statement that Keystone XL will bring in more is misleading at a minimum as refiners would find an alternate heavy crude oil to replace oil not available vis Keystone.
Why would the most sophisticated refineries in the world in the US Gulf Coast export the heavy tar sands oil and import more expensive crude oil and/or process more expensive domestic crude oil?
Through May of this year the US Gulf Coast (PADD III) had imported 553,000,000 barrels of crude oil, almost 50% of the crude oil refined there.
The product will be refined in Texas.
Will America be the consumer of this petroleum?
I thought it was to be shipped over seas?
If this oil is refined for American consumption, couldn't there be new refineries built closer to the Canadian border?
In the event the pipeline is not approved, will the tar sands be exported from the west coast?
...and if that happens will tar sands be shipped unrefined
I think the Tar sand oil will find a home somewhere, via keystone or some other pipeline, perhaps off the west coast of Canada. But, the tar sands oil must be processed to some degree in order to remove the sand, and also reduce the viscosity so the pumps can move it via pipelines.
the volume that could be moved via train is pretty small compared to the production potential
Than an expanded pipeline. The tar sands will still have to refined, then sold overseas.
Trains can be modified to carry more volume at a faster pace than a pipeline.
as I recall the potential increase in Canadian Oil production was between 1 and 2 million barrels per day
The only thing I was talking about ,there is competition to the XL pipeline and Gulf coast refineries.
This is great news for Jindal as a GOP presidential nominee.
my point is there is a lot more oil coming if everything is developed and I don't think rail can handle that much of it (over and above what is handled today)
No offense, but do you have any experience in moving crude oil by train. I know of one operation which requires ~50 railcars to move 10,000 barrels per day. The space to load and unload that many cars is large! Moving that many cars to a refinery on rails also used by other freight and commuter operations requires close scheduling. Perhaps with dedicated tracks a large volume could be moved, but that may be problematic near a big city.
I wouldn't underestimate the speed of rail construction, nor would I overestimate the space needed to offload a train.
Well it's hard to track specific molecules through refineries, but the Gulf Coast does export products. The world needs the products, the Gulf Coast can produce them most efficiently (at least on the margin), and frankly in my opinion the Gulf Coast refining system would have to reduce capacity of product was not exported as there would be lower revenues but essentially constant operating expense.