what if specific categories (boys, girls, and those who are confused) are mixed evenly throughout the population, and it's just Republicans who get their thrills denying shit, lying, cheating & stealing?
Actually, I think we'll find that just as many Dems get off that way, too.
The key word in your post, zinaval... is "religion".
I do not for one moment truly believe the phenomenon of pastoral pederasty is a political ploy by perverted pols to play with peoples perceptions. (oh! the alliteration!)
Sexual deviance is not the exclusive perview of Democrats, Republicans, or even Communists. It's a mindset of religious repression imbued into the brains of young children who have been raised in a religious environment where Dogma prevails.
What is Dogma?
To the Jew its Biblical Belief.
To the Christian, its Evangelical Expression.
To the Sharia Muslims, its Quranic Compliance.
In all three of the worlds leading monotheistic religions, there is an emphasis on Lordly Dominion and Gods Word.
To me, its all bullshit, and a concerted effort by the few to continue to control the masses.
And control them they do with propaganda, demonization, and the FEAR OF GOD INSTILLED INTO YOU BY THE VIRTUE OF ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THAT IS HOLY LEMME HEAR YOU SAY HALLELLOOOOOOOOOYA!
Let me remind you of a fiery preacher out of the 60's and 70's named Reverend Ike.
IF YOU WANT PIE IN THE SKY BY AND BY WHEN YOU DIE THEN THE REVEREND IKE IS ***NOT*** YOUR MAN!!!
BUT IF YOU WANT TO REAP THE EARTHLY REWARDS OF A LIFE OF COMMUNION WITH GAWWWD, THEN SEND YOUR DONATIONS TO THE REVEREND IKE AND HE WILL PRAAAAAAY YOUR SOUL TO BE REWARDED WITH AMPLITUTES OF MULTITUDES OF MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!
Reverend Ike received an average of $100,000 a WEEK in donations nationwide, and had a fleet of luxury cars that would embarrass Jay Leno.
Nonetheless, the Most Reverend Ike was caught fucking a hooker using money donated by little old ladies from Pasadena, and to this day, continues to operate his con from a nondescript building in Brookline.
Forty Years later, we have the Vatican and their Church of the Blessed Pedophile, Ted Haggard the METH-odist, and the daily news cornucopia of predatory pastors and their hypocritical adventures, not to mention an arms-length long list of preachers and televangelists who have been caught in any numbers of lies and deceit.
Religion; the biggest enemy of mankinds progress in existence today.
This isn't about political perceptions, its about the utter blatant hypocrisy and lies promulgated by religion.
here's a link to a portal page delineating many of the crimes and deceptions of the CHRISTIAN Televangelists.
http://www.rickross.com/groups/tv_preachers.html
What is it about Bible Belters?; are they THAT foolish as to be led like lemmings over a cliff?
And to think, we, Hubris-filled Americans have the audacity to call the Muslims fools for believing the lies of their religion, when the truth is, America has become one of the most backwards thinking religious entities in the modern world. All thanks to Televangelist lies.
No wonder all these priests fuck children... they're merely following the dictates of their religious indoctrination, and taking example from their teachers... teachers like Reverend Ike, Jimmy Swaggart, the Bakkers, the Catholic Church, Ted Haggard, Ralph Reed and the Rest of the Religious Reprobates.
The Truth is too overwhelming to fit inside your head, but Religion is a virus of the mind. Left untreated, it will destroy you from the inside out.
Save the Cheerleader, Save the World!
Though, what surprises me is how consistent what you've said is turning out to be. It also means that the conservative Christians are going to be a drag on Republicans, and whatever political party "owns" them will have drunk poison.
We might be seeing an end to politically active conservative Christians. For them, the high-profile is the worst thing, so it might be mutual.
Maybe it's premature, but if it is happening, the US, and yes, the world will be better for it.
Now, if only the same thing would begin to happen in Islam...
Here's the essential problem: The teaching of hatred for others is ingrained within the HOLIEST writings and literatures of all three major monotheistic religions.
We know the Muslims perception of Jews from the words of the Qu'ran itself... monkeys and pigs.
{referring to Jews} He has made some as apes and swine..." Koran 5:60)
And of course, is there anyone who reads this forum that is not familiar with the great Christian Crusades throughout European history, crusades which saw the murder of millions of innocent people in the name of Jesus.
But how many of you are aware of the Old Testaments teaching the Hebrews how to kill every last man woman and child of the Amalakites?
"Now go and smite Amalek, and exterminate everything that is his. Don't pity him, but kill man, woman, infant and nursling, ox, sheep, camel and ass." [SAMUEL 15:2-3]
Religion in its purest dogmatic form teaches intolerance and hatred.
- Arabs teach their children that Jews are animals
- Christian leaders use lies and deception and simply REEK of hypocrisy. Especially where sex is concerned!
- Jewish children are taught to kill every last Amalekite.
Hatred is not genetic, it is taught. Hypocrisy is not genetic. Its indicative of a lack of integrity. Duh.
Stop teaching hate, start acting with integrity, find some common ground, and then maybe we can talk. Until then, no "road map" will ever lead anywhere but down.
Religion is the enemy of progress.
you can quote me on that.
There's so much variation in every religion that it's obvious people can interpret it any way they want. The texts are always so old and origin obscure that they're a political & social Rohrsach test.
The problem is more the way people choose to interpret it. There's always monks who go off and deal with it personally; but there's also always groups who choose to use it as a political tool.
The problem is that groups that use religion as a political tool are very competitive in the sense that it's an easy and effective way to set people against each other. Think of it as population control, which would of course be a serious problem if people didn't compete seriously.
And do you doubt that rationalists will compete by telling people who can and cannot reproduce? And do you think that they'll be any better at it than the Soveits were with economics??
People bring to these scriptures what they want to see; usually turn a blind eye or consider what they don't like consider whole sections to be a "dead letter." This includes fundamentalists who apply old testament teachings about homosexuality, but don't follow the kosher laws, don't apply the dress code, and don't circumsize themselves.
The character of Yahweh/Jehova/Allah is an insane, demented, forgetful, vain and murderous thing. He strikes people down by the tens of thousands. Even with the trinity to blur this, there is no way around this fact. Look at the Bible, how many "plans" has this character had, starting with the Garden of Eden: plan A. By the time you get to the 2nd Covenant, he has changed plans 5 times, never for a good reason, either.
He commanded Saul to murder the Amelikites, and had Saul killed when he showed some mercy. The Amelikites, BTW, occur again in the book of Esther; they are not considered extinct by Orthodox Jews. To this day, Orthodox Jews follow the command to *murder* Amelikites "on sight."
It might be a fiction, but this is approving of genocide-- as a policy.
These scriptures were originally a political tool, but the tribes and nations they refer to have long since passed away. Believers trying to reinterpret scripture strictly come up with the most twisted and bizarre politics, not to mention bizarre, demented behavior.
The think problem is not be with religion itself. Unlike many atheists, I'm convinced that humankind will always have religions. I would contend, though, that the problems are inherent in scriptural based religions. This goes back to where reading and writing were rare skills, and setting something down in writing inspired awe. This awe could then be used to leverage influence.
This lingering awe of scripture destroys flexibility of reasoning and freeze religions in moral laws that are out of date by a millennium or more.
it will shift form to accomodate what people are comfortable with. Windows/information technology may be big someday, but for the next few millenia, I think that psychiatry has it locked up. The old conventional theistic stuff staarted dying with Galileo, and the 20th century pretty much ruined it. Birth control, nuclear devices, all that stuff makes it too hard to believe the Pope or anything written in Elizabethan English, let alone some obscure mideast dead language.
