Politics and Religion

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coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 457 reads
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1 / 31

67% of the vote counted.  Some interesting results so far  . . . .

 
1.  Klobuchar has more votes than Biden and Warren combined.

 
2.  Yang has already ended his campaign after his 2+% finish.

 
3.  Sanders is only leading Buittigieg by 2.5 percentage points.

 
4.  Buttigieg is leading Sanders in five of ten counties.   Sanders took all ten counties against Clinton in 2016.

inicky46 61 Reviews 26 reads
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2 / 31

Amy has broken through, comfortably in the top 3 while Liz has tanked, with half the support Amy has. This could be a game changer.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 24 reads
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3 / 31

I think she will.   Biden will stay in and the primaries throughout the South should be really interesting between him and Bernie.  I smell a brokered convention coming.  

JackDunphy 38 reads
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4 / 31

Bernie has now won.

 
Warren's dismal showing in a neighboring state will force her out much sooner than thought.  

 
This paves the way for Bern to take all the Left wing vote when she does and the moderate vote will be divided between Pete, Biden, Amy And Bloomberg.  

 
It will take quite awhile for the moderate wing to narrow down to 1 candidate to take on Bernie and by then it may be too late.  

 
If that wasnt bad enough, a Bernie vs Bloomberg final would cause civil war in the party and divide it hopelessly.  

 
Can you imagine a Marxist vs an ex-Republican, white, billionaire, corporatist, elitist, male, racist, Wall Streeter with #metoo problems?

 
#ThereIsntEnoughPopcornInTheWorld

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 26 reads
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5 / 31

people start dropping out and that leaves disenfranchised voters who have lost their candidate flailing around trying to pick someone else.  That's what happened to the GOP in 2012.  Romney was the last man standing, but Huckabee would have given Obama a better run for his money, but still would have probably lost.

JackDunphy 42 reads
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6 / 31

What in the world makes you think he will even make it to Super Tuesday? He has finished 4th in Iowa and a dismal 5th tonight.

 
His money will trickle and his endorsements will slow or end. He won't win Nevada. He is toast.

inicky46 61 Reviews 35 reads
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7 / 31

Liz won't drop out and Biden isn't toast. But if he can't recoup in Nevada and SC, THEN he's toast.
Now we'll see what Mike can do, if anything.
Funny neither of you mentioned Amy. She's as big a story as Bernie.

inicky46 61 Reviews 33 reads
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8 / 31

Jesus! Go clean your shorts. It's only one primary and it's of the state NEXT DOOR to Bernie. He HAD to take it. And he only barely did.
Amy should be a bigger story.
Now please go rub some lidocaine on your dick.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 20 reads
posted
9 / 31

has enough national recognition to come out on top, but I will hand it to her that tonight's result was both surprising and impressive.  However, at a brokered convention, her hat would probably be in the ring.

JackDunphy 41 reads
posted
10 / 31

She is going NO where.

 
And Biden had a 14% chance of winning the nomination BEFORE tonights fiasco, per 538.

 
Please leave my dick out of your comments... and out of your dreams.

followme 24 reads
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11 / 31

True he is done but I'm sure he will stay in it as long as the money lasts, which is not long.

He will them take a page or two from the Hilary book of excuses of why he lost and blame everyone else  
but himself.

2020 = GOP

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 39 reads
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12 / 31

The trick for Bernie is not "winning" with 25 or 30% -- he needs an average of 51%, otherwise he doesn't win it on the first ballot and then the Super Delegates get to vote.  Then it is just a slug fest until the establishment candidate gets selected.  Though I think it will go to whoever came in second to Bernie (I'm not predicting who that will be.)

JackDunphy 32 reads
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13 / 31

1.    Bernie           55%

2.    Biden            15%

T3   Bloomberg  10%
       Buttigieg      10%

T5  Klobuchar      5%
      Warren           5%

impposter 49 Reviews 37 reads
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14 / 31

I think that the primary-ing and candidacy rules changed bigly in the early 1970s. Jimmy Carter's campaign understood the new rules very well and won the Dem nomination.  
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I say, bring back the days of the "smoke filled rooms."  There would have been some different nominees in the last 45 years, and maybe some big losers, but we surely would NEVER have had Trump.  
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(This is somewhat correlated to earlier posts (over the past few years) about the need to have an educated electorate.  "An educated electorate is the greatest defense of Democracy."  "Smart voters elect smart leaders."  In the same vein, Facebook, Twitter, et sim have become potent enemies of such a democracy.)

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: It happens a lot . . .
people start dropping out and that leaves disenfranchised voters who have lost their candidate flailing around trying to pick someone else.  That's what happened to the GOP in 2012.  Romney was the last man standing, but Huckabee would have given Obama a better run for his money, but still would have probably lost.

impposter 49 Reviews 26 reads
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15 / 31

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: I don't think Amy . . .
has enough national recognition to come out on top, but I will hand it to her that tonight's result was both surprising and impressive.  However, at a brokered convention, her hat would probably be in the ring.
Won't many candidates, the low-percenters, stay in races where they think they can scrape up a few delegates for that very purpose (brokered convention)?

JackDunphy 29 reads
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16 / 31

So you would rather have a bunch of anonymous elitists DICTATE to the people who the nominees of each party would be RATHER than the DEMOCRATIC process of having the people making those decisions???  

 
This just in Imp: They only do that in totalitarian states and the last episode of Game of Thrones.  

 
Imp, PLEASE buy or rent a clue and do so soon. PLEASE!

 
#OfcourseIwasJokingJack

inicky46 61 Reviews 50 reads
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17 / 31

I thought CNN was a DNC mouthpiece. Oh, right, that's what Hack says when it suits his argument. But when he agrees with what CNN says, all of a sudden it's gospel.
Hack = Hypocrite.

inicky46 61 Reviews 41 reads
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18 / 31

She promised to make you come out of the closet. And she even promised to make you clean the jizz out of your tighty-whities. Hell, I'd promise to vote for President Dump if he'd offered that.
As for your dick, I don't comment on anything that tiny.
Admit it Hack. You're gay. It will be so liberating for you.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 48 reads
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19 / 31

before or after the NH results last night?

impposter 49 Reviews 26 reads
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21 / 31

Posted By: JackDunphy
Re: Imp, please tell me you are just kidding.
So you would rather have a bunch of anonymous
I am not anonymous.
elitists DICTATE to the people who the nominees of each party would be RATHER than the DEMOCRATIC process of having the people making those decisions???  
   
   
 This just in Imp: They only do that in totalitarian states and the last episode of Game of Thrones.  
   
   
 Imp, PLEASE buy or rent a clue and do so soon. PLEASE!  
   
   
 #OfcourseIwasJokingJack

JackDunphy 35 reads
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22 / 31

They wont have the money to do so plus the party would place tons of pressure on them to get out so someone can challenge The Bern as he is the Dims biggest nightmare.

JackDunphy 31 reads
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23 / 31

1.Bernie                              36%
2. Brokered Convention   36%
3. Biden                               17%
4. Buttigieg                           5%
5. Bloomberg                       4%
6. Warren                             3%

 
This has to scare you if you are a Dem. Almost 3 in 4 chance it's Bernie or a contested convention? Sheez...

GaGambler 23 reads
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24 / 31

Under the Dem system ALL candidates getting at least 15% of the vote in any given state get at least "some" delegates making it that much harder for any one candidate in a three or four person race to reach that magic number of 1990 delegates to win on the first ballot.

 
Even if Pocahontas drops out, the socialist faction of the party is only about 40%, leaving 60% of the vote going to the so called moderate candidate. In a three or even four way race, it's very likely that at least three candidates are going to get delegates in every state making it that much harder for any one of them to reach that magic number of 1990. The longer Pocahontas stays in the less likely it is for Bernie to reach that number and the longer there are at least three, or even two so called moderates in the race the less likely it is that anyone of them are going to come anywhere close to 1990 delegates. Trump was able to win the nomination with a simple plurality of the vote under the GOP system, it's going to be tough for any Democrat to do the same with the super delegates sitting on the sideline until the second ballot.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 18 reads
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25 / 31

The theory being put forward by some who think Bernie will win is that democrats are like lemmings and will jump on the bandwagon of whoever seems to be eeking out ahead.  If that is not true, yeah, it is hard to see how Bernie gets passed the second vote.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 23 reads
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26 / 31

Trump got an incredible GOP turnout in NH.  He got over 120,000 votes.   That's for an incumbent where there is no real contest.  No big reason for anyone to drag their ass off the couch and go vote for the only real candidate.

Historically Obama as an incumbent, got 49,000 votes in 2012.    Bush got 54,000 in 2004.  Clinton got 77,000 in 1996. And Reagan got 65,000 in 1984.

So Trump essentially got almost double the turnout of any incumbent in history.

This means something.  I am not sure what.  But it means something.

followme 25 reads
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27 / 31

I am hoping for a brokered, dem, convention however I heard one report a few days ago the DNC may again change their rules.  
I heard that the DNC may include “super delegates” voting  in the first ballot.  If they do that then who ever the DNC wants will be the nominee on the first ballot.

 
We all know “super delegates” are bought and paid for lackeys who have no courage or integrity and do what they are told.

 
I have no prediction as to who they will be told to vote for but I’m sure it will not be Bernie.  

 

2020 = GOP

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 26 reads
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28 / 31

Reagan in 1984 set the historical incumbent GOP high at 86.43%.  Trump's 85% is statistically insignificantly different.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 14 reads
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29 / 31

is not going to get a large number of Dems and Independents to go with his 85%, you have not been paying attention to the REAL news.  Fake news is glossing over this story.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 53 reads
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30 / 31

that Tom Steyer spent $1900 in NH per vote that he got?  He's rich, but how long do you think he can keep that up?

Once-Is-Not-Enough 27 reads
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31 / 31


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