I just saw an old bumper sticker that said, "I love my country. It is my government I don't trust." On the other bumper was "Obama-Biden 2008."
Two years ago it was "regime change starts at home," "Not my government," and a dozen other mottos. Google "Bush/Nazi," "Bush/fascits," or "Bush/ war criminal." what is it 500,000 hits? Each? I won't even bother. It's a lot.
Okay, Obama didn't say it, but he was running for president as the head honcho of the Dems. Did he once say, "This rhetoric is not helpful?"
When the NAACP planned to picket JFK, NIXON - that's right - NIXON urged them not to do it. He said it was not productive to picket speeches. Ironically, when there were vehement ads against JFK in Dallas on Nov 21st, Nixon spoke out agaist them saying the rhetoric as not good.
JFK was Nixon's opponent and Nixon stood up for JFK against excessive rhetoric. And Obama.......?
Obama was willing to ride the coat tails of "It's the government I distrust" and "regime change begins at home." Poor baby. I feel so sad about the nasty things those mean people say.
At some time you have to tell your people that rhetoric is over heated before you castigate your oppenents for the identical words. Otherwise, you look like a two-faced opportunist.
Think about that. Nixon would be crucified by today's rabid right-wingers. That's now far to the right the political 'center' has moved in the US.
Now as for your puking-
in June of 08, "Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Monday, in a major speech on patriotism, criticized MoveOn.org for referring to Gen. David Petraeus as General Betray Us last year. The Illinois senator said politics too often seems "trapped in old, threadbare arguments" that he called "caricatures of left and right." The Democrat argued that "given the enormous challenges that lie before us, we can no longer afford these sorts of divisions."
Oops! What was that about a double standard there? Maybe you jsut don't pay attention to people with whom you disagree? Nah, that couldn't be it, could it?
He takes a viscious attack on an American hero that the polls show has 85% approval rate (estimate), and he questions that.
WOW and WOW and WOW. Come down on the side of the vast majority. How brave.
Let's see: How many times did he speak against the MoveOn.Org ad morphing Bush into Hitler. (Hint. Sounds like Nero)
And the tone of the entire campaign: How many times did he tell his supporters to negate their rhetoric?
Yeah, during the campaign there was one incident of high level publicity that he spoke about. And then look what he did to Hillary who told Petreus that he was engaging in "a willing suspension of disbelief."
He makes her Secretary of State.
I don't know how far to the right Nixon would be. He did not support the status quo of a peaceful co-existence with Cuba and attacked JFK for cutting a deal that promised we would not undermine Cuba.
In any event, Obama's ranking pre-election places him further from the center of the Dems. Bill Clinton was the centerist with Democratic Leadership Council which was premised on the Dems should shift from their leftist fringe.
Question: When it came to a choice between candiddate Obama speaking to DailyKoz or DLC,which one, yes one, did he go to. The fringe.
In the last few days every adjective in the book from Nazi, fascist, apartheid, et al as been used to describe AZ. How many times has the president said, "Nazi" is not the right word to describe AZ?" (hint. sounds like hero)
In any event, can you honestly tell me that that as the de facto head of the Dems he has made any effort to tamp down rhetoric from his side?
No. He can dish out the heat, but he can't take it. Poor baby.
that I was talking about the ten thousand other times. I recognized the one time that he did say something once when there was a fireball of publicity surrounding and American hero of tremendous popularity.
I was asking if he had anything to say about any of the other constant barrages of extreme rhetoric.
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Just to get current, has he asked people to tamp down Nazi, Fascist, apartheid rhetoric?
Ask one question, get an answer you don't like, and then claim you were actually making a different point.
However, in answer to your oblique question/implication-
From a speech at the U OF Michigan just last week-
Throwing around phrases like 'socialists' and 'Soviet-style takeover,' 'fascists' and 'right-wing nut' -- that may grab headlines," he said. But it also "closes the door to the possibility of compromise. It undermines democratic deliberation," (Obama) said.
From an interview on CBS in April-
"I do think that everybody has a responsibility, Democrats or Republicans, to tone down some of this rhetoric."
From an April speech to Wall Street folks-
“We’re getting closer to agreement,” he told Bloomberg Television after the speech. “So elevated rhetoric really doesn’t do any good in terms of getting there.” (The context definitely refers to both parties)
It wouldn't take much research to find lots of other examples. If you'd bother getting your info from some source other than the usual right wing echo chamber sources, maybe you could answer your own non-questions.
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