Politics and Religion

Murtha
saltyballs 2895 reads
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To My Conservative Brothers and Sisters,

I know you are dismayed and disheartened at the results of last week's election. You're worried that the country is heading toward a very bad place you don't want it to go. Your 12-year Republican Revolution has ended with so much yet to do, so many promises left unfulfilled. You are in a funk, and I understand.

Well, cheer up, my friends! Do not despair. I have good news for you. I, and the millions of others who are now in charge with our Democratic Congress, have a pledge we would like to make to you, a list of promises that we offer you because we value you as our fellow Americans. You deserve to know what we plan to do with our newfound power -- and, to be specific, what we will do to you and for you.

Thus, here is our Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives:

Dear Conservatives and Republicans,

I, and my fellow signatories, hereby make these promises to you:

1. We will always respect you for your conservative beliefs. We will never, ever, call you "unpatriotic" simply because you disagree with us. In fact, we encourage you to dissent and disagree with us.

2. We will let you marry whomever you want, even when some of us consider your behavior to be "different" or "immoral." Who you marry is none of our business. Love and be in love -- it's a wonderful gift.

3. We will not spend your grandchildren's money on our personal whims or to enrich our friends. It's your checkbook, too, and we will balance it for you.

4. When we soon bring our sons and daughters home from Iraq, we will bring your sons and daughters home, too. They deserve to live. We promise never to send your kids off to war based on either a mistake or a lie.

5. When we make America the last Western democracy to have universal health coverage, and all Americans are able to get help when they fall ill, we promise that you, too, will be able to see a doctor, regardless of your ability to pay. And when stem cell research delivers treatments and cures for diseases that affect you and your loved ones, we'll make sure those advances are available to you and your family, too.

6. Even though you have opposed environmental regulation, when we clean up our air and water, we, the Democratic majority, will let you, too, breathe the cleaner air and drink the purer water.

7. Should a mass murderer ever kill 3,000 people on our soil, we will devote every single resource to tracking him down and bringing him to justice. Immediately. We will protect you.

8. We will never stick our nose in your bedroom or your womb. What you do there as consenting adults is your business. We will continue to count your age from the moment you were born, not the moment you were conceived.

9. We will not take away your hunting guns. If you need an automatic weapon or a handgun to kill a bird or a deer, then you really aren't much of a hunter and you should, perhaps, pick up another sport. We will make our streets and schools as free as we can from these weapons and we will protect your children just as we would protect ours.

10. When we raise the minimum wage, we will pay you -- and your employees -- that new wage, too. When women are finally paid what men make, we will pay conservative women that wage, too.

11. We will respect your religious beliefs, even when you don't put those beliefs into practice. In fact, we will actively seek to promote your most radical religious beliefs ("Blessed are the poor," "Blessed are the peacemakers," "Love your enemies," "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God," and "Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."). We will let people in other countries know that God doesn't just bless America, he blesses everyone. We will discourage religious intolerance and fanaticism -- starting with the fanaticism here at home, thus setting a good example for the rest of the world.

12. We will not tolerate politicians who are corrupt and who are bought and paid for by the rich. We will go after any elected leader who puts him or herself ahead of the people. And we promise you we will go after the corrupt politicians on our side FIRST. If we fail to do this, we need you to call us on it. Simply because we are in power does not give us the right to turn our heads the other way when our party goes astray. Please perform this important duty as the loyal opposition.

I promise all of the above to you because this is your country, too. You are every bit as American as we are. We are all in this together. We sink or swim as one. Thank you for your years of service to this country and for giving us the opportunity to see if we can make things a bit better for our 300 million fellow Americans -- and for the rest of the world.

Signed,

Michael Moore
[email protected]

jack0116533 14 Reviews 5202 reads
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Democrats were elected DESPITE you, not BECAUSE of you.

You're awfully damn cocky for a fellow with a few bad movies, thinking you can talk for every damn Democrat out there, before there's so much as a veto-proof Congress.

Maybe, just maybe, there are a few Republicans out there who (GASP) crossed party lines because they're sick and fucking tired of BULLSHIT, and about the last thing they want to hear is YOU.  YOU may be feeling all forgiving and shit, but some us would like to see some serious mitigation here before there's any kiss-and-make-up-shit, and  I'm not checking YOUR groupies for any dates anytime soon.

Snowman39 2196 reads
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why so pissed off????

Maybe its because the Republicans still have most of the money HE HE HE

BTW, you DO NOT have enough seats to over-ride a veto, and will NOT get them from Republicans. You may have a lame duck Bush, but you also have a lame duck Pelosi....

foo 4 Reviews 2762 reads
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Um...didja read it?

From my reading, it said "We won't be the massively corrupt, incompetent, major-league assholes who have been running things for the past 12 years.  By the way, here's a list of ways that they fucked everything up."  There's nothing forgiving about that list.

GOPGeezer 2 Reviews 2708 reads
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1.  respect republicans--- you call us every name in the book.

2. gay marriage--  I don't care if gay dems butt f*ck.  (that's what Gerry Studds- may he rest in peace- did to a 17 year old page and the dems in congress gave him a standing ovation as compared to Foley getting the boot).  DON'T MAKE EVERYONE ENDORES AND SAY IT'S MARRIAGE AND OH YEAH, HERE'S SSI BENEFITS TO FOR A MALE W/NO DEPENDENTS.

3.  Spend money!  You dems are masters at tha5t.

4. war---  Cut and run.  Run away.USA so mean to other countries.  mommy mommy mommy.

5. Healthcare---   Canada, britain--- Their health care sucks.  You gonna die for sure if you get cancer over there.  Unless you have 1/2 a mill to come to the USA for treatment.  You need a bypass heart operation and you're over 70,  FORGETTABOUTIT.  Unless of course you're that fat slob Michael Moore.

6. environment-- pollution is waste and waste is bad/as in loss of money in a free market system.  We have the cleanest country in the world.  

7.  OBL  hahaha-- Maybe Bubba shoulda coulda woulda done something about him.  Oh wait, your precious leader was to busy having pizza parties w/interns and getting BJs

8. abortion.  To bad Michael Moore's mother didn't consider one.

9. lGun control--- Wow- In Neew Orleans, cops were taking guns away from people who were trying to protect their property.

10.  minimum wage.  Raise the minimum wage and people starting out will have to work the first 6 months of their lives for free. They'll need to get to the point where their work is worth what the employer can pay for that work.  SO WHY DON'T YOU WORK FOR FREE FOR ONE WEEK AND SEE HOW IT FEELS--

11.  You dems are a bunch of dumb ass atheists.

12 Corruption-- Look at Bubba and his witch of a wife.

Michael Moore says: "do as I say not as I do"

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Abramoff and Cunningham in jail.  The only comfort you'll have is that you fucked it up for everybody else too.

Assholes.

jack0116533 14 Reviews 2386 reads
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What I'm afraid of is that we'll have more minor league assholes.   Is this just another election cycle, deciding whether we want professional crooks, or only amateur ones?

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I hope to God he has another think coming.

The history & structure of the Democrats is not as disciplined as the Repubs, and that has a couple of sides.  Moore has been in many ways as much of a jerk-off & intellectual flake as the GOP.

I think the majority that voted for Dems voted against the war and corruption; not for any one or package of the 3 dozen odd groups that traditionally associate with the Dems.

What the Dems have a mandate for is to clean house, not go off on their own freak show.

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1.  Republicans do nothing but call names.  republicans started the fight, now they're complaining about Democrats ending it.

2.  So if you don't care about buttfuckers, why are your boys making such a big deal about it, every time they get their mouths off somebody's cock?

3.  Democrats may spend money, but they know how to add and subtract.  Spending on wars only is all subtraction.  You morons have zero credibility as accountants.

4.  Sign up or shut up.

5.  American health care sucks.  Reagan turned it over to Big Pharma, which is busy finding a fucking diagnosis for everybody, to compel them to pay one way or the other.

6.  so what's your point?

7.  It's all Andrew Jackson's fault.  Your moron's been on vacation the last 6 years.

8.  Yo momma too.

9.  You don't like gun control?  Sign up and go to iraq, or shut up.  

10.  Minimum wage - do you want to work for the minimum wage?

11.  You're a dumbass Bible thumping snake charmer.

12.  What were Clintons convicted of?  What were Republicans convicted of?

GOPGeezer says, "If God meant you to think, he wouldn't have given you an asshole".

Snowman39 2122 reads
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if someone has money, they MUST HAVE GOTTEN it illegally. Mine is totally legal, so you can keep dreaming about jail and being pissed off.

I on the other hand will keep enjoying life, I know that really pisses you off, which just makes it sweeter ;-) HA HA HA HA

foo 4 Reviews 2235 reads
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"What the Dems have a mandate for is to clean house, not go off on their own freak show."

And what, specifically, have the Democratic leadership proposed that is their own freak show?

They've proposed:
1. Ethics reform (clean house)
2. Fiscal sanity (clean house)
3. Raise minimum wage (extremely popular in polls)
4. Change course in Iraq. (extremely popular in polls)
5. Fix Medicare part D (extremely popular in polls)

So....where's the freak show?

foo 4 Reviews 2310 reads
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"respect republicans--- you call us every name in the book."

I respectfully suggest you read your own post first, before claiming it's the Democrats who are doing all the name-calling.

"DON'T MAKE EVERYONE ENDORES AND SAY IT'S MARRIAGE"

Why not?  Do you have any reason to be against gay marriage besides a variation of "God hates fags"?  That's an honest question.  I've yet to come across someone who is against gay marriage who can give me a reason that is remotely logical.

"OH YEAH, HERE'S SSI BENEFITS TO FOR A MALE W/NO DEPENDENTS."

There are childless heterosexual couples, you know.  There are also homosexual couples with dependents (adoption, from previous relationships, lesbians finding a male friend, etc).

"Spend money!  You dems are masters at tha5t."

Since 2001, discretionary spending has shot up by 50%.  While you're welcome to think Democrats are "tax and spend", the current Republican party is "spend and spend".

"war---  Cut and run."

Please list your strategy for winning the war in Iraq.  A slightly-retarded eggplant can see that the current plan is a failure, and winning is not possible.  So what, specifically, should we do differently in order to win?

"Healthcare---   Canada, britain--- Their health care sucks."

Fact is OUR heath care sucks unless you have 1/2 a mill to pay for the best specialists and the best treatment.  I do agree that the British system (government-run health care) is not all that wonderful, I do believe that a single-payer system would be beneficial.  If you disagree, please explain why adverse selection isn't going to destroy your plan.

"environment-- pollution is waste and waste is bad"

No, pollution is the unusable by-products of industry.  No one wants to buy the smoke from a coal power plant.

"We have the cleanest country in the world."

Those who actually measure pollution would disagree with you.  IIRC, the cleanest industrialized nations are in Scandinavia.

"OBL  hahaha-- Maybe Bubba shoulda coulda woulda done something about him."

Clinton launched a missile attack that missed him by an hour.  Your side claimed he was just 'wagging the dog'.  Clinton also ordered the Pentagon to draw up plans for an invasion of Afghanistan.  He decided not to repeat Bush the elder's error in starting an invasion just before leaving office.  The FBI and CIA determined that Bin Laden was behind the attack on the USS Cole in 2001.  Why didn't W do anything to retaliate?  Or, say, capture the SOB while we had him surrounded in Tora Bora?

"abortion"

Shockingly enough, some people actually believe you should own the uterus in question before deciding what goes on in it.

"Gun control--- Wow- In Neew Orleans, cops were taking guns away from people who were trying to protect their property."

You'll note Micheal listed specific weapons.  A hunting rifle or shotgun would be far more effective at protecting your property during a natural disaster than a handgun.  And if you're at the point where you need an assault rifle to hold off the looters, they're going to overwhelm you.

"Raise the minimum wage and people starting out will have to work the first 6 months of their lives for free."

Several states have already raised the minimum wage.  The higher minimum wage has not increased the unemployment rate compared to other states.

"You dems are a bunch of dumb ass atheists"

No, we Democrats have a very large range of people in our party.  From atheists to devout Catholics and Christians.  Those who are religious seem to have noticed that Jesus' primary message was "take care of each other", not "I GOT MINE!  SCREW YOU!".

"Corruption-- Look at Bubba and his witch of a wife."

Well, the Clinton administration was the most investigated administration in history.  The investigations resulted in 0 convictions for any "senior white house official".  Going back to the last president to complete 8 years in office (Reagan) leads to several senior officials going to jail in the HUD and S&L scandals.

stamina4hours 9 Reviews 3169 reads
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We all gotta stop getting so crazy about these things and start "responding" to each other instead of "reacting" to each other.

I think we are all ready for that. I think we are all tired of the devisiveness and being pitted against each other. I know I am.

Let's assume that either party would treat the other in the way desribed by MM -- wouldn't that be great?

rjr123 1 Reviews 2528 reads
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Murtha 's next to go to jail. Even George Soros says he's the most corrupt polotician in Washington.

rjr123 1 Reviews 1933 reads
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Thats why the pinkos and panty waists want to take your money- you made it illegally. Ha Ha

rjr123 1 Reviews 2408 reads
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Amen, brother. If only Michael Moore's had an abortion, it wouldbe a better country. The liberals will be gone in 2 years after they weaken the country so much and we have another terrorist attack

jack0116533 14 Reviews 2332 reads
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because (a) the Dems aren't as unified as the Repubs, and Moore is arrogantly assuming that he can speak for the Dems, and that the Dems won't self-combust as they have many times before.   AT BEST, they have plenty of their own issues to work out before they issue any fatwas.

(b) Actions speak louder than words; in fact, they trump words as communication.  Moore's words here are ambiguous at best, and certainly in the context of his making accusations as intellectually flaky as those coming from the right, he might do a lot better to sit down and shut up.

(c) You have to accept that political control of the USA is one of the richest prizes in the world, and people are going to fight over it.   It shouldn't be terribly surprising that the tactics would follow from the history and ideology.

rjr123 1 Reviews 1973 reads
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Liberal= pinko, communist, socialist, panty waist, fags, phonies and illegals. Why dont you all leave the country and we will better off.Bet the terrorists are laughing their asses off. Nothing in this diatribe makes any sense

rjr123 1 Reviews 2372 reads
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Ha ha. annother Bubba loving ass wipe. Wait until they find Bela Pelosi and Hillary doing each other. Bring back Hillary Care!!!!!

rjr123 1 Reviews 2144 reads
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The pinkos will be all over the place. They have zero core values and all the items listed above will change with the latest poll. I dont see any specifics and when is fatboy Murtha going to jail?

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assumes I equated Moore's comments to a frak show, and not merely a general warning; and that
s fiarly ambiguous -  so, fair question.

Moore has a rep (and deserved IMHO) as an intellectual flake.  His conclusions often don't stand up to footnotes, and he's pretty hysterical for a fellow his size.  If you want to regard procedure as more important than result (and I often do) then he belongs with the Ponzi schemers and snake charmers in the GOP, not with those who value any sort of objectivity over ideology.

More to the point, I think partisans overrate partisanship.  A little care would suggest that Dems should not be taking this election for granted; it seems to me their votes came from lots of places.  I know several Republicans personally who crossed party lines because they're sick of Bush; not because they like Mike Moore or Jesse Jackson.

So Moore's gloating - or whatever it is - is likely to be premature.  I wouldn't be granting him any money.

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get me a link to george soros saying murtha is the most corrupt pol in DC.

do it or leave town, because I'm gonna search every post from now on out, and remind you you owe us this.

You will never hear the end of this, until you produce.

Because Soros has lucid moments, and anybody thinking Murtha is bad is totally, irretrievably insane.

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Check Citizens for Responsibilty and Ethics in Washington, funded by George Soros. Their public statement , postedNovember 13, states that Murtha is "deeply ethically challenged". He makes their list of the top 20 most corrupt politicians, andI believe 18 are Republicans, so this is hardly a Republican organization.
You can check the site www.citizensforethics.com, and www beyonddelay.com. But it really doesnt matter, Murtha has been reduced to a bit player, thanks to Bela Pelosi

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now it's some organization you want me to find, that claims he's "deeply ethically challenged" ie 1 of 20.

Yeah, it really doesn't matter, except that once again you're caught in a lie.  No wonder 18 or these 20 are Republicans; you lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

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Okay, you want the proof and now you dont want to acknowledge it. Its a lefty site, funded by one of YOUR heroes. What a phony you are, very typical of the left wing "intellectully" challenged phonies!!!!
You tell me to document it, and now you dont habve time to look it up. Do you want me to read it to you?? Some "organization". No, its Soros's organization. C'mon, you can dish, but you cant take it. A true pantywaist

RightwingUnderground 2489 reads
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NOW you get all kind spirited? Now that you think your guys are in power? Suuuuuuuuuuuure. We'll all get right on that.

Where were you for the last 6 years?

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that makes you a true liar

Listen, RJ, you can say anything you want, I'm not gonna stop you.  This pantywaist spent 10 years USMC, and spent his undergrad years boxing when he wasn't sailing atlantic storms.   he's raised kids, fought prosecutors for a living, and lived with a career psych patient, and he'll shove your panties wherever and whenever he wants.

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Listen panywaist, I laid it out for you in BLACK and WHITE. Cant you read!!!! Why are you deflecting and not responding? Typcal liberal, trying to dance around. Just read the information! The Soros sponsoredorganization that I specifically referenced lays out the warning that Murta is one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington

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I hope they do, they will be gone in 2 years.The moderates won you Congress, but Bela wants to take a left turn.Good luck

jack0116533 14 Reviews 2042 reads
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It's not my fault you're fucking illiterate, and don't know the difference between "the most" and "one of the most".

All you assholes are brain-dead.  WTF do you think you're doing trying to lead anything?  You couldn't lead girl scouts to the head after beer call.

STFU until you figure this "fact" thing, and the "reading" thing out.

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that you're all a bunch of faggots.   I have explained to you exactly why I will put your fucking panties where I want, when I want.   Fucking Oaxaca sounds like a good place.

jack0116533 14 Reviews 2106 reads
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Republiscum who couldn't tell the truth if your miserable life depended on it.

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Ya little faggot, I don't know whether you're high, or just born stupid, born liar, or all three.

You can't even figure out that your words and your information is different, as in CONTRAFUCKINGDICTORY, MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

Go lie to somebody else, ya little fairy.

jack0116533 14 Reviews 1891 reads
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You can't even understand your own writing.

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not like your advice was worth shit last campaign

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go back to your commie loving buttfucking friends

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BTW, Murtha isnt even the issue anymore. This focus has to be shifted to Alcee Hastings

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I didnt know librals had this kind of spirit- impressive

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Wow- I challenge back and you are a stammering idiot. I assume you are foaming at the mouth

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Now, now. A liberal calling someone a fairy? Isnt that a little harsh for the tolerant party. You have made no sensein the last few posts. I gave you the info- George Soros's organization identified fat boy. BTW, lets move on to Alcee, shall we?

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Ha ha- you are gone

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I think you are the commie, did you forget that?

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Al-cee! Al-cee! I am licking my chops on that one. Makes your fatboy Murtha look like an angel

jack0116533 14 Reviews 2883 reads
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YOU CAN DISH IT OUT BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE IT!!!!!!!

YA LITTLE FAGGOT, YA JUST LOVE TAKING IN YER ASS, DONCHA????!!!!!!

jack0116533 14 Reviews 1884 reads
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while still holding a 6" pattern @ 300m.  It's tough.

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and post to everybody, "RJR ADMITS HE'S A DICK LICKING PUSSY FAGGOT"

-- Modified on 11/21/2006 12:00:02 PM

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Did I say there was anything wrong with being a fairy, ya little buttfucked boy?

You're always projecting and assuming.   There's nothing wrong if you like taking big black cock in the ass.   Hell, I'll pay $3 to stand watch and laugh at you.  Nothing wrong with any of that.

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hey asshole- you don't make any sense. Explain what you mean- you never acknowledged the Soros siteblasting Murtha. Its jus namecalling andgetting upset- who I am talking to, Barbra Streisand?

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This is funny. The liberals all scream about the Rupublican corruption andas soon as I bring up Murtha ,some go into a rage screaming that I back up the charge. Then I produce my source, a George Soros funded group that made a public announcement identifying the corruptness of Murtha, and what happens? Jack-O pulls a Kramer andstarts literally foaming at the mouth, accusing me of lying and who knows what.
Then we talk about Bobby Byrd, who was KKK. I put that out sort of tongue in cheek, but somenoe syas he wasnt a "real" racist. Huh?
Then I bring up Alcee Hastings, I havent seen any response on him. He is incredibly corrupt, but the liberals will all run and hide and not respond.
The liberls sre enormously hypocritical. They weregreat at dishing at theRepublicans, but God forbid you bring up their guys.
Incredible!!

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