"the egoticial maniacle dudes in academic circles in my mind are a bit less stable than most, because of their sense of entitlement. "
"The school's Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics...are mourning the death of Kevin Granata and one other professor, Liviu Librescu...When the gunshots rang out on the second floor, Granata, a military veteran, was in his office on the third floor. He walked out and across the hall to a classroom, where 20 frightened students were wondering what to do. He directed them into his office, where he ushered them to safety -- in close quarters but behind the locked doors. Then, aware that other students might be in danger on the second floor, he and another professor, Wally Grant, went downstairs to investigate, Slota said.
Cho spotted them and shot them both. Grant was wounded but survived; Granata was killed. If the students in the classroom had tried to run out, they would have confronted the killer, too, Slota said.
"All those in that class, they all made it," Slota said. "They were locked up until the police came. [Granata] couldn't sit around and do nothing. He had to help out, find out what was going on."
Leech and colleagues said Granata was a devoted family man and the kind of person who would have confronted danger to defend others.
"He was very protective," Leech said."
In fact Bizarro thinks he was probably a rapist.
"the egoticial maniacle dudes in academic circles in my mind are a bit less stable than most, because of their sense of entitlement. "
abnormal personalities. I happen to believe that there are more abnormals in the academic environment than in most other places... where is it that you live?
See the link for evidence of abnormal and somewhat entitlement behavior. Sorry, just too many examples - and this is ONLY ONE U.
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I argued that there were good people in academia, gave examples, and your comeback to me was snide.
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got seriously cornholed by a prof as an undergrad. My condolences.
I don't have the impression that he hates anyone but I can't say the same for you Jeremy. You always seem to have a burr under your saddle.
...His symptoms seem a bit extreme for just a "burr" under the saddle...
It keeps the board interesting though... I'm always looking forward each day to seeing what kind of poorly-reasoned mindless blather Jeremy has come up with... then I laugh and laugh and laugh....
with a delightful lady - yea, nothing like a session with jeramy to let you realize that not all folks are as nice as some of the lovely ladies of this board.
No he doesn't, you're deliberately burlesquing what BSD has critically written about the academic profession, and applying it in a really crazy way.
BSD points out that some in the academic profession [a very small number?] are rapists, more are egomanicas, almost all feel a sense of entitlement, a sense totally undeserved if i'm following his line of reasoning correctly. BSD was part of the academic profession, so while his sample might be overly samll and unique to his environment from which he drew, his observations are no less acute. Your real complaint might be that he's overgeneralizing? Hey, sound familar?
Try itthis way ; Jeremy bender hates white people because he's critical of don Imus. Making sense to you now?
To be sure, BSD is very passionate about this issue, and passionate exposition is easy to criticize in ways both fair and foul. I can relate, as this is how I like to write about a certain foreign policy lobbying group whose activities I loathe.
Jeremy, just fess up, it was cheap shot time, there was a big fat target of opportunity, and you couldn't resist from an quick and easy salvo.
No harm in that -- we've all dome that at one time or another.
disagree with you about it being "a very small number" since "a very small number" of any profession are murderers and rapists--grocery clerks, priests, investment bankers, etc. He has quite clearly stated his belief "that there are more abnormals in the academic environment than in most other places."
There is a big difference between being "critical" of a profession and calling most of them rapists and murderers, or at the very least accessories for other rapists and murderers.
Oh, and show me where I have made generalizations about any race. The reason I have been attacked lately is because I disagreed with statements that alleged that South Korean culture fosters mass killers and university professors were rapists and murderers. Look at those views and seriously tell me who the extremisit is in this discussion.
No, Jeremy, I AM NOT accusing you of demeaning any race. What I think you are referring to is this line [and correct me if i'm wrong] :
"Try it this way ; Jeremy bender hates white people because he's critical of don Imus. Making sense to you now?"
I was trying to point out what I took to be an absurity -- because BSD is angry at the academic profession, you contend that he automatically hates the self-sacrificing professor at VT. To parody that, I suggested, in an attempt to piont out the weakness of your position, that it would be like me claiming that you hate whites because you criticize Don Imus. You commit deductive overgenaralization [going from the general - BSD critcizes professors -- to the specific -- BSD hates professor LL. I try to turn it around and show how that's not necessarily correct by subjecting you to inductive overgeneralization [going from the specific -- JB critices Imus -- to the general -- JB hates white people]. Perhaps I might have written it more clearly?
Missed your comments re Korean culture, as I've found the VT massacre story too sad and have mostly avoided it.
Re "a very samll number" either as a percentage of the ppulation of academics or as an absolute figure, i imagine it's not large. But BSD is more than capable of defending himself.
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does not work because you are reversing the generalization. He generalizes about all professors so I point out one who proves that not "ALL" professors are like that. My comments about Imus were about one specific person. At no point have I ever said anything about all white people.
Also note that at no point in this thread has BS denied hating this professor.
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keep my daughter informed wrt the actions of professors (and in fact I have cautioned female students that I mentor), much as I would my son and Catholic priests, and All my kids about riding in any form of transportation with the kennedy's! ok?! are they all rapists? geeze, the more stories I uncover - the more I wonder! see my response above to NOSC...
To be blunt about it, they are NOT all rapists... but because of the #s that I have seen, and are documented in a very short space of time and place.... I gotta wonder. And these are the tip of the iceberg!
sorry, I gotta be skepticle....
if this is not a bullseye, it is so close that I would need a microscope to make the determination! In reading through your analysis, I think that you have captured what I have been trying to say, better than I have expressed! mucho thanks....
TY, on occassion I get something right.
I seem to be a better poster than a hobbyist -- and THAT bar ain't set real high [LOL].
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