Somehow Joseph Welch's words seem to be rather apt here.
who acorn promoted. Get some education watch fox news. Black panthers who were intimidated white voters in philadelphia with there black fighting sticks, ww you are some moron,
yeh, I remember ACORN drool boy. I also remember this.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/03/01/2010-03-01_bklyn_acorn_cleared_over_giving_illegal_advice_on_how_to_hide_money_from_prostit.html
I also remember this.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/05/james_okeefe_and_friends_plead.html
As for Fox News and the "education" they provide the public, I also remember this:
http://ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_to_misinform_public.html
As for the Black Panthers.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39861.html
But don't let the facts get in your way, Drool Boy.
Nothing was ever proven! Just right wing accusations!
of the Republican Party.
Another gross exaggeration courtesy of WW . . . . .
And it is only Tuesday . . . .
...from the GOP might be an anomaly. Twice might be a consequence. Three times is a pattern.
At this point, the GOP's pattern on this is so obvious, that it's ridiculous to suggest anything other than the obvious. Don't make me prove it PW, I've got a busy day at work today.
see it. And this little incident in Arizona is absolutely nothing compared to what your fellow Dems do in the Windy City.
Prove it all you want, Willy. The Daley family will outdo anything you can come up with . . . . LOL
which party was found guilty in a court of law of unlawfully caging voters?
What part of election fraud would that be?
day at work today, and he still has time to surf the net, and post on P&R. He's my multitasking hero...NOT!
we take great pride here in Mexico, common name Arizona of a long and well established tradition of political fraud. In the armature arena of state politics we pride our self on training the local politicians both Democrat and Republicans of laying, cheating and stealing. By the time they reach Washington D.C. we don't have the Charlie Rangel, Boxer, Stevens, Acorn, Bernard Stone, George Ryan, Rod Blagojevich Nixon, Agnue. You gotta have a few failures and churn the barrel before the cream rises to the top.
We don't live in a pristine state of denial where you reside WW. We live in the real world. So while you're on the soapbox I suppose you tell us all the Democrats and Republicans are honest, true blue and missionary only fucking Baptist.
As far as I can tell JL, you're new here. So perhaps you've missed the many times I've been more than happy to criticize Dems and Republicans alike. But that doesn't mean that I believe in the principle of two wrongs make a right.
I'm not that new, a couple of years. Just checked in and read post for quite a while. I think you missed my point. Let me make it plain.
Both Dems and Rep usually come up thru state politics. That's where they learn how to lie, cheat and steal. Most politicians in Washington D.C. are pros and therefore are very good at what they do. It's not a matter of two wrongs make a right.
It's more like Oh well, he ain't never gona make the big time if he was caught at the state level.
Kinda like how some Democrats quietly pushed Ross Perot get back in the race after he withdrew?
What laws are being broken? None.
The same certainly can't be said of ACORN now can it? I will never forget the guy who was interviewed on election day, talking about how much fun he had voting, and how he couldnt wait to do it again - later that same day that is. That nice man from ACORN said he could. Want to guess which candidate he voted for? Take a wild guess perhaps?
But of course, we gotta keep the boogeyman of Voter Fraud alive and well, don't we Sin? Voter Fraud never overturned an election. We can't say the same thing about Election Fraud, now can we Sin?
You do seem to be from some other world!
You don't check out your facts and repeat accusation that have been proven false.
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html
http://maciverinstitute.com/2010/08/former-acorn-worker-pleads-guilty-to-vote-fraud-in-milwaukee/
http://conservativehideout.com/wordpress/2010/08/26/voter-fraud-alert-acorn-members-plead-guilty-funny-business-in-texas/
http://dailyantikos.blogspot.com/2008/10/acorn-employees-convicted-of-voter.html
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.retirement/2009-07/msg00829.html
Wow, a link to a anti-ACORN website with unsubstantiated claims (who also gets it dead wrong on the living wage), a libertarian website, 2 Republican blogs, and someone's saved e-mail. When you're covered in drool, I guess you have low standards. Anyone have a napkin I can borrow?
They are legal but in terms of participatory democracy they are a fraud.
Why do you feel the need to mis-characterize the facts?
Fraud? Says who? Certainly not the New York Times in your link.
The GOP is involved? Certainly not according to the New York Times in your link.
BTW, do you think any election districts will see any "fraudulent" Tea Party candidates "pop up" this November? And will the NYT report it?
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2010/08/tea_party_for_one_oakland_coun.html
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/dem-official-in-michigan-forced-to-resign-for-scheme-to-put-fake-tea-party-candidates-on-ballot-101479309.html
http://www.petoskeynews.com/news/article_f2bd43fe-ac6b-11df-8c07-001cc4c03286.html
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/10/a-tea-party-fake/
Appearently, you missed this paragraph.
"Mr. Pearcy and other drifters and homeless people were recruited onto the Green Party ballot by a Republican political operative who freely admits that their candidacies may siphon some support from the Democrats."
This isn't the first time this has happened, either, and it's put Alvin Greene into quite an uncomfortable position. I wonder if they have those electronic voting machines in South Carolina. What do you think?
Ed, you seem to be working off the principle that if the other side does it, then your side doing it is perfectly justified. I don't know why you think this is okay. I'm equally horrified by Dems putting up Tea Party candidates, and it seems the guy who did this is being forced to resign his position. Will this Republican operative do the same?
What's worse is that the GOP is taking advantage of homeless people, specifically to make them look ridiculous to the voting public. Having volunteered in a number of homeless shelters and soup kitchens in my time, I find this to be beyond despicable.
YOU are the one that started this out with a one sided complaint, not me. I merely evened things up a bit.
I never condoned the actions of the guy in your link. Why do you insist that I did so? I said it was not illegal. (Although the people he picked would actually make pretty good Green Party members.)
The guy in your link is not a GOP official. He's just running for the political equivalent of dog catcher. The Dems caught in Michigan were were indeed officials and even elected ones.
I started it out as a one sided thing simply because I was unaware that any Democrats had done such a thing.
It seems that you're indeed condoning it, by saying the other side does it too.
I believe this guy is actually running for a state legislature position on the republican ticket. He's running for an elected legislative office. A bit more important than a dog catcher.
It seems that you're indeed condoning it, by saying the other side does it too.
I believe this guy is actually running for a state legislature position on the republican ticket. He's running for an elected legislative office. A bit more important than a dog catcher.
You should not exercise things that you do not understand.
would have been a better title for the thread if you wanted to be even handed. But I guess you don't consider "More Election Fraud coming from the GOP" bias. Words actually have meaning and they carry weight. A message is conveyed and a thought process is started. Analyise the heading you wrote and it really says: "In addition to all the election fraud of the GOP more will be coming."
From what I read in the article there wasn't anything illegal. If you want to think for yourself you have to allow others to do the same. It's a free country, the guy can do all the recuting he wants. If he wants to talk people to join his political view, sigh up to run for office or jump off the Salt River bridge for a swim in the rive it's ok. Hope they wait until the damn is finished and there is water in the river.