White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.
White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their fuckin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot shit" for fun, and still be viewed as a
responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.
White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of,
then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to
achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.
White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're "untested."
White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for
the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school, requires it), is a
dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.
White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.
White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto is "Alaska first," and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your
spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's
being disrespectful.
White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of
women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if
you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college and the fact that she lives close to Russia--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.
White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your
running mate anyway, because suddenly your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a "second look."
White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.
White privilege is when you can take nearly twenty-four hours to get to a hospital after beginning to leak amniotic fluid, and still be
viewed as a great mom whose commitment to her children is unquestionable, and whose "next door neighbor" qualities make her ready to be VP, while if you're a black candidate for president and you let your children be interviewed for a few seconds on TV, you're irresponsibly exploiting them.
White privilege is being able to give a 36 minute speech in which you talk about lipstick and make fun of your opponent, while laying out
no substantive policy positions on any issue at all, and still manage to be considered a legitimate candidate, while a black person who gives an hour speech the week before, in which he lays out specific policy proposals on several issues, is still criticized for being too vague
about what he would do if elected.
White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize
George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian
theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black
pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign
policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.
White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked By a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're
dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.
White privilege is being able to go to a prestigious prep school, then to Yale and then Harvard Business school, and yet, still be seen as just an average guy (George W. Bush) while being black, going to a prestigious prep school, then Occidental College, then Columbia, and
then to Harvard Law, makes you "uppity," and a snob who probably looks down on regular folks.
White privilege is being able to graduate near the bottom of your college class (McCain), or graduate with a C average from Yale (W.)
and that's OK, and you're cut out to be president, but if you're black and you graduate near the top of your class from Harvard Law, you
can't be trusted to make good decisions in office.
White privilege is being able to dump your first wife after she's disfigured in a car crash so you can take up with a multi-millionaire
beauty queen (who you go on to call the c-word in public) and still be thought of as a man of strong family values, while if you're black
and married for nearly twenty years to the same woman, your family Is viewed as un-American and your gestures of affection for each other are called "terrorist fist bumps".
White privilege is being able to sing a song about bombing Iran and still be viewed as a sober and rational statesman, with the maturity
to be president, while being black and suggesting that the U.S. should speak with other nations, even when we have disagreements with them, makes you "dangerously naive and immature."
White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being
black and experiencing racism and an absent father is apparently among the "lesser adversities" faced by other politicians, as Sarah
Palin explained in her convention speech.
And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren't sure about that whole "change" thing. Ya know,it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.
White privilege is, in short, the problem.
I guess if voting for McCain makes me a racist, I'll be the first slanteyed member of the KKK.
Has anyone else noticed, it's the Obama supporters that are actually the racists?
Until we post our addresses, phone numbers, and photos here, nobody knows who anyone is. You'll have to do a little better than that if you're attempting to assert your manhood by posting under your original TER ID.
What a fucking joke you are.
I didn't post it, btw. But the little of it I was able to read appears to be true. Maybe you should post something about internment camps to counter. We saw how well that worked for you before. lol.
GG's constant macho blathering about the use of an alias here and on other boards is ridiculous. Everybody is an alias although GG's actual identity is probably well known to his own inner circle of cronies who may be a little paranoid of all those outside that circle. Some here prefer to remain an alias whether it be their primary TER username or a derivative.
I agree with GG's idea that perhaps he should become the first slanteyed member of the KKK given his responses regarding racism here and on other threads. He may be more of a racist than he realizes. But, I'm sure he'll scoff at that prospect and offer evidence to the contrary. Have at it now.
awww... you guys are being too tough on GG!
It's not his fault he comes off as a balls-less prick. Have you noticed he posts practically in every single thread? When you stay home on the computer all the time, its easy to forget how to purposefully and effectively socialize with other people. Socializing is not like riding a bike, you know. So lets give him a break, yes? We are the final thread linking him to society (because paying for it doesn't count).
Posted by m0t0rcycleguy , 10/9/2008 7:02:26 PM
"Socializing is not like riding a bike, you know. (because paying for it doesn't count)."
Children can easily ride bikes but most bikers can't socialize except with the Dudes...unless "they" pay for it..
...that Obama supporters are racists. Is there a quantitative assessment there, or just more of you typing out of your ass? Provide numbers, or just admit to being an idiot, please.
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Why should I feel some sense of obligation to respond to YOUR posts on YOUR terms when you fail to do the same.
Quit acting like a whiny little bitch, and I'll quit treating you that way.
I am capable of having an adult dialogue with people I disagree with vehemently. Wormwood and Doc Gonzo and I disagree on virtually everything political, but I still consider them friends. MRB, Moosie, and even Zin aren't exactly friends, but 98% of our conversations are civil and you can't get much further left than the five people I just mentioned.
I can get along with almost anybody, why do you have to be such a whiny little wuss? Are you so wrapped up in being an "angry black man" that every thing you have to say comes down to race and the fact that you and your people have had it rough?
You continue to spout this nonsense and resort to unrelated shit like who your friends are and how much of a "wuss" you think I am...you haven't answered this question because you CAN'T answer it.
It doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you feel obligated to reply to me. We all post here to make points. So if you don't have an intelligent reply to why you think Obama supporters are racists just say you don't have an intelligent counter argument. The insults and references to other TER members aren't going to change or hide any of that.
just because you dismiss them doesn't make them any less true.
If you have nothing new to add, please just STFU. I know you will do no such thing, but I felt obligated to ask.
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now, quiet on the set...
what created this economic mess.
If you're going to criticize the gentleman's views, you'll need to be a bit more substantive that that. With some of the dumb shit you and your peers have posted on this site, I don't think this board falls into the category of an academic publication that you can hold to specific citation standards.
A decent try, but still pretty lame. Gamb and his damn followers...
Follower of GaGambler?
LMAO
I'd make a comment but I have no desire to get into a racial discussion with you.
I'm assuming it's a bit late for you to be awake and you're having trouble reading...Give it another stab in the morning.
How in the world of all that is sane, could you think that my proving that Mr. ColerMeGray was a plagiarist, could in any way, shape or fashion be a criticism of the views and words of Mr. Wise?
Conroy isn't too terribly bright. RWU, as one of my followers I would expect you to know these things. lol
Shape up or you're out of the RWSA. lmao
I am starting to feel like Bill Kile, I am beginning to develop my own fan club comprised of left wing idiots.
That makes (2) dumbasses that completely missed it. Anyone else?
ColorMeGray posted an essay written by some fellow named Tim Wise. He had neither attribution nor any link to Tim Wise’s site.
I called CMG on it and called him a plagiarist. No more. No less.
You retorted with a post TITLED, “Plagiarize?? LOL...wtf”, which clearly questions the legitimacy of my accusation.
I didn’t really much pay attention to the body of your post, except for the part where you called me a “Follower of GaGambler”. That still makes me chuckle 
I DID try to give you some benefit of the doubt by asking that maybe you thought that CMG was ACTUALLY Time Wise. It is possible. I didn’t get into the rest of your criticism because I knew it would end in some drawn out, pointless, useless shit of a conversation. Case in point. LOOK WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW!
Rather than converse, YOU post some condescending shit with ad hominem attacks.
You respond that I STILL don’t ‘get it’.
WHY SHOULD I GET IT?
WHY WOULD I GIVE A BUCKET OF SPIT ABOUT WHAT YOU POSTED? You didn’t respond directly to what I posted. I thought maybe you misunderstood, so I tried to explain it to you in a fairly reasoned fashion, albeit with a bit of humor. You STILL ignored my attempts and returned to your attacks.
Well at least we aren’t arguing about racial issues. Or are we? I sometimes can’t tell with you.
"Well at least we aren’t arguing about racial issues. Or are we?"
What you don't understand is that your post served as a supporting example of the contents of the original post.
Let me put it this way... White privilege is when someone posts a collection of events depicting recent racial prejudices, but the message gets completely ignored because he failed to use quotation marks.
Does that explain why the "legitimacy of your accusation" was questioned?
I never dismissed the essay due to lack of quoted attribution. I simply pointed out that it was plagiarized. Is there some sort of PC rule that plagiarism no longer counts for anything?
I never read the essay, not because it was plagiarized but because I wasn’t interested.
Now THAT lack of interest could probably be classified as white privilege.
...that I was referring to your use of the word "plagiarize" as if this board is some sort of academic publication that requires adherence to citation!!!! I wasn't saying that gray DIDN'T copy his post from someplace else. That was pretty obvious to everyone here. I was just pointing out how ridiculous it is to make the PLAGIARIZE argument on a board like this where people copy and paste ALL THE FUCKING TIME without using parenthetical documentation.
Jesus Christ...just read my first fucking post again. Actually, do it tomorrow morning, because I think we may be approaching your bedtime again....You and Gamb appear to be on the same level of idiocy in your replies to what I typed, because everyone else seemed to get it. Fuck.
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I never committed the sin that you accused me of. I never criticized the writer of the essay nor the content.
I'll repeat my above post for clarity. . .
I never 'dismissed' the essay due to lack of quoted attribution. I never even commented on the essay. I simply pointed out that it was plagiarized.
I never read the essay, not because it was plagiarized but because I wasn’t interested.
Now THAT lack of interest might be classified as white privilege.
I give up. Again...
At least you don't pretend. I do admire that. lol. Fucking priceless.
I didn't even know that my post had ANYTHING to do with race. Who would'a thunk it? I STILL don't get the racial connection of my post.
...that you two (maybe three) were the only ones mentioning race in this thread, don't you? lol.
You wouldn't happen to have an extra chromosome floating around, would you?
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That if you actually used words that described what you 'meant' to say, you'd experience less confusion in people's responses.
But then again, maybe that WAS your intent.
BTW, what do you have against people with Downs Syndrome? Not very PC of a guy whose so 'in tune'.
You really are transparent.
Because apparently you don't.
Plagiarize \'pla-je-,riz also j - -\ vb -rized; -riz·ing vt [plagiary] : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (a created production) without crediting the source vi: to commit literary theft: present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source - pla·gia·riz·er n
FROM: Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary 9th ed, (Springfield, Ma: Merriam 1981, p. 870).
See right above... that's my source.
And I've marveled at what little thought went into parroting those phrases. I called it the "meme of the moment."
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and you call them out on it routinely. What makes this any different except it's a racist lefty doing it instead.
Fair is fair. You can't bash one side and defend the other for the same behavior and still claim any objectivity.
What did you want me to add?
I'll admit I haven't seen very often that a liberal or conservative copies an entire article without attributing it. Conservatives usually only copy a cliche or a term in framing the argument, which is usually a belligerent or sarcastic term. What bothers me most about that is it usually indicates a lack of thinking about the issue. They might as well just say "ditto."
Liberals are incapable of original thought? LOL, please, have you been asleep for 8 years?
Since none of that applies to me, I guess I have no white privilege.