I mean, they are'nt even suppposed to be there.....now if they had been there to begin with that woiuld be different...

U.S.: Airstrike kills al-Qaida operative in Iraq

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9126948/

only 1 billion pissed off young muslims to go ... whoo hooo, we're on a roll ! ! !  {{sarcasm off }}

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Do nothing as usual. Gee, that will stop terrorism!!!

I believe that in order to participate in the arena of ideas, you should be prepared to present some...

I mean heck gee wiz, not like any of us told you NOT to go there in the first place or nothing, huh ? Not like any of the military experts, BUSH SR., or anyone WITH a BRAIN .... KNEW this was a mistake.

AND AGAIN !
What does IRAQ have to do with TERRORISM and the attacks on US on 9/11 ???? you answer that, and maybe I'll answer you're question.

Sorry Snowboy ... nothing against YOU personally but, this is one F'up that Bushy Jr. will have to fix ON HIS OWN, or get out of the way and let the Big Boys come in and Clean up his mess ... YET AGAIN !!!

POint is, if you think killing Al Qaida is a good idea, they are in theater now. THEY are placing a big bet on Iraq now. Leaving now helps their cause. That's the part the "withdraw now" crowd does'nt want to look at.

It's now besides the point (unless you just wanna feel good about yourself for "being right") whether they were linked to 9/11 or not. That point is so irrelevant as to be silly now. What matter in a fight is who's in your face NOW>

Like it or not, the US's fortunes are tied to GWB's success or failure in Iraq.

That's a fact.

"I know we fucked up, but tell us how to fix it SO WE LOOK GOOD."

and tell me now what will be your rationale when GWB "cuts and runs" next Spring so that he can try to save the mid-term elections? You may as well start thinking about it because looking at the poll numbers that is most likely what he is going to do.
Are you saying that if he starts pulling troops out starting in February that you condemn that and he will in effect be surrendering to the terrorists? Or will you wait for the RNC, Rush and Hannity to issue the spin points before making a comment?

don't post to me anymore.

Yes I'm sooooo Sorry Bill
I did use the TOTAL numbers I guess now that I look at them
1,884 US Military dead { http://icasualties.org/oif }
+ 194 OTHER Coalition
= 2,078 dead .... so yeah my saying 2000+ US dead was WAY off

and you'd think since a Majority of the dead are from California, well that you'd be a little more upset
http://icasualties.org/oif/USMap.aspx

OH wait
there's also US Journalists
and US Civilian Contractors
and ............... so the #'s go up right ?

NEXT, .....
YOUR Topic title said "AN" Al-qaida ... so that's where and why I picked up and said the ONE.

I don't Count what the Media is calling the "insurgents" because quite frankly MOST of those ARE IRAQI'S and feel they are defending their home. You said we're there to get Al-Qaida not get Iraqi's !!!

NEXT, .....
WOULD, that Al-Qaida HAVE even been IN Iraq had we not gone in there ? ? ?

NEXT, ......
Bill, the point is SO NOT about ME, just wanting to feel good about myself for "being right".
It's about ....... GW Bush being SO WRONG about EVERYTING he has DONE, SAID, THOUGHT, ACTED ON, ETC. ...... that Frankly I don't think HE is the person to put ANY faith behind in getting ANYTHING right !!! and that we need SOMEONE ELSE to get in there and FIX his FUBAR .... you want to tell me, " 'FINE' but I'm stuck with BUSH for 3 more years of mistakes so I better start to like it and get behind him" ? I tell you NO, as a citizen of this country it is MY DUTY to demand BETTER for my country and for OUR TROOPS.


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""""I don't Count what the Media is calling the "insurgents" because quite frankly MOST of those ARE IRAQI'S and feel they are defending their home.""""

Oh yeah, Batthist Freedom fighters. are you frigging kidding Lunchmeat?

"""WOULD, that Al-Qaida HAVE even been IN Iraq had we not gone in there ? ? ?""""

No, they would be here, in America, where they would be enrolled in flightschool....just like the 90's, all over again...

"""you want to tell me, " 'FINE' but I'm stuck with BUSH for 3 more years of mistakes so I better start to like it and get behind him" ? I tell you NO, as a citizen of this country it is MY DUTY to demand BETTER for my country and for OUR TROOPS.""""

No, I say the election is over, we are engaged in a fight overseas that frankly, has a good deal of FUBAR attached BUT...if we have our asses handed to us, we're all fucked. You think OBL distinguished Dem from Pub after Mogadishu??????after Kobar???after the Cole?????

You think these guys are gonna cut you and John Kerry some slack??? because, hey, your good guys!!!

I appreciate the right of dissent but I think it has to rsponsible, otherwise, it's no more noble that "yelling fire" in a crowded theater is protected speech. It's the over the top shit I object to because it emboldens our enemy and makes them fight all the harder, just like Vietnam. Same friggin thing.

Michael Moore and Howard Dean are poster boys for OBL. Don't let em put Mr. Lunchmeat up there too.

sure, send me a PM

no ideas, only bitching and moaning...

Pretty much status quo for the left these days. Explains why they can't win at the ballott box.