Politics and Religion

Make it make sense.....
crsm27 32 Reviews 508 reads
posted
1 / 27

So this isn't about the good/bad of the idea of selling off the US Student Debt to private firms.

 
What I am getting at is that many of the same Dem's saying "this is wrong" and "cant sell it at a loss" are the same ones that want student loan forgiveness.

Make it make sense?   They don't want to sell off the debt to private firms if it comes at a loss.  YET they were ok to forgive the loans....which would mean a LOSS.

 
Now onto the actual idea:

 
1.  Students need certain protections...... I agree 100% on this.  But there are usury laws in place that should protect them along with protected classes when it comes to lending.  

 
2.  Selling at a loss..... I don't want to see this either.   But need it explained better.  Is it a loss of the principle already paid out or is it a loss at the potential gains?   If the US Treasury gets back the principle already paid out... that is fine.  That isn't a "loss" perse.  It is just a loss on potential income.   But it would get rid of liabilities, costs, expenditures of collecting, running, etc of those programs.  

 
3.   When the Government took over the student loan program is when everything went fucking haywire.  Look at what tuitions did.... so would this be a bad idea and possibly wrangle in the costs of college?  

snafu929 20 Reviews 56 reads
posted
2 / 27

...I want to see protections for them against abuse but Biden showed us very clearly how that demographic could be swayed with his offer to pay off tuition.  What college student (or former) wouldn't want that regardless what it did to the national debt.  He played to their self interest and it was bullshit.

crsm27 32 Reviews 59 reads
posted
3 / 27

Oh agree 100% what Biden and others did with saying "cancel student loans" was pure vote buying.  Same goes for any politician be it Republican or Democrat.

 
But like I mentioned it makes no sense when Trump is talking about selling the debt off to take it off the books.   Yet Dem's are not screaming that taking it off the books is a bad thing.   When that is what cancelling debt would have done.

 
Anyways..... it goes to show you that anything Trump or any republican would try to do is "bad" in the eyes of many on the left.   The same can be said if a Democrat tries something many on the right would be pissed.   that is our political climate right now which is bullshit.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 55 reads
posted
4 / 27

I saw loan forgiveness and the first thing I thought of is how can these dumb ass thugs even have “student” loans??? They couldn’t afford welding school or??
But to forgive their loans for just acting like themselves…. A bunch of thugs is unconscionable

crsm27 32 Reviews 82 reads
posted
5 / 27

I also agree that shouldn't happen.    I have always been against loan forgiveness.   Only way college should be "free" or on the governments dime is if you are military.

 
You are deflecting from my question about how Dem's who wanted loan forgiveness are putting up a fight against this.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 53 reads
posted
6 / 27

And that caught my attention  
I didn’t or want to try to dicect your dribble.To even try to figure out what your getting at … who’s got the time  
But carry on

snafu929 20 Reviews 57 reads
posted
7 / 27

...but before Trump, did you always have such contempt for all rank & file Homeland Security employees?  Does your approval ebb and flow depending on who's sitting in the white house?   Do you loathe all Border Security employees as well?  TSA?  Food inspectors?  How far does your hate go?

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 59 reads
posted
8 / 27

Under Trump they don't give a shit about the law because they know Trump doesn't give a shit about the law.  Here's a recent example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T0IncZU5OU&list=RDNS8T0IncZU5OU&start_radio=1

 
You don't trust an NBC O&O?  Here's the version by the FOX News LA station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBI3Ovu5oHo

snafu929 20 Reviews 103 reads
posted
10 / 27

....so, as long as you're here  "dumb ass thugs even have “student” loans??? "  People getting jobs and following orders and doing what they're told.  I'm guessing you are the type to spit on soldiers at the airports when they come home too.

snafu929 20 Reviews 66 reads
posted
11 / 27

Unless it's the outdated "over and out" movie version of how to finish a conversation, I've got no clue...should I?

inicky46 61 Reviews 55 reads
posted
12 / 27

It means "Owned and Operated." Most networks are distributed by independent local broadcast stations. But they also own a few stations in major cities, and those are their "O & Os."
Now snafool has a clue. And I'm pretty sure there are no O & Os in a jerkwater place like Minneapolis, let alone St. Paul. So how would he know? LOL.

snafu929 20 Reviews 56 reads
posted
13 / 27

Aware of O&O in the business context yes, not sure what it has to do with this conversation but then again, I didn't pay any attention to Bigpoopy's links.  I assume they were highly selective video of ICE agents playing rough and ready, which there's plenty of to find online.

Here's some more for you;
https://youtu.be/8wjdTJts7_I

My fave though is below.  This was a small, near riot that occurred in Minneapolis that was caused by someone leaking to activists that Ice was involved in an action.  Activists alerted the network and militant protesters flooded the area.  This was a massive raid where Ice was involved in going after narcotic tafficking, human trafficking and money laundering.  900# of meth, dozens of bad guys, gold plated weaponry and other cartel related items as well as numerous businesses that were fronts for laundering the cash.  The gravy in this bust was the hotheaded little latina activist that punched an ice agent and threw a softball hitting another one in the face is going to prison for a very long time.

inicky46 61 Reviews 58 reads
posted
14 / 27

It was right there in the body copy of his post.
"You don't trust an NBC O&O?"

snafu929 20 Reviews 70 reads
posted
15 / 27

and what?  I didn't give two shits about his links so why would I care about what he referenced the links with?  Was I wrong, were they links to vids showing over reaching ICE agents?  To be honest, they way they're being recorded acting is tilting the mood and I think they need to do things differently but still keep doing it.  I'm sure we disagree on that.

My reply showed partial truth from the POV of new agency that at least pretends to care about being accurate, not highly selective/edited from the POV of an activist that has been fed to the media.  When I say partial truth, it's the unreported facts and/or lack of folllowup with more details as to why there were so many people that came to that location or the other arrests made of those that also assaulted not only ICE officers but officers from the other  agencies before someone figured out that this was more than an ICE bust.  

inicky46 61 Reviews 88 reads
posted
16 / 27

Didn't read the body copy either.
Then why bother to post?
You are the poster child for the phrase: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.
Enjoy reveling in your continued ignorance.

crsm27 32 Reviews 63 reads
posted
17 / 27

Again.... proving stereotype correct..... insult me and not talk about my message or content.    

Go directly to "but Trump".   I said that was stupid what Trump did as well.   But you can't comment on what Warren and others are saying.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 47 reads
posted
18 / 27

They don’t “move me”…what can I say🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

snafu929 20 Reviews 65 reads
posted
19 / 27

I don't live in MPLS you fool, I live in the woods about 3 hours north of there....half way to canada from the metro.  Hardly jerkwater though, some of the most expensive real estate in the state and where all the "uppity city folk" come to play at their weekend McMansions.

snafu929 20 Reviews 59 reads
posted
20 / 27

....and that's been contributing to the debate where you are still stuck on splitting hairs about how small details in the messages are being read.  You haven't typed a single word about the subject of the debate.  I'm not saying Bigpoopy's contribution is worth a shit but at least there was some effort on his part to move the ball one way or the other.  You, on the other hand are like the little yapping dog that for the most part is ignored because it can't do a damn thing other than make noise.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 57 reads
posted
21 / 27

I assume they were highly selective video of ICE agents playing rough and ready..."

 
You had no clue what my link showed yet you ASSumed what it was.  Only a moron would do something like that.  And of course you were wrong.  Here's a photo of SNAFUBAR:

snafu929 20 Reviews 50 reads
posted
22 / 27

I never stated I didn't read the links, my statement was that I didn't give a shit about the links and that's one of the reasons I didn't watch them.  More YAP!  YAP! YAP! from you, lol.  Read the rest of the post as well and still didn't give a shit about what it said.  The only thing wrong about my conclusion was that it was a border patrol agent with his nuts in a vice, not an ICE agent.  Maybe he's a pos who finally got caught.

inicky46 61 Reviews 51 reads
posted
23 / 27

I mean, TWO answers to the same post of mine? Get a grip. And now you're complaining you DIDN'T say you don't read links? After which you repeat your own words that you don't "give a shit about them and that's one of the reasons [you] didn't watch them?" You DUNCE, don't you realize that's the same thing???
YAP! YAP! YAP!
Please!

snafu929 20 Reviews 59 reads
posted
24 / 27

You state that before Trump, homeland security weren't thugs but you really don't know that.  There are 1,000's of 10-20+ year staff that people like you are calling thugs just because of what agency they work for.  Just like cops or any other law enforcement, the light is shining on them now and media is salivating for ANY chance to attack.  And yes, I'd like to have more context to what caused a supposedly sleeping agent to go into the street with a badge and weapon.  Just because the kid is 17 doesn't mean he's an innocent angel.  And like some cops, maybe this guy is a bad actor.

Did you read my post and follow my link?  It's just another example of a local (O&O as you say) outlet who Joe Blow thinks is doing a great job but the story they tell isn't near as accurate as it should be.  Ignored context, the lie of omission and because it attracted natural attention, they had to cover it as it was and couldn't spin it by ignoring it was primarily a DEA event but initially reported as an ICE raid by the same news agency as well as all the others.

inicky46 61 Reviews 55 reads
posted
25 / 27

Snafool just admitted above that he didn't read BPS' post OR follow his link.
What a fucking hypocritical dimwit.

snafu929 20 Reviews 58 reads
posted
26 / 27

....YAP! YAP! YAP! like the mangy little dog you are, lol!

inicky46 61 Reviews 66 reads
posted
27 / 27

with nothing to say and unable to even attempt to rebut.
I accept your surrender.

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