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Just curious
420Smoka4Eva 64 reads
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How many middle east wars have there been where countries are able to get in and get out quickly without the situation spinning out of control? What’s your blueprint?

Yeah it was expected that Right Wing influencers like Nick Fuentes would now abandon Trump. But this could be the tip of the iceberg.  
Curious to see how TPUSA /Erica Kirk respond to this🤔🤔 and if Charlie Kirk was still around …wonder what his reaction would be🤔
And let’s not forget Joe Rogan and his bro followers  
Buckle up..

It's an article from USA Today about the fracturing of MAGA over Iran. Seems like Donald has lost Cucker over this. But not to worry, our righty bots like Felcher,, snafool and Randy will obediently toe the line...

....and now enjoying occupancy in your head, rent free.  Do you allow pets?

He's so far right he's got Cucker and Fuentes beat.
Trump lives rent free in snafool's head.

it's far left or far right getting their panties in a bunch.  Let it play out.  If it works, all of these people who are opposing it now will be walking it back with egg on their faces.  If it doesn't work, Trump will stop stumping for GOP candidates for the midterms.  There is a lot riding on the success or failure of this play.

Correct on let it play out.     Many in Iran wanted the leadership change.    Many in the middle east wanted the leadership change.

 
Remember Iran wasn't supposed to have all these ballistic missiles.... yet here we are.    

 
Now I just don't want it to turn into Iraq, Afgan, etc.  type conflicts and wars.     Need to get in and get out.

420Smoka4Eva65 reads

How many middle east wars have there been where countries are able to get in and get out quickly without the situation spinning out of control? What’s your blueprint?

has already done this year in Iran and Venezuela.   He says that might take four weeks to bring Iran to their knees. The hit on the nuclear sites was just a warning, which obviously, Iran did not take seriously.   He said this morning that they had projected that it would take three to four weeks to track down and eliminate the 49 leaders they got in the first hour, so they are WAY ahead of schedule.  

 
This mission would have been flawless the first day, just like Venezuela, were it not for the air defenses in Dubai accidentally shooting down three of our fighters.  However, the crews all parachuted to safety and have been recovered unharmed.  

was that the CIA found out most of the top leadership would be meeting in the same place; the Ayatollah's compound. So it was a unique opportunity to decapitate virtually the entire leadership. That's the entire reason for the timing.

RespectfulRobert56 reads

I am a bit more optimistic about this war than I was when I first heard of it. Now that we are in this deep, we might as well finish the job.

420Smoka4Eva64 reads

Let me get this straight. You’re saying the blueprint for Iran is… Iran? If it worked out so well the last time, why are we back at it again?

Or for that matter the end game....A common phrase trumps says  is, "well let see what happens"...yes we shall see.

We had been in Iraq for a long time and ISIS held control over large areas of Iraq and Syria. Under the Trump administration, rules of engagement were loosened drastically and ISIS territory was rolled up in short order. Then, rather than have US combat formations maintain a long term presence against ISIS remnants, US Special Forces trained and augmented a Kurd coalition to handle any threat that ISIS was able to reconstitute.

Now I don’t know if we will have Green Berets working with Iranian insurgents (for example the Iranian Kurds), but the CIA and Mossad will most certainly be working with and arming elements in Iran working to overthrow the radical Islamist regime.

In his slavish need to support whatever Trump does he ignores that Trump has betrayed the Kurds TWICE.
The first time was in 2019 when he cut a deal with the Turks to not oppose their moving into Iraqi Kurdistan. One US Army officer called it "a stain on the American conscience."
And Trump just betrayed them AGAIN by siding with the new government of Syria in its move against the Kurds. This, in turn, resulted in the ending of the Kurds keeping ISIS members in custody. So they had to be moved to Iraqi prisons but dozens escaped and are probably reconstituting somewhere in the desert.
Way to go, Don. And his minion, ChicKenShit.

Trump wasn’t the first US president to place US interests over the Kurds, and he won’t be the last.

Where did I ever state that Trump was the first to betray the Kurds? I simply pointed out he did it twice in a successful rebuttal of your post which pretended he was a wonderful supporter of the Kurds.
We understand ChicKenShit was embarrassed. But failing to accept defeat is a sad way to deflect. ChicKenShit should have just taken the L.
Sad.

Seems like, in the fog of war we killed some of the people Trump hoped would run Iran for us. According to the Times:
"President Trump said on Tuesday that officials the United States had eyed as potential new leaders of Iran had been killed in the U.S.-Israeli bombing campaign. As the war in the Middle East widened, he said that the worst outcome would be that whoever takes over Iran could be “as bad” as their predecessors.

Speaking to reporters at the start of a White House meeting with Chancellor Friedrich Merz of Germany, Mr. Trump claimed that Iran had been about to attack its neighbors and Israel, and he made the decision to go to war to pre-empt that action. Officials with access to U.S. intelligence have said that Mr. Trump has exaggerated the immediacy of any threat Iran posed to the United States.

When asked about a worst-case scenario for the future of Iran, Mr. Trump said that it would probably be “you go through this and in five years you realize you put somebody in who’s no better.”

In a legally mandated notification to Congress sent later on Tuesday, Mr. Trump said the strikes on Iran were carried out to protect the homeland and U.S. forces in the region, advance U.S. national interests and “in collective self-defense of our regional allies, including Israel.” He also said “it is not possible at this time to know the full scope and duration of military operations that may be necessary.”
So....no plan and no end-game. Great.

have both legs, and they are very strong after we sank their Navy.  Do you think that was just accidental, or could it be part of  . . . . . . . wait for it . . . . . . a "PLAN?"

Did you also notice there was no plan for getting thousands of US citizens out of the area?
There also doesn't seem to be a plan for keeping the Strait of Hormuz open.
Or anything else but flinging lots of missiles and bombs.
And that's fine, but this whole thing beyond the bombs seems half baked.

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