and if you followed the hearings and comments by the judge in that case, it was clear that she thought this was government abuse. There has already been testimony before Congress and a book written by an FBI agent who was from that office (but refused to go on the raid because she saw it for what it was) who has written a book about it. I don't know what "by the book" you are referring to, but rank and file agents thought it was corrupt to do this instead of just asking for the documents like they did with Biden. Is it was on the up and up, why have so many senior FBI people been shown the door? This lady explains the dynamics within the department in her book and how the mainstream agents were just trying to do their jobs while the upper management were playing politics.
In this there are two suits they are bringing up.... Russia investigation and Mar-a-Lago. One you say was done by the book (debatable) and the other wasn't... RUSSIA.
The reason why I say debatable is showing empty files, false folders, leaked photos, etc. Those can be arguments of not being done by the book. You know "tampering" or falsifying evidence. Yes even though nothing was in those folders... it can be considered falsifying evidence. Slam dunk drug cases have been thrown out for less.
Now I don't agree we should be paying for it. But again it isn't Trumps fault to use the system in place. Just like I dont think we should be paying for anyone....but sad thing that is our system that is in place.
...for reimbursement of attorneys fees he incurred as a result of prosecutorial misconduct."
Once again, COEUR-DE-LION pulls shit out of his ass and flings it at the screen like a monkey. Before you can sue the government you have to file a claim for damages. After the claim is denied (which it almost always is), you have to file a lawsuit.
Trump filed a claim in August 2024 seeking COMPENSATORY AND PUNITIVE DAMAGES over the Mar-a-Lago search and subsequent criminal case.
But Trump is also claiming he has a "lawsuit" which would indicate his claim for damages was denied. Trump is such a fucking lying moron that you never know what's true.
"I have a lawsuit that was doing very well, and when I became president, I said, 'I’m suing myself,'" Trump said. "I’ll say, ‘Give me X dollars,’ and I don’t know what to do with the lawsuit. It’s a great lawsuit and now I won — it looks bad. I’m suing myself, so I don’t know."
Does he have a claim for damages or was it denied and has he filed a lawsuit??
Is COEUR-DE-LION claiming Trump "incurred" $230 million in attorneys fees because of the investigations? If so, he's a fucking moron. His attorney is claiming Trump spent "tens of millions of dollars in legal fees."
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-doj-230-million-settlement-investigation-government-10916432
You righties go ahead and keep believing whatever COEUR-DE-LION posts without question. ROFLMAO!!
CDL: "This administrative process allows . . . for reimbursement of attorneys fees he incurred as a result of prosecutorial misconduct. ..." and many more UNSOURCED claims.
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First of all, WHO paid the attorney fees? Trump? Just like he paid for renovation of the Wollman Ice Skating Rink.
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CAMPAIGN donors were scammed into having a portion of their campaign donation diverted to Trump legal defense teams. (It was in fine print and some donors asked for their money back.) The Trump campaign ALSO made "automatic monthly donations" the default that donors needed to opt out of, also in small, misleading print. I believe that consumer affairs or the FEC or other gov agency forced the Trump campaign to refund the cheated donors.
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The RNC contributed millions of dollars to Trump's defense. Over several years, Trump PACs paid more the $100 M to Trump's legal defenses. I don't think that Trump paid ANYTHING out of his own pocket.
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There are too many accounts to cite them all. Here are just a few but there are MANY more.
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http://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trumps-use-campaign-funds-pay-legal-bills
Trump's Use of Campaign Funds to Pay Legal Bills
Thanks to loopholes and lax enforcement, former president Trump is using campaign funds to pay almost all of his legal bills.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fec-filing-campaign-donations-legal-fees-b2489260.html
Trump campaign pumps small-dollar donors for $55m in legal expenses, records show
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http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-legal-fees-pac-donor-money-personal-cases-2024-2
Donald Trump spent over $52 million in PAC donor money on legal fees last year. [calendar 2023]
o Donald Trump spent $52,431,858 on legal fees in 2023 using PAC funds, a Business Insider analysis found.
o The vast majority — nearly $40 million — went to law firms working on his personal legal problems.
o Trump spent this small fortune in donor money on his legal fees despite being a billionaire.
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/27/us/politics/trump-cases-legal-fund.html
How Trump Moved Money to Pay $100 Million in Legal Bills
"Trump supporters poured money into his effort to challenge his 2020 election loss. [However] That fund has paid lawyers to defend him in his [personal] legal battles. ..."
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http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/06/trump-fundraising-off-of-conviction-after-sinking-millions-of-dollars-in-donor-funds-for-legal-costs/
Trump fundraising off of conviction after sinking millions of dollars in donor funds for legal costs
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"As allegations against Trump mount and the costs of defense rise, his campaign and political committees have quickly ramped up legal spending — and fundraising efforts to cover those expenses. From January to April of this year alone, Trump’s political operation covered more than $20 million of legal fees for lawyers representing the former president and his allies — totaling more than $81 million since the start of the 2024 election cycle. That breaks down to about $171,000 per day going to legal fees. ...
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"Trump’s political operation has spent about $184 million in legal fees since 2016, with the bulk of that spending in the years following the former president’s failed reelection bid in 2020. The bulk of those payments were made by Save America, Trump’s leadership PAC.
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"Trump Victory, a joint fundraising committee used primarily for small-dollar donations through the 2020 election, and Save America have also transferred funds to the Republican National Committee to cover legal costs. Between 2016 and 2022, those committees transferred over $32.2 million to the Republican Party’s national committee legal account. ...
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"Trump’s political committees — including his campaign, PAC and joint fundraising committee — have spent about $135.6 million with about $103.6 million paid out to firms and another $32.2 going to the RNC’s recount account to cover legal proceedings. ..."
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Trump donors also paid for his E. Jean Carroll sexual abuse trial!!
http://fortune.com/2024/02/02/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-fees-76-million-carroll-88-million-verdicts/
"Coupled with FEC data from 2022, AP’s review found that Save America, Trump’s presidential campaign and his other fundraising organizations have devoted $76.7 million to legal fees over the two years. ...
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"... Several of his most prominent lawyers have surpassed $5 million each in ***payments, all footed by the former president’s campaign donors, according to the FEC filings.*** Alina Habba, whose New Jersey-based law firm represented Trump in the sexual assault and defamation suit brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, has earned the most, $6 million. ..."
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Trump's valid PERSONAL legal expenses are probably zero. He is not a "financially damaged party." [Records might even show that he BENEFITED financially from the lawsuits.]
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Another concern is about how zealously Trump's DoJ -- puppet Pam Blondi and Trump personal attorney Bove -- will defend the People of the US against such a lawsuit.
Judge: Counsel, please ID yourself to the Court.
AG Blondi: Pam Blondi, for President Trump. Whoops! I mean, Pam Blondi, For The People.
... Judge: AG Blondi, your opening remarks, please.
AG Blondi: Golly, Judge, the People got nuttin' . We concede to my friend Donald Trump on all counts and think that he should get $250 BILLION, not $250 million. The People rest.
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In the past few days, in one his many news conferences about this lawsuit, Trump claimed AGAIN that the 2020 election was stolen and that they will prove it. (Who is "they"? Trump's outside lawyers like Sydney Powell, Cheesbro, Eastman, etc, or Trump's DoJ lawyers?)
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: This administrative process allows . . . .
for reimbursement of attorneys fees he incurred as a result of prosecutorial misconduct. Unfortunately, taxpayers foot the bill for this lawfare, but why should Trump has to eat the attorneys fees when he was wrongfully charged. Granted, the appellate courts have not formally ruled yet, but most legal experts think that Trump will be completely exonerated, and some of the corrupt prosecutors have already been exposed as corrupt. I don't want my tax dollars to pay Trump for his legal expenses, but this is the process that is set up when people are wrongfully charged and incur legal expenses as a result. When they are incarcerated, there is also consideration of loss of income, not only out of pocket expense. If he is denied during the administrative process, then he can sue, and will probably win anyway. If all he is asking for is an actual reimbursement, he should get it. If his claim includes exemplary or punitive damages, then he should go to trial and let a jury decide.
in the administrative process for prosecutorial misconduct,” it does not matter who provided the money used to pay his attorneys. But it is a moot point since the United States has sovereign immunity for malicious prosecution, abuse of process and invasion of privacy by prosecutors, the three claims Trump listed on his SF 95, so he would not be entitled to attorney fees or damages in the administrative process. There is an exception for malicious prosecution by the FBI for unlawful searches and seizures but even Judge Cannon indicated she believed the Mar a Lago search complied with the Fourth Amendment.
So while Trump was “wrongly charged” if Judge Cannon was correct that Jack Smith’s appointment as special prosecutor was unconstitutional - and if this true the Haligan -Comey prosecution probably also fails - Trump has no administrative remedy against the DOJ for that under the Federal Tort claims Act. And while he could assert constitutional claims in a Bivens lawsuit against Jack Smith, the United States also has sovereign immunity for such claims. So this is all just a Trump fantasy.
