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I remember him as the 'lone voice crying in the wilderness,' on all the Sunday morning TV magazine shows like Face the Nation, This Week, etc. etc. Today we know he was right. However, why was it so hard for so many of us to believe him?

Related Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-a-clarke/iraq-war-anniversary_b_2904285.html?utm_...

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Madison_Ohare436 reads

the first was 22 years ago.  because I remember watching live war CNN in the middle of the night nursing my daughter.  I have to admit that I didn't know much about Desert Storm or Iraqi Freedom until the past few years.  I have been torn with my emotions over these wars, having a brother that has done 4 tours since 911.  I like what the author of your article said, that we should thank and welcome home our soldiers.  

When we become a police state here, may our soldiers know they are our family first.  Thank you..

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BigPapasan474 reads

...launching the invasion of Iraq:

"to disarm Iraq" (carefully avoided the words 'nukes' or 'WMD' because he knew that was bullshit)

"to free its people" (no mention of concern for the Iraqi people in the run-up to the war; it was all about Saddam aiding terrorists and causing instability in the Middle East.  Bush didn't give a fuck about the Iraqi people)

"to defend the world from grave danger" (there were far fewer countries participating in the coalition than in the first Iraq war.  The "world" didn't seem that concerned.  Also, what grave danger?  There was no proof of nukes or WMD)

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer (America's Baghdad Bob) and Doug Feith are just some of those who should be on trial for war crimes.



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Related Link: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/bushiraq3.html

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inicky46399 reads

Related Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/tomas-young-letter-iraq_n_2908335.html

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Madison_Ohare484 reads

to bridging the gap with returning soldiers into society.  It's really so sad.  He keeps count of the death toll daily from combat and suicides.  God, if there is one.  Please help heal this nation.  Amen.

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goodtimesaddict600 reads

So many American and Iraq lives lost - for what?  For oil.  And to line the pockets of Haliburton and every other company that made a fortune off the war.  Pathetic.  Iraq was no threat to anyone.  They were that little fat kid that talked a lot of trash and treated his friends like crap, but in the end is truly harmless.  

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...launching the invasion of Iraq:

"to disarm Iraq" (carefully avoided the words 'nukes' or 'WMD' because he knew that was bullshit)

"to free its people" (no mention of concern for the Iraqi people in the run-up to the war; it was all about Saddam aiding terrorists and causing instability in the Middle East.  Bush didn't give a fuck about the Iraqi people)

"to defend the world from grave danger" (there were far fewer countries participating in the coalition than in the first Iraq war.  The "world" didn't seem that concerned.  Also, what grave danger?  There was no proof of nukes or WMD)

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Ari Fleischer (America's Baghdad Bob) and Doug Feith are just some of those who should be on trial for war crimes.



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Snowman39421 reads

FDR knew about the planned attack on Pearl Harbor!!!!

if you are still rehashing the Iraq war, you need to look at a CALENDAR!!!

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BigPapasan469 reads

..."Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it."

(It's a misquote, but it's been misquoted so many times that it's become the 'real' quote)

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BigPapasan592 reads

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/new-evidence-tony-blair-lied-about-ev

And unlike Bush, Cheney, et. al., Blair is reviled in England by many people and publicly insulted
for his Iraq policy.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4814900/Former-PM-Tony-Blair-reveals-people-are-still-very-abusive-over-his-decision-to-go-to-war-in-Iraq.html

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BigPapasan632 reads

...meeting with Pres. Bush in August, 2011.

"Slam dunk" -- does that sound familiar?

Watch Tenet's face when Colin Powell was addressing the UN.  You don't have to be a body language expert to see that he knew Powell when slinging a load of bullshit (even if Powell didn't know it himself).

And why did Tenet resign for "personal reasons?"

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Snowman39459 reads

sometimes you go to war with incomplete intelligence.

Ironic, SINCE YOU ALWAYS GO TO WAR WITH INCOMPLETE INTELLIGENCE.

The only lesson here is that there are no certainties.

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mattradd540 reads

No! And, you Republicans would like pretend the one trillion dollar debt incurred by Bush from the Iraq war, really belongs to Obama.  ;)

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ed2000479 reads

We have been subsidizing and paying for a good deal of both their defenses for the past 67 years.

Same goes for the Korean Peninsula since that war ended.

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mattradd442 reads

Any way. We wouldn't be spending that money if we didn't think it was in our best interest. Has going to war in Iraq proved to be in our best interest?  ;)

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ed2000405 reads

Quite frankly, I didn't read your OP. It must have been about Iraq.

I do not know how much it costs beyond a reasonable estimate of billions of dollars. Not having a dollar amount is irrelevant. I was simply correcting your misstatement regarding WWII.

Clearly we wouldn't have that presence in Germany and Japan had it not been for WWII.  But I won't follow your other misdirection stating that we are spending the money because it's in our own best interest. I could point out (but I am not) that you must believe that ALL federal dollars are spent only on things in our best interest.

You may have considered me to be just another gutter snipe (like some others here), but I backed up my disagreement and correction with actual facts (unlike most of the gutter snipes here).

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mattradd395 reads

was responding to, and then you make the statement that: "I could point out (but I am not) that you must believe that ALL federal dollars are spent only on things in our best interest." I never said that. I think you need to get on the same page before commenting.

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ed2000420 reads

I never stated that you said "it". I stated that you must believe "it". What you said was, "We wouldn't be spending that money if we didn't think it was in our best interest." That statement by you most certainly implies that federal spending inherently has "our" best interests at its root.

As far as your shock and "wow" factor that I didn't read your OP or Snow's response, what difference does that make? The title of your post, claiming we are no longer paying for WWII just happened to catch my eye. I do not need to know why someone made such a flat assertion in order to figure out that it is patently false.

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ed2000540 reads

I sincerely invite your explanation as to how any discussion of the Iraq war could possibly result in any interpretation of your flat assertion, that we are not still paying for WWII, is anything other than false.

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