Was the Second Amendment in obvious jeopardy when assault weapons were banned for ten years under Clinton and Bush?
Does anyone think that armed militias and private citizens can overthrow a "tyrannical" government?
This is as big a fable as the old, tired righty anti-Socialism shibboleth that "eventually you run out of other people's money." Most of Europe is even more socialistic than the US and they seem to be doing fine.
And that he was a follower of Nick Fuentes. You know, the infamous anti-Semite who dined with Trump at Mar-a-Lago a couple of years ago before turning against him over Trump's support of Israel. The guy who has had a long-running beef with Charlie Kirk?
This needs much more confirmation but, if true, will make the heads of certain righties here.....
This puts more meat on the bones...
"Tyler Robinson appears, from online postings, to have been a Groyper, a White Nationalist movement led by another far-right provocateur, Nick Fuentes, who regularly picked public fights with Kirk, urging his followers to out Kirk as a “fake conservative,” raising issue, most recently, with Kirk’s insistence that the Trump administration should release the Epstein files.
Fuentes, of course, is now distancing himself from having been engaged in a MAGA civil war with Kirk, as is another far-right nutjob, Laura Loomer, who has been busy deleting recent tweets in which she had criticized Kirk as a “charlatan” and “political opportunist” who engaged in “mental gymnastics” and “stabs Trump in the back,” and wrote that she didn’t “ever want to hear Charlie Kirk claim he is pro-Trump ever again.”
More on Tyler Robinson: the messages etched into the bullets were not, in fact, pro-trans, as the media and political ecosystem on the far right initially asserted, but rather, from a video game known for its satirical use of fascist imagery, which terminally online Groypers are known to have co-opted to be able to, in essence, hide in plain view.
Still more: the parents are registered Republicans, and the father, Matt Robinson, seen in an online photo wearing a T-shirt repping the far-right Three Percenter movement, “is a Republican for Trump,” according to the grandmother, Debbie Robinson."
The full article....
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Says parent are republican. Father was a deputy. Son was "unverified". Son had discussions how he turning point and how Kirk spread hate messaging with people recently. (excerpt from article below)
"However, family members said Robinson had become “more political in recent years,” expressed negative views of Kirk and told family members he believed the Turning Point USA founder was “full of hate and spreading hate,” Cox said.
He revealed that the family member told investigators that at a recent family dinner, Robinson had mentioned Kirk’s upcoming Utah Valley event, and “they talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had.”
Very interesting. It's critical that we learn more about his political ideology and motive. It's unlikely that the shooter will be talking to law enforcement, so it's time for good old-fashioned investigative reporting to step up.
Exactly..... glad he got caught alive.
Funny how liberal propagandist (social media) are all over showing pictures of his family when he was in high school saying..... SEE he is a republican. Yet he is unregistered but his parents are republican. He dad is a deputy. They are trying to distance on this one.
But can't kids have different ideologies than parents?
Yet there are social media pictures of him with trans flag, antifa shirts, etc. Again have no clue if real or fake as of yet. But showing this.
Conservative on Conservative crime here?
If it is...shit wouldn't that be a ball buster for the right.
Rigthies be ditching righties.
So if we find out that the shooter was some extreme right-wing fanatic what are the chances the righties on this board will apologize? I'd say zero chance. They'll just slither away instead.
Here's an excerpt from an account published by The Economic Times
":Journalist and former MSNBC anchor David Shuster on Friday claimed that Robinson reportedly admired Fuentes.
“According to Utah officials + police interviews with his family, Tyler Robinson hated Charlie Kirk because Kirk wasn't conservative enough. (Robinson reportedly admired Nick Fuentes). GOPer's now scrubbing X posts about dems faster than DOJ erases Trump name in Epstein files,” he said on X," ..
The entire article is attached.
Has the right now hooked their wagon to a new jackass?? Nick Fuentes??
I never realized that there might be this faction of republican incells who are so fucked in the brain that they'll resort to killing their own, so someone that is kinda in their tribe. In fucking creditable
White on white crime, in a red republican state, by a holy own republican family...it's like WTF.
I have no words now...
The link is a background story about the man who assassinated Charlie Kirk. Tyler Robinson was not a member of a racial minority, not Hispanic, not an illegal immigrant, and had no criminal history. He came from a staunchly Republican family of the Mormon faith, who had a strong gun culture. Robinson was smart and even got a scholarship to learn to be an electrician. However, you likely won't hear about these characteristics from the right wing / MAGA biased media, as it doesn't fit their narrative to "blame it on the radical lefty liberals".
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http://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/us/politics/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk.html
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On another topic, I noticed how the head of the FBI Kash Patel was taking public credit for how the agency captured the perp in a record 33 hours. The fact is Tyler's father recognized him from the videos, got him to confess to the killing, then consulted with their pastor and had Tyler turn himself in the authorities. The FBI had little to do with it, other than securing the surveillance videos, but Patel was more than willing to grandstand and get unearned credit for the "takedown". How pathetic.
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that some of his rounds had messages on them supporting transexuals, and that he pulled the trigger at precisely the moment that Kirk was about to answer a question from the crowd about transexual shootings. I suppose you think this is pure coincidence? The bullet with the tranny support message just happened to be in the box of ammo he purchased? It was just poor timing on the shooter's part that he pulled the trigger after the tranny question was asked, but before Kirk could give his answer. The odds of this being completely random are billions to one, but you won't hear about this important connection to the motivation of the shooter from edinathens, as it doesn't fit his narrative of deflection. See the irony in your point, Eddie?
"That’s partly because of the way "mass shooting" is defined and tracked and partly because the data that is collected overwhelmingly shows that the majority of shootings are perpetrated by men who are not transgender."
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https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/09/trans-people-mass-shootings-gun-violence/
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In the case of Robinson, it's a irrelevant argument because there's no evidence he was ever transgender. However, he did love firearms and violent video games.
Statistically more prone? Yes. But they are such a small segment of the population that their total numbers are not high.
Instead of being more prone to commit violence, research shows that transgender people are disproportionately affected by violence, including gun violence.
- Higher victimization rate: transgender people are four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime
- Significant gun violence impact: a firearm is used in over 70% of homicides against transgender people
- Hate-fueled violence: Black transgender women are disproportionately affected
The "internet" maybe? No attribution at all CKraciSt? But thanks for posting it again. I will guess it will come back to bite you in the ass down the road, but that's just a guess. 
That will never happen here.
You think from 150 yards away the shooter could hear Kirk being asked about mass shootings?
That is almost literally insane.
Do you think it is possible they had audio amplifiers and large speakers spread throughout the area so all can hear? …..Even at 150 + yards
You do not know that they did or did not.
Did you not notice Kirk was holding a microphone when he was shot?
But do you really believe the shooter was listening while he lined up his kill shot, waiting for mass shootings to be mentioned, and pulled the trigger at the perfect moment? If so, you are the most gullible hack imaginable.
All your fever dreams about felching must have rotted your brain.
Anyway, yes he had a microphone, so why did you ask if the shooter could hear him. Neither you nor I know what the shooter was or was not listing to or thinking about or waiting for. Unless you want to claim to be clairvoyant.
It is clearly you, you are constantly seeing engaged in homosexual acts, in your clairvoyant visions.
Rave On
Please come back when you can write in clear English. And, as usual, you are projecting about your fixation with felching and other homosexual acts.
And lying and dishonestly twisting and distorting what I and others say.
Incomprehensible? So you admit you are not smart enough to comprehend anything.
Projecting? You are the one constituently talking about homosexual acts.
I simply point out you are doing so.
One more thing…..well never mind you are not savvy to understand.
Rave on
I don't need to distort what you say. Its toxicity is on display for all to see and be disgusted by.
As for "not smart enough," that would be FelchQueen. Not smart enough to write a clear, concise English sentence.
And this board well knows your obsession with felching.
You no longer mention it ONLY because I have busted and humiliated you about it for so long. So now you transparently try to use that against me. But here's a hint: it's not working. Now, go felch yourself.
What this board actually well knows is your lack of integrity, constant lying, projecting and repugnant propensity for talking about and engaging in your escapades in the world of your bazar homosexual activates. You just cannot Cum….to terms with it .
The only one you busted is yourself for lying.
Accusing others of doing what you do (as you always do) is the classic way of diverting attention from yourself.
Funny how even when exposed you are still desperately are grasping at straws. More proof you cannot cum…to terms with it.
It is pathetic but fun to watch.
Rave on
"What this board actually well knows is" your constant lies about me and everything else. Not to mention your transparent mendacity when BPS proved you are actually 85. Your denial rings hollow.
Your accusations of homosexuality are transparent projections.
You need to....
Robinson never served in the military or law enforcement and therefore couldn't have received professional training as a sniper, but you would have us believe he laid in prone position dressed in black under the sun for who knows how long, keeping his scope's cross-hairs constantly trained on Kirk's throat, waiting for someone in the audience to ask a trans question, so he could pull the trigger at that exact moment and hit his target.
And he's too toxically enraged and stupid to admit it.
“Robinson never served in the military or law enforcement “ that is true
Other than that
At this point you nor I know what if any (private) training he may or may not had. Investigators may know.
I never said suggested or implied in any way that the shooter,
“he laid in prone position dressed in black under the sun for who knows how long, keeping his scope's cross-hairs constantly trained on Kirk's throat, waiting for someone in the audience to ask a trans question, so he could pull the trigger at that exact moment and hit his target.”
Or are you too clairvoyant?
But go ahead and continue your lies misrepresenting, twisting and distorting what I say
Rave On
Is this y'alls way of trying to deflect from the truth by moving goal posts? Nick Fuentes and Charlie Kirk have apparently been in some sort of a political war, The Groyper War, since 2019. I notice that MAGA tries to make everyone else think they're crazy by throwing out their own truths and mocking it as if there's no way it could be true. Trump came out so quick to say it was a radical left without an ounce of proof, Andrew Tate and others called for a civil war. Come to find out, it was a white male who's family is MAGA that shot him. All of MAGA are bat-shit crazy. It's a MAGA vs MAGA issue, deal with it.
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The authorities have all his devices and will examine everything he's written and read. The truth is in there somewhere. What's remarkable at this point is how desperate the righties are to deny he could have been a Fuentes freak so they can hold onto their right-wing grievance.
It’s going to take some time, but I’m pretty sure we’ll find out what kind of politics motivated him. While it’s possible this could be a Gropyer inspired assassination, I still think a left wing motivation seems more likely based on what we know at the current time.
We don't know shit at this time about his motive. Considering the environment he grew up in, there is no reason to think he has an extreme left-wing ideology. It's much more likely that he's another lost young man to guns, violent video games, and on-line right-wing hate.
You don’t think radicals can come from conservative families?
Nobody knows his motive unless he, or a witness close to him, starts to talk or digital evidence is discovered. Of course, radicals can come from conservative families. However, they would most likely be right-wing radicals. I'm content to let law enforcement and the press investigate and report their findings.
"I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
Was the Second Amendment in obvious jeopardy when assault weapons were banned for ten years under Clinton and Bush?
Does anyone think that armed militias and private citizens can overthrow a "tyrannical" government?
This is as big a fable as the old, tired righty anti-Socialism shibboleth that "eventually you run out of other people's money." Most of Europe is even more socialistic than the US and they seem to be doing fine.
He’s noting the cost of the Second Amendment. Just like our auto centric culture costs us over 40,000 deaths per year. Charlie also noted that while we work to defend the Second Amendment, we also work to reduce gun deaths.
what the right has done "to reduce gun deaths?" And please don't tell us about NRA gun safety programs and other window dressing.
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How or what did Charlie say or do to “work to reduce gun deaths.“
Did he put together a bill for congress to work on?
How influential was he??
Can’t help but feel that anything put forward by him would be shot down in a republican congress
So, dig up something… I’m curious
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There is a difference. Except in rare instances, death by auto or airplane is by accident or negligence, and not intentional. Except in rare instances, death by gunfire is intentional, and not by accident of negligence. As a population we fear the latter more than the former, because it's very "personal".
As Trump would typically phrase it when talking about others...... He died like a dog.....
I don't think this could have happened to more deserving person.. You live by sword...You die by the sword..
By the way. I saw the unedited video. I even downloaded on my phone. It was posted on TikTok before the platform took it down... What a shot..
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