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...while it's certainly true that should Obama be the nominee in 2012, many Democrats would vote for him. However, his willingness to negotiate down from a position of power has gone from irritating the base to outright pissing them off. Many will opt to just stay home.

That's already happened. 70% of new voters who voted for Obama in 2008 decided to stay home in 2010. Without the support of the youth vote, the Democrats can't win elections.

This shouldn't really be news to anyone, but I ran across this piece and thought I should post it because GaG and I had a discussion about this a few days back.

What I'd like to note here is that Obama's support among Republicans have not gone up after this tax deal. And now among independents, Mitt Romney now has higher approval ratings than Obama.  

I would also note that according to Olbermann the other night, Bernie Sander's filibuster of this tax deal crashed the Senate's server.

Priapus532491 reads

The link I furnished below, an average of 6 polls, shows BHO's approval rating somewhat higher . While the results aren't great, certainly higher than ratings that Reagan & Clinton had at comparable stages in their Presidency.

Too early to gauge results of a tax plan that hasn't even passed the House yet & signed into law, but poll I saw on MSNBC showed 68% of the public approving of the poll ( including 68% of Dems ).

Romney, at this stage, only leads BHO by 2 %, which falls into the margin of error. Still, IMO, I think Romney has best chance of beating BHO in '12.

All that being said, there are parts of the tax plan I hate, particulary the estate tax exemption
on estates 5 million & over; fucking awful !

platypussy531155 reads

Quest for attention.
Either that or he took a few days off to pal around with Rjai.

Priapus531921 reads

why do I say "Weasel Jimmy" ? Now friends with Liorr, but his past says something different :

Ban liorr! Or take his posting privileges away. eOm
Posted by gatorjimmy  , 5/31/2010 8:56:49 AM   [gatorjimmy has 28 reviews]

& be sure to read link below :

You gotta love this board-------LOL !

platypussy53975 reads

that you were sending me a PM, or did you send it to Jimmy?
BTW, I am not friends with liorr. I just like to see him around to entertain us.

Weasels are cute little animals, aren't they?  

Priapus531291 reads

speaking of the depicted object, I'll send you a BM rather than a PM--------it's what you deserve----------;)

platypussy532308 reads

Wait a minute. I keep my posts to you in good humor. There is no reason to insult me.

BTW, I hate hockey.

Timbow1317 reads

Posted By: Priapus53
why do I say "Weasel Jimmy" ? Now friends with Liorr, but his past says something different :

Ban liorr! Or take his posting privileges away. eOm
Posted by gatorjimmy  , 5/31/2010 8:56:49 AM   [gatorjimmy has 28 reviews]

& be sure to read link below :

You gotta love this board-------LOL !

the wave is approaching, and now it's gone by, and the swell is going up, and now it's going down, and the tide is rising but soon it will be falling.

Bottom line, check back in several weeks before the next election, and then test the waters.

Let's be realistic. If Obama is the Democrat candidate for Pres in 2012; even Democrats who aren't fond of him would still vote for him against, say, a Pat Buchanan as the Republican nominee. Yes?

Support requires agreement across MANY issues; whereas lack of support can be engendered over a single issue.

Nevertheless, when people vote, they usually vote for what they consider "least bad."

...while it's certainly true that should Obama be the nominee in 2012, many Democrats would vote for him. However, his willingness to negotiate down from a position of power has gone from irritating the base to outright pissing them off. Many will opt to just stay home.

That's already happened. 70% of new voters who voted for Obama in 2008 decided to stay home in 2010. Without the support of the youth vote, the Democrats can't win elections.

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