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Priapus53 1714 reads
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1 / 31

any other explanation is bullshit. As far as conspiracy theories, Madison, be sure to check the link below.

On this board, Madison, we have a fellow who shares your "philosophies" ; maybe you 2 can hook up & he can be your "ATF hobbyist"---:)

Lastly , Madison , is that you in below pic, or am I mistaken ?--------;)



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mattradd 40 Reviews 1504 reads
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2 / 31

Ya, if you "watch" the news you will get various biases, but unless you've been an MIA, kidnapped and held against your will, or have been through special training, like SERE training that the USAF provides, you have no idea about what "brainwashing" is. Instead of "watching" the news try reading the news from various news sources.

As far as the twin towers, I think Phil gave an excellent argument as to why it was not our govt who planned it, orchestrated it and carried it out.

But, I would just say, as the old saying says: "The simplest explanation is more likely the correct one." See the link on Occam's Razor

Though, as his theory points out, that does not end the discussion and investigation into an issue, to adjust one's beliefs and behaviors in the opposite side of the simple explanation with little or no evidence which refutes it, is not rational.

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marikod 1 Reviews 3206 reads
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3 / 31

contingency fee, any part,  in the lawsuit filed against him by Ms. Wilson.

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 1082 reads
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4 / 31

...but I don't put much weight behind them.

1) 99.9% of the conspiracy theories behind the Fed is bullshit, and is just propaganda to try to make rich people richer at the expense of the poor. I'll explain if you like.

2) There is no conspiracy behind the global elite. Rich people want what they have always wanted: and that is everything. I doesn't matter how they do this, so much as something is done to stop them.

3) Democrats make the grave mistake to trust George Bush when he talked about Iraq and terrorism. This is a man who is incapable of telling the truth ever. To trust his word on how and why 9-11 happened is stupid. Fool me once, shame on...don't get fooled again and all.

If a conspiracy exists, I'd be willing to bet that it was set up by Wall Street. Would they be above such a horrible deed? How many Americans did they kick out of their homes to make a buck? How many Iraqis did they like to see killed so they could make a buck?

Priapus53 2077 reads
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5 / 31

who do you think is responsible besides OBL & Al-qaeda for 9/11 ? Michael Moore ?!

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Madison_Ohare See my TER Reviews 6652 reads
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6 / 31

I will never get that image out of my mind, those poor people, leaping to their death.  It must have been the biggest decision of their life.  I do not watch the news because I think main stream media has brain-washed us with what to believe.  The more research via internet on the federal reserve, global elite, different puppets (doesn't matter if their name has a D or R behind)  I try not to think about to much because it is very painful to think that we are the sheep being lead to the slaughter, sold out by both parties.  What are your thoughts on the attack on the twin towers?  and where this country is heading...Thanks, Madison

dncphil 16 Reviews 1033 reads
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7 / 31

I have handled more conspiracy cases than I can count.  I think there may have been two where no one talked, and they only involved conspiracies of 5 people at the most.  Even in conspiracies of two people, one or both will often blab.

The scope of something like 9-11 would require hunreds of people.  Of course, the number varies depending on which conspiracy theory you believe, but just use one as an example:

There is a theory that the towers were imploded.  If you have read about imploding buildings, you know how many people it takes and how long it takes to set up. The thought of a couple experts directing a slew of people to run around both buildings in the Trade Center is pretty daunting.  

Also, you have hundreds of security guards routinely wandering the building.  This is not the type of thing you set up in a day, so you have shifts of guards.  I assume that you don't want them seeing or saying anything.  Do you bribe them?  How do you bribe a dozen guards, knowing in advance that not one will rat out the group? And none ever did.

Did the Pres know in advance?  If so, I assume he didn't actually plant the bombs.  How many people are their between the president and the actual perpetrators? All mum.

I assume that the Pres, if he was involved, did not want to get caught.  However, you know that there will be investigators from 1,000 agencies, some outside the scope of the jurisdiction of the federal.  Thousands of people searching for evidence on every level.  How is he going to guarantee, in advance, that none of them will find something that blows the lid?  

Indeed, how can he be sure the press would remain silent in face of such a huge scar to the national psyche.

Finally, there is a theory that the buildings wouldn't fall that way.  Funny.  There are 1,000 schools of architectre and engineering in the United States, many on campuses that are traditionally hostile to Bush. Likewise, there are another 5,000 departments in France, Italy, Germany, Japan, etc.

there are more engineering and architectural professional organizations than I could guess at.  And the president knows in advance that not one will see this impossible feat and publish an article.

Remember "Rather-gate?"  One flaw in the document, the footnotes, were picked up by dozens of examiners around the country, until the flaw was exposed.

But with 9-11, it is supposed to be impossible that the buildings would collapse that way, but not one expert at Harvard, Yale, UCLA, or any of 1,000 schools says, "Peep"

Posted By: Madison_Ohare
I will never get that image out of my mind, those poor people, leaping to their death.  It must have been the biggest decision of their life.  I do not watch the news because I think main stream media has brain-washed us with what to believe.  The more research via internet on the federal reserve, global elite, different puppets (doesn't matter if their name has a D or R behind)  I try not to think about to much because it is very painful to think that we are the sheep being lead to the slaughter, sold out by both parties.  What are your thoughts on the attack on the twin towers?  and where this country is heading...Thanks, Madison

dncphil 16 Reviews 1214 reads
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8 / 31

Al Qaeda and bin Laden admitted it.

If it wasn't them, wouldn't they want to expose the real culprit?

Fair_Use 29 Reviews 1178 reads
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9 / 31

You are right, but unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do about it.  Its long pass the point of turning anything back, making a correction or setting a new course.  I would hang on to those images in your mind as a reminder, as you go about your daily life, that the best anyone can hope for is a carved out existence under the radar.

dncphil 16 Reviews 1029 reads
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10 / 31

It isn't good to believe what the media feeds you. But you have to question the sceptics also.

There are thousands of questions that have to be answered before a conspiracy makes sense.  I posed a handfull above.

Until those can be answered, you are just disbelieving the "media" and accepting something that you can't even understand.

Occam's Razor is a good rule.  The huge complexity of pulling of a massive conspiracy involving thousands of people is a leap of faith greater than anything religion wants anyone to swallow.

mattradd 40 Reviews 1169 reads
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11 / 31

filing suit against P diddy, on behalf of  Ms. Wilson. If that's the case, can the court charge you with filing a frivolous lawsuit and fine you! :)

Fair_Use 29 Reviews 1992 reads
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12 / 31

I am skeptical of the skeptics.  I agree there are thousands of questions, but it is naive to think they will be answered.  At least not answered honestly.  

I doubt conspiracy is really the right word for what we are talking about.  It more like business as usual involving thousands of people.  The leap of faith is more in the corner of people that believe the simple answer is only the boogieman terrorist.  If anything, those are the conspiracy nuts.

Madison_Ohare See my TER Reviews 2144 reads
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13 / 31

agreed, there is no boogieman terrorist or devil for that matter.  Religion and Politics have been used to control the masses with fear.  I believe our generation will see the truth exposed.  Everything was strategically planned by these greedy, evil people.

Posted By: Fair_Use
I am skeptical of the skeptics.  I agree there are thousands of questions, but it is naive to think they will be answered.  At least not answered honestly.  

I doubt conspiracy is really the right word for what we are talking about.  It more like business as usual involving thousands of people.  The leap of faith is more in the corner of people that believe the simple answer is only the boogieman terrorist.  If anything, those are the conspiracy nuts.

charlie445 3 Reviews 1278 reads
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14 / 31

It was simply a well executed terrorist attack on the US. The attack was not totally successful though. One of the aircraft never hit its intended target. Dont worry though, the world is paying a huge price for the attack. The capitalist's lackeys are running amuck world wide and there is no end in sight.
They now have a pretense to subjugate the entire planet in the name of the war on terror. Their real goal is to eliminate the middle class on a global scale. These times may be the beginning of the new dark ages!

loveboat 1215 reads
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15 / 31

If you go to their website, see link below they don't list 9/11 as a crime of Osama Bin Laden.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists

Please contact them and let them know as you sound so sure.

Priapus53 1516 reads
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16 / 31

so who is ? Perhaps George Bush & the governments of the U.S. & Israel ? Maybe gremlins did it !

Next you'll be telling me that you believe in the
"Roswell UFO cover up"--------:)-----LMFAO !

marikod 1 Reviews 924 reads
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17 / 31

that would be fair compensation for my services and enough to pay any "fine."

      This is why you should have gone to law school, Matt.

Priapus53 1237 reads
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18 / 31

jeez----SUCH sensitivity. I'm sure the FBI listing was an oversight.

If anyone DOESN'T think Bin-Laden was responsible for 9/11, please list your reasons in this thread.

GaGambler 1212 reads
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19 / 31

Would you care to try that third grade math question again? 40% of $1,000,000,000.00 = ?

Which law school was it that you graduated from? lmao

and I hope you have noticed that I did not call our newest female poster any deragatory names, such as moron or idiot. I won't accuse her of anything, her words will accomplish the task quite nicely.

marikod 1 Reviews 1423 reads
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20 / 31

with you. With that fee, I could buy the House of Krug, all of Diddy's rap records, and maybe Exxon as well.

    Besides, maybe I meant 100 zillion. She did say Diddy had stolen a poker chip from her  with 100 zillion. I bet you can't tell me what 40% of 100 zillion is Mr. Smart Ass.

     And you guys think Octavia is off the wall.   By the way, it is our "newest female former poster."

marikod 1 Reviews 814 reads
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21 / 31

evidence to have probable cause to charge him with that crime.

      Everything KSM told them was the product of torture and would be inadmissible in court are arguably unreliable to even charge Bin Laden.

      The real reason, I suspect, is that if they charge him with a crime they are concerned he will be entitled to the rights of any criminal suspect. So I think they are treating him as an Unlawful combatant" or whatever the current designation is for the bad guys taht we plan to kill on sight.

mattradd 40 Reviews 995 reads
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22 / 31

was business law. Law never came up on my radar after that, in that I can't remember any classes being offered in under-grad. Perhaps you're right! Think it's too late??? :)

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mattradd 40 Reviews 1202 reads
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holeydiver 113 Reviews 1547 reads
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25 / 31

The conspiracy theorists are the pawns pushing the two party line. They like to twist the truth to fit their agenda. Everybody is a nut except them. And their the biggest can of stale peanuts on the Walmart shelf.

loveboat 1740 reads
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26 / 31

Don't kill the messenger as the saying goes - I have not implied anything - I am stating things as they are shown by the authority who knows more then you or I do.  They have stated his crimes on their website and what he is wanted for. So no need to come after me. As I said since you are so sure of the fact I suggest you contact them and let them know of their error.

The questions you raised should be directed to the FBI, what I think is irrelevant.

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zisk 86 Reviews 2270 reads
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27 / 31

At least you got one thing right.

dncphil 16 Reviews 1553 reads
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28 / 31

No terrorists there. All hype believed by conspiracy nuts.

9-11 never happened. The Trade Center was not bombed under Clinton.  The night clubs in Bali were never bombed. The subways in London and Madrid were never bombed. The embassies in Africa and the Cole were never attacked.  No one tried to blow up Time Square or blow up a plane above Detroit on Christmas or stuff his shoes with explosives. there was no bombing that went bad in London ending at the airport (or was it Edinbourgh).  The plot to blow up the German trains was a figment of Bush's imagination. There  was no plot to blow up Danish newspapers, and the plots againt the cartoonist in Seatle are hype. Salman Rushdie is safe to come home. Van Gogh was not stabbed to death. There were never suicide bombings in Tel Aviv.  There was never a bombing of that wedding in Jordon, churches in Cairo, or synagogues in Rome or Istambul. And the Munich Olympics were a success and everyone on the Achille Loro and the flight over Lockerbie had a bon voyage, and don't deserve their money back.

I hate to run through it all, but if you think there is a "leap of faith" to think that there are terrorists, you really have to be engaging in willful blindness.  Nope no conspiracy there.


Posted By: Madison_Ohare
agreed, there is no boogieman terrorist or devil for that matter.  Religion and Politics have been used to control the masses with fear.  I believe our generation will see the truth exposed.  Everything was strategically planned by these greedy, evil people.
Posted By: Fair_Use
I am skeptical of the skeptics.  I agree there are thousands of questions, but it is naive to think they will be answered.  At least not answered honestly.  

I doubt conspiracy is really the right word for what we are talking about.  It more like business as usual involving thousands of people.  The leap of faith is more in the corner of people that believe the simple answer is only the boogieman terrorist.  If anything, those are the conspiracy nuts.

Fair_Use 29 Reviews 1136 reads
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29 / 31

Hang in there.  Your post 911 paranoia will catch on.  Just keep your nose to the wheel, and Good Lord willing, a Sasquatch will kiss you on the lips.  I read it in the playbook, so it must be true.

dncphil 16 Reviews 1124 reads
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30 / 31


I refer to dozens of incidents that you do not deny happened.
If they have no connection, you are correct and I am paranoid.
If they do, I am right and you are blind.

Posted By: Fair_Use
Hang in there.  Your post 911 paranoia will catch on.  Just keep your nose to the wheel, and Good Lord willing, a Sasquatch will kiss you on the lips.  I read it in the playbook, so it must be true.

Fair_Use 29 Reviews 1257 reads
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31 / 31

While I am not going to deny your conspiracy theory events happened, you have every right to believe in them.

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