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inicky46 61 Reviews 220 reads
posted
1 / 18

No doubt all you righties will be thrilled and, even though you NEVER believe anything the Times publishes, you will rush to believe this....Since the Times is behind a pay wall, as a public service I have copied and pasted much of the article but it's just too long to copy and paste the entire thing. So a link is provided at the end for those of you who are subscribers.
"The Democratic Party Faces A Voter Registration Crises
The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters long before they even go to the polls.

Of the 30 states that track voter registration by political party, Democrats lost ground to Republicans in every single one between the 2020 and 2024 elections — and often by a lot.

That four-year swing toward the Republicans adds up to 4.5 million voters, a deep political hole that could take years for Democrats to climb out from.
The stampede away from the Democratic Party is occurring in battleground states, the bluest states and the reddest states, too, according to a new analysis of voter registration data by The New York Times. The analysis used voter registration data compiled by L2, a nonpartisan data firm.Few measurements reflect the luster of a political party’s brand more clearly than the choice by voters to identify with it — whether they register on a clipboard in a supermarket parking lot, at the Department of Motor Vehicles or in the comfort of their own home.

And fewer and fewer Americans are choosing to be Democrats.

In fact, for the first time since 2018, more new voters nationwide chose to be Republicans than Democrats last year.

All told, Democrats lost about 2.1 million registered voters between the 2020 and 2024 elections in the 30 states, along with Washington, D.C., that allow people to register with a political party. (In the remaining 20 states, voters do not register with a political party.) Republicans gained 2.4 million.

There are still more Democrats registered nationwide than Republicans, partly because of big blue states like California allow people to register by party, while red states like Texas do not. But the trajectory is troublesome for Democrats, and there are growing tensions over what to do about it.

Democrats went from nearly an 11-percentage-point edge over Republicans on Election Day 2020 in those places with partisan registration, to just over a 6-percentage-point edge in 2024.
That swing helps to explain President Trump’s success last year, when he won the popular vote for the first time, swept the swing states and roared back to the White House.

“I don’t want to say, ‘The death cycle of the Democratic Party,’ but there seems to be no end to this,” said Michael Pruser, who tracks voter registration closely as the director of data science for Decision Desk HQ, an election-analysis site. “There is no silver lining or cavalry coming across the hill. This is month after month, year after year.”

The shifts also previewed Democratic weaknesses in 2024. The party saw some of its steepest declines in registration among men and younger voters, the Times analysis found — two constituencies that swung sharply toward Mr. Trump.

All four presidential battleground states covered by the Times analysis — Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina and Pennsylvania — showed significant Democratic erosion.

In North Carolina, Republicans erased roughly 95 percent of the registration advantage that Democrats held in the fall of 2020, according to state records as of this summer. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the steepest percentage-point plunge of any state but West Virginia between 2020 and 2024. The share of voters choosing to register with either party went down after the state adopted an automatic voter registration system, but the Democratic decline allowed Republicans to briefly surpass Democrats earlier this year.
For many years, more and more voters have been registering as independents or unaffiliated, sapping both parties’ rolls. More recently, however, that growth has come mostly at the expense of Democrats.

Top Democratic strategists say the party’s nationwide registration decline is a hidden-in-plain-sight crisis that must be reversed before the 2028 election.

Consider this: In 2018, Democrats accounted for 34 percent of new voter registrations nationwide, while Republicans were only 20 percent. Yet by 2024, Republicans had overtaken Democrats among new registrants.

In six years, the G.O.P.’s share rose by 9 percentage points; the Democratic share dropped nearly 8 points.
The Times compiled registration data from L2 and compared it to state records across the country to show the scope of the registration decline for Democrats, and interviewed more than two dozen party strategists and officials involved in registration efforts.
“We fell asleep at the switch,” said Maria Cardona, a veteran party strategist and longtime member of the Democratic National Committee.

But Democrats are divided and flummoxed over what to do.

For years, the left has relied on a sprawling network of nonprofits — which solicit donations from people whose identities they need not disclose — to register Black, Latino and younger voters. Though the groups are technically nonpartisan, the underlying assumption has been that most new voters registering would vote Democratic.

Mr. Trump upended that calculation with the inroads he made with working-class nonwhite voters.

“You can’t just register a young Latino or a young Black voter and assume that they’re going to know that it’s Democrats that have the best policies,” Ms. Cardona said.

Behind the scenes, a fierce fight is underway over how Democrats should address their sagging voter registration numbers and which groups should receive funding to do the work. It’s a battle with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake, pitting partisans against philanthropists and some of the Democratic Party’s most important constituencies against one another.
Voter registration is an important barometer of a state’s political tilt, even if it doesn’t necessarily predict the outcome of the next election.

Experts sometimes call it a lagging indicator, because people typically stop voting with a party years before they formally register with a new one. Kentucky and West Virginia, for example, each flipped to a Republican registration advantage only in recent years, though both states turned red in presidential contests long ago.

Tom Bonier, one of the Democratic Party’s leading experts on voter registration trends, spent much of 2024 downplaying the seriousness of his party’s registration woes. He has now come around.

“I was wrong,” he said in an interview.

“Clearly, in retrospect, we can say the Democratic Party had dug itself in too deep a hole in the preceding four years for the Harris campaign to dig itself out in the last few months,” added Mr. Bonier, referring to the 2024 bid by former Vice President Kamala Harris. He now calls the registration figures “a big flashing red alert.”
Grim milestones of Democratic decline have been piling up."

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cks175 51 Reviews 32 reads
posted
2 / 18
crsm27 32 Reviews 19 reads
posted
3 / 18

Still.... .Polls dont mean shit and I don't believe anything the NYT writes.

 
I can see that the messaging is the issue.   The messaging for the past 10 years or so is TRUMP BAD.... that is it.  Or if anything happens.... TRUMPS FAULT.

 
Then they have the extreme stuff..... Trans everything, extreme abortion rights (up until birth), etc.

 
NOW at the same time..... Republicans need to be careful.  They are falling into the same cycle or starting that same cycle.  If something is "bad".... Bidens fault type bullshit.   Yes some things are.   But like what i have been saying about tariffs.... they could possibly backfire on Trump but only time will tell.    

 
I am also against his push to lower interest rates.   He needs to keep them right where they are for about 1 more year or see how this tariff situation goes before lowering rates.   To be honest.... I think he wants to lower the rates now incase his tariff strategy backfires, so things stay going well.   OR if the tariff strategy works and lower rates will cause the economy to explode (good way, but could cause inflation in certain areas).... but also could cause it to possibly CRASH very quickly if a hiccup happens.   Right now we need more of a slow and steady approach.  Which Trump isn't in favor of... or his EGO wont allow it.

RespectfulRobert 35 reads
posted
4 / 18

They seem to have the biggest megaphones and they strike fear in more moderate Democrats, but it's poling data and actual voter turn out that will hammer the point home. We are already seeing some changes, like the way Gavin Newsome now talks about the problems with bio men playing in female sports, and the fact that Mayor Pete removed his pronouns from his social media accounts. Subtle changes to be sure, but it is finally moving in the right (pun unintended) direction.
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The bigger concern is if our far Left flank gets so upset about the pushback that they splinter off into a third party. That would be a problem that time, and new ideas, may not be able to solve.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 19 reads
posted
5 / 18

This is unusually fair-minded for the NYT and is a hell of lot more relevant than the long quotation posts we get from Snowturd that are more than a year old.   I appreciate your work in posting this.  It confirms what I have been thinking ever sense the election based on the reactions of Dem politicians to the things Trump has been doing.  

RespectfulRobert 11 reads
posted
6 / 18

Seems like I hit a nerve and triggered you for telling an obvious truth, Bill?  
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And yes, you're off track again. The extremists within our party hold far too much influence, despite being a clear minority. It takes principled, strong willed peeps to push back against deeply misguided ideas. The 'Defund the Police' debacle is a perfect example.  
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I still remember when Hillary Clinton said "All Lives Matter" only to completely reverse her stance the very next day to appease the radical fringe. How many votes were lost due to that kind of pandering?  
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Today’s version of that misstep is the refusal to acknowledge biological realities in sports, pretending it's somehow bigoted to suggest that biological males should compete with other biological males. It’s just another classic 80/20 issue that Democrats need the courage to confront head on.

RespectfulRobert 10 reads
posted
7 / 18

Thank you for doing the work for me. ;)

snafu929 20 Reviews 10 reads
posted
8 / 18

It's also the DEMOCRATS who keep pushing the Trans bullshit on the kids.  For the most part, conservatives don't give two shits what adults do to themselves but they (I) don't want them trying to convince 4 or 12 year old kids their confusion is solved by swallowing puberty blockers until they turn 18.  Actually, in Minnesota, we're now a sanctuary state for underage medical destructive surgery as well as full term abortion.  You know, as long as a "doctor" says it for the health (physical OR MENTAL) of the mother.  We have many doctors in our state that will gladly write a script for an abortion to some pissed or crazy woman who decides in the last couple weeks to coat hanger her red headed kid just because she's mad Gerry went fucking golfing instead of working on the deck and now she's in "mental anguish" over the clump of cells ready to travel thru the birth canal.  This is how real this is and how evil the democratic party is.

inicky46 61 Reviews 7 reads
posted
9 / 18

for those up to 18 years after birth. Like snafuTheDimwit.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 28 reads
posted
10 / 18

There you have it - the reason why righties are so dumb.

crsm27 32 Reviews 9 reads
posted
11 / 18

WRONG.... many do.   They why don't they agree to "limits".   LIke no abortions after 24 weeks?   Serious question?

crsm27 32 Reviews 46 reads
posted
12 / 18

I dont believe what lots of major media outlets write or post.   They twist things to fit their agenda or narrative.

 
I use my gray matter.  I take info from many places and sources.   Read articles from left leaning and right leaning sources and then come up with my own conclusions.   I dont take one source as "gospel".   So yeah.... I dont believe anything the NYT's writes.  They polarize many of their article's one way or another.   They slant polls.    

 
you might want to use what is between your ears a little more and open your eyes.   I am not saying become a conservative or a "righties".   But look at how major media is a fucking joke.   "JOURNALISTS" are just paid for "propagandists"..... yeah that is FOX, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, NYT, CNN, etc.   All bought and paid for by the RNC and DNC.

 
The "awards" any of these people win are also "bought" and paid for.  It is all a fucking joke.    But stay blind my brother.  Some day the truth might hit you square in the face.  

jazzman121847 111 Reviews 31 reads
posted
13 / 18

Oh, please. Stop trying to convince us you, and only you, are thoughtful, cerebral, even-handed, and impartial. You're not.  You don't trust legacy media - it shows . I don't know where you get your information or how you process it, but I find your posts rambling, self-serving, and biased. But hey that's just my opinion. You are free to post what you want, but you are not fooling anybody.  

crsm27 32 Reviews 17 reads
posted
14 / 18

You can say they are biased all you want.   But I get my info from lots of places.  I just dont take it from one source.   I try to look at things with an open mind.  But I see flaws in many of the current ways of democrats and liberals.  I also see flaws in things Trump is doing too.

 
I see the biased media at every turn that worked so hard against Trump it isn't even funny.   I see how Democratic party for the past years failing to get a good message other than TRUMP BAD and extreme viewpoints.   If you haven't noticed even Gavin and Mayor Pete are moving back towards the center.   Pete got rid of his "pronouns" in titles, Gavin in moving away from "men" in sports, etc.   It doesn't mean they will go right back that direction.  But they see what needs to be done.    I also mentioned how republicans are also going that way too.   Blaming everything on Democrats or Biden.   They will fall right into what the Dem's have the past 8 years or so.   They need to move towards center as well.  Otherwise, they will lose voters.  

 
But hey.... I guess I am biased and can't see the whole picture.   I guess I can't see that our country needs to stop pointing fingers at the other political party and work together.  Stop with the constant investigations and Congress needs to work for the people.  Not for their own pocketbooks.   Both parties need to move towards center.   All elected officials need to understand no matter if they have a D or R behind their name they represent EVERYONE in their district even if that person didn't vote for them.  They have to take everyone's needs and considerations into account when passing laws and budgets.    We as a country need to cut into the $37T debt somehow otherwise we will be belly up before we know it.... and so on.  

 
But yeah.... I am biased and blind I guess.

jazzman121847 111 Reviews 21 reads
posted
15 / 18

From my prospective, while you make some casual comments that suggest some moderate and middle of the road positions, I find your lengthy posts and strong arguments much more supportive of  right-wing/MAGA positions. Seems to me that someone truly in the middle would be more open-minded and receptive to some liberal arguments and preemptively supportive of some progressive positions too.

snafu929 20 Reviews 8 reads
posted
16 / 18

Brenden Clark, who lives with his husband in the NoMa neighborhood near North Capitol Street, says he voted for Kamala Harris in 2024 but he supports the takeover of the police and the National Guard presence. “My day-to-day experience living in D.C. proper over the past three years honestly has been the worst experience of my life,” Clark, who is White, said in an interview.

snafu929 20 Reviews 8 reads
posted
17 / 18

Brenden Clark, who lives with his husband in the NoMa neighborhood near North Capitol Street, says he voted for Kamala Harris in 2024 but he supports the takeover of the police and the National Guard presence. “My day-to-day experience living in D.C. proper over the past three years honestly has been the worst experience of my life,” Clark, who is White, said in an interview.

snafu929 20 Reviews 8 reads
posted
18 / 18

...you're just a intellectually challenged blow hard that copy/paste other people's thoughts and then you spout vile language in some sort of Tourette keyboard seizure.

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