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I’m well aware of what an attenuated virus vaccine is.
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But some of the lefties who’s gobbled Big Pharma cock for the last few years have trouble thinking through a not very complicated problem.  

 
1) No vaccine is harmless. If you take a vaccine for anything, you are being harmed. It may be a small harm. It might be a low risk harm. But you are still being harmed. If you weren’t, then the vaccine would not work.  

2) you should only take a vaccine if you’re at high risk of a disease breaking out that would cause more harm than the vaccine. Our immune systems are highly evolved and very very complex. You should be VERY cautious about screwing with it. If you’re young and healthy and you encounter a low risk virus like the common flu, then you should let your immune system work as it evolved to. If you start injecting yourself with a zillion vaccines then you’re immune system is going to think it’s at Defcon 1, and it’s no wonder that we have an epidemic of autoimmune disorders today.  

3) no one gets vaccinated against smallpox anymore. It would make no sense to vaccinate yourself against an extinct virus. Polio is eradicated in most of the world. I believe the wild virus has only popped up a few times in Bangladesh and India. Given sanitation practices there, it’s no surprise. Vaccinating people all over the world who face no risk of catching the virus only increases the risk of polio. If you put a weakened polio virus in people all over the world and someone with a weak immune system ends up getting polio, then you’ve just generated a living breathing polio factory that can spread the virus to unknown numbers of people. Polio has been eradicated in almost the entire world. Stop fucking vaccinating against it in almost the entire world.  

Producing vaccines for no reason other than to let Big Pharma make a buck is stupid and it risks global health. We should stop doing stupid things just so people who work in health care industries can get richer.

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Attorney for RFK Jr. petitioned FDA to repeal polio vaccine approval. Kennedy was nominated to be the Trump administration's head of the Department of Health and Human Services.  

http://www.kshb.com/politics/attorney-for-rfk-jr-petitioned-fda-to-repeal-polio-vaccine-approval

A statement from the Trump transition team said, "Mr. Kennedy would help to restore the integrity of our healthcare and make America healthy again."

-- Modified on 12/13/2024 4:24:13 PM

Trumptards want to go back to the 1950's when things were great:
Abortion was illegal
Marriage between Whites and Blacks was illegal
Polio was rampant
Etc, etc, etc.

When vaccines are the number 1 cause of polio then you’re trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.

From the Nature editorial: "Wild polio has almost been eradicated, but vaccine-derived strains retain the potential to paralyse. *****Better vaccines have arrived***** — but they are only part of the answer."

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: Wild polio has almost been eradicated, but vaccine-derived strains retain the potential to paralyse
When vaccines are the number 1 cause of polio then you’re trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.

Consider these facts IMP. Two of the three main strains of polio has been eradicated. Wild infection of polio is extremely rare. For 2-4 cases per million doses, polio can spread via a vaccine. The vast majority of new polio infections are from the vaccine.  

 
Which of the two following approaches make more sense. 1) Make even better vaccines that will cause polio in fewer than 2-4 cases per million or 2) just stop vaccinating against polio.

 
Think carefully, IMP.

Excerpt from CDC Report: Polio Vaccine: Vaccine-Derived Poliovirus
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A vaccine-derived poliovirus (VDPV) is a strain related to the weakened live poliovirus contained in oral polio vaccine (OPV). If allowed to circulate in under- or unimmunized populations for long enough, or replicate in an immunodeficient individual, the weakened virus can revert to a form that causes illness and paralysis.
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OPV is a safe and effective vaccine that contains a combination of one, two, or three strains of live, weakened poliovirus, and is given in the form of oral drops. OPV has been instrumental in eradicating wild polioviruses around the world, including in the United States, because it stops the spread of the virus by inducing immunity in the gut. VDPVs emerge when not enough people are vaccinated against polio, and the weakened strain of the poliovirus from OPV spreads among under-immunized populations.
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The United States has used inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) exclusively since 2000. IPV is given as an injection in the leg or arm, depending on the person’s age and protects against paralytic disease caused by any type of poliovirus, including VDPV.

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But some of the lefties who’s gobbled Big Pharma cock for the last few years have trouble thinking through a not very complicated problem.  

 
1) No vaccine is harmless. If you take a vaccine for anything, you are being harmed. It may be a small harm. It might be a low risk harm. But you are still being harmed. If you weren’t, then the vaccine would not work.  

2) you should only take a vaccine if you’re at high risk of a disease breaking out that would cause more harm than the vaccine. Our immune systems are highly evolved and very very complex. You should be VERY cautious about screwing with it. If you’re young and healthy and you encounter a low risk virus like the common flu, then you should let your immune system work as it evolved to. If you start injecting yourself with a zillion vaccines then you’re immune system is going to think it’s at Defcon 1, and it’s no wonder that we have an epidemic of autoimmune disorders today.  

3) no one gets vaccinated against smallpox anymore. It would make no sense to vaccinate yourself against an extinct virus. Polio is eradicated in most of the world. I believe the wild virus has only popped up a few times in Bangladesh and India. Given sanitation practices there, it’s no surprise. Vaccinating people all over the world who face no risk of catching the virus only increases the risk of polio. If you put a weakened polio virus in people all over the world and someone with a weak immune system ends up getting polio, then you’ve just generated a living breathing polio factory that can spread the virus to unknown numbers of people. Polio has been eradicated in almost the entire world. Stop fucking vaccinating against it in almost the entire world.  

Producing vaccines for no reason other than to let Big Pharma make a buck is stupid and it risks global health. We should stop doing stupid things just so people who work in health care industries can get richer.

"1) No vaccine is harmless. If you take a vaccine for anything, you are being harmed. It may be a small harm. It might be a low risk harm. But you are still being harmed. If you weren’t, then the vaccine would not work." - So you are saying that our immune system is HARMING us? You scratch your finger and you see some inflammation and a scab form? That's a harm to you? You get exposed to seasonal flu or pertussis and YOU DON'T GET SICK because your immune system was activated to thwart the infection but your immune system is HARMING you? You COULD think about it that way, but that's how a normal, healthy immune system works.
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"3) no one gets vaccinated against smallpox anymore." -  
http://www.nfid.org/the-triumph-of-science-the-incredible-story-of-smallpox-eradication/
The Triumph of Science: The Incredible Story of Smallpox Eradication.  [May 2023]
"Smallpox is the first and only infectious disease that has been eradicated in humans, which means it no longer exists naturally anywhere in the world. Smallpox is also the first disease for which a vaccine was developed and ****vaccination played a significant role in eradicating the disease.**** "

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: I’m well aware of what an attenuated virus vaccine is.
But some of the lefties who’s gobbled Big Pharma cock for the last few years have trouble thinking through a not very complicated problem.  

 1) No vaccine is harmless. If you take a vaccine for anything, you are being harmed. It may be a small harm. It might be a low risk harm. But you are still being harmed. If you weren’t, then the vaccine would not work.  
   
 2) you should only take a vaccine if you’re at high risk of a disease breaking out that would cause more harm than the vaccine. Our immune systems are highly evolved and very very complex. You should be VERY cautious about screwing with it. If you’re young and healthy and you encounter a low risk virus like the common flu, then you should let your immune system work as it evolved to. If you start injecting yourself with a zillion vaccines then you’re immune system is going to think it’s at Defcon 1, and it’s no wonder that we have an epidemic of autoimmune disorders today.  
   
 3) no one gets vaccinated against smallpox anymore. It would make no sense to vaccinate yourself against an extinct virus. Polio is eradicated in most of the world. I believe the wild virus has only popped up a few times in Bangladesh and India. Given sanitation practices there, it’s no surprise. Vaccinating people all over the world who face no risk of catching the virus only increases the risk of polio. If you put a weakened polio virus in people all over the world and someone with a weak immune system ends up getting polio, then you’ve just generated a living breathing polio factory that can spread the virus to unknown numbers of people. Polio has been eradicated in almost the entire world. Stop fucking vaccinating against it in almost the entire world.  
   
 Producing vaccines for no reason other than to let Big Pharma make a buck is stupid and it risks global health. We should stop doing stupid things just so people who work in health care industries can get richer.

“So you are saying that our immune system is HARMING us?”
 
Have you never heard of autoimmune disorders? Our immune system is extremely complex and honed to precision over millions of years of evolution. One of the most important things our immune system must do is recognize our own cells from foreign invaders. That is not an easy task. If you prime your immune system to go to Defcon 1 by over vaccinating you risk your immune system attacking your own body. This is what happens with conditions like Crohn’s disease, exema and psoriasis.  
 
Not all vaccines are the same IMP. Vaccines have done wonders for human health, but this does not mean all vaccines are harmless.  

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