Politics and Religion

A political consideration a bit closer to our interests
zinaval 7 Reviews 41920 reads
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How long do you think it will be before the government takes notice of the Client-Provider underground and starts to crack down on it?  Maybe metting out some vague "conspiracy to commit prostitution" charges, calling it a "national prostitution ring" or some such nonsense?  This underground provider-client network is a very exciting thing, not just sexually, but socially.  But I've got to think that the government will soon notice, and commit itself to making life miserable for us.  

Our society seems to be divided between people who enjoy their freedoms but don't give any time to defending them, and those who don't enjoy any of their freedoms, and so have a lot of time to commit to oppressing the rest of us.  The latter seem to be well-cut out for government. The former are ultimately turned into rabbits. Look at the War on Drugs, at people serving time for that.  A question: how many of those people if they ever voted, would vote republican?  How many of them are members of the Christian Right? Their being in prison, being disenfranchised, skews the voting to the conservative side.  But part of the reason they are in prison is they didn't do anything to defend their freedoms when they could.  They overindulged, clouded their own minds with drugs, and didn't see how the tide was against them.  

Government will seldom err on the side of freedom, despite our constitution, because that document is just a written promise.  The citizenship has to hold the government to its promises.  That hasn't been happening, it hasn't been happening for a long time.  

Make no mistake, we do live in a Christian nation.  If we don't start to change that, sooner or later sexually frustrated prosecutors with crusader fantasies will swarm after us.  If we don't start to fight the culture war, the war will fight us.  The front will be in our hotel rooms, in our bedrooms.  The casualties will be websites like this one, and perhaps the hobby as we know it now.

A good start would be to work to  turn Bush and Attorney General Asscrossed out of government.  Asscrossed, by the way, is exactly the kind of prosecutor I was talking about.

StartThinking! 35579 reads
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You can't take it granted, or you'll lose it.  

Vote, convince others to vote, spend time or money helping out, whatever you like, but take action.

HarryLime 10 Reviews 33548 reads
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The hobby appears to be a crime with no victims.  Where it isn't, there are lots of laws allowing society to go after people who use women for sexual slavery.

I'm looking to vote for a candidate that will stay away from intruding into my choices about how I want to live my life.  

-- Modified on 3/29/2004 5:59:18 AM

zinaval 7 Reviews 34133 reads
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Not only does it have no victims, it is beneficial, having many beneficiaries. I could make the argument that society itself would benefit from having more respect for it and its providers. There are no good arguments against this, and almost all of them stem from emotional side effects of sex.

Remember, people are never neutral in their responses to sex.  It releases some very powerful emotions, and if they can't take pleasure in it, the most dominant ones will be jealousy and nausea. This is especially true of sex that they definitely can't enjoy for whatever reason.  This is what's behind all the supposed "moral objections," which are not really moral at all. I hate to say that the Bible is just laden with subliminated jealousy and nausea masquerading as morality, especially in the prophets.

/Zin    

zinaval 7 Reviews 30268 reads
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Unfortunately, if the government directs its efforts at the hobby, it may be too late for us.  We may do individual work, but the results then will be similar to a hundred thousand fleas jumping in different directions. We need something more concerted and directed, a plan.  We can't just trust that things will go right. They won't. The Christians and their fellow travelers may not be particularly bright, but they are on the same page.  

The hobby presents some other problems.  Many of the people in it are covert, with double lives, and would much like it to remain that way.  They can't be blamed in this environment, since for them to "break cover" will just make them easy targets, and they will lose the valuable roles that they fill in their "secret identities." Many of us need these roles at least as much as we need the hobby, if not more. The hobby is an extremely, pleasurable place to visit, but to live in it and not be able to leave will spoil it, to say the very least. That is not freedom anymore.

I'm thinking about this about what we could do. I'm inviting suggestions in the meantime.

/Zin

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