Politics and Religion

I'm calling you to task on this one
BigPapasan 3 Reviews 951 reads
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1 / 16

...The View where he implied that all Muslims are terrorists, not that all terrorists are Muslims.  There is a difference.

benlanger 3250 reads
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2 / 16

Oh Good Lord.  I never thought the operatives in IRA and those in white gowns of KKK were all muslims!.  Was Timothy McVeigh a muslim?  Well based on FOX News, he sure was a muslim.  So were the kids who went on a shooting rampage in Columbine HS in Colarado.

Thank you FOX News.  I feel educated now.

SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 1349 reads
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3 / 16

You might wanna leave Columbine out of this, bc that was not a "terrorist attack" carried out to change social policy thru terror. It was kids bullied and ridiculed until they snapped.
The IRA, the KKK, and Timothy McVeigh cant hold a candle to the terror inflicted by muslims. (16,000 acts of terrorism since 2001 allover the world)  NO, not all Muslims are terrorists. But most terrorists are Muslim.  Does that clear it up?

THESPORTCAPITAL 143 Reviews 1071 reads
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4 / 16

This country is supposed to be free speech.but if your philosophies dont go along with liberal thinking you are an outcast on this board as well on liberal media. Look what they did to sarah palin and how they tried to destroy her career. Oreilly never said all muslims are terrorism, he said the terrorism attacks are by muslims not all muslims, but whoppi who cares lucky to be an actress and joy shouldnt be on tv behar are most bias people you can find on television. The view is a joke ,most bias show on TV.

dncphil 16 Reviews 1711 reads
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5 / 16

Let's see. The last time the KKK did anything more than parade around was about 70 years ago.  The IRA has not been active on the bomb front for a decade.

Even then the IRA was limited to England and Ireland.

Let's talk the last 20 years.  Bali, Madrid, NY, London, Time Square,  Christmas Panty Boy......

And Columbine wasn't a terrorist operation. It was two stupid kids, not attached to any other group, not trying to coerce changes in society through terror and violence.  Not every crime is terrorism, and Columbine was nothing but a crime.

There may be a few minor groups that I can't think of engaged in terrorism today, but apart from those minor groups, if they exist, all current terrorist groups of any serious concern are Moslem.

Thank you Fox News for being correct in that area.

Posted By: benlanger
Oh Good Lord.  I never thought the operatives in IRA and those in white gowns of KKK were all muslims!.  Was Timothy McVeigh a muslim?  Well based on FOX News, he sure was a muslim.  So were the kids who went on a shooting rampage in Columbine HS in Colarado.

Thank you FOX News.  I feel educated now.

benlanger 1647 reads
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6 / 16

Let us put this to rest.   All acts of violence is preceded by instigation.   If you folks sitting in glass houses remember, world wide terrorist attacks increased after you invaded and occupied Iraq.   If Sadam killed his own people, it was his and his country problem.   There are more ruthless and heinous dictators and mass murderers in Africa (Ethiopia, Somalia, Nigeria etc.,) but unfortunately for you folks, they don't have much oil to invade.

Recently, verified reports say US soldiers are kiling Afghan civilians for "fun and sport", dismember their bodies and take pictures standing with the corpses.

All the victims are muslims.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 1046 reads
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7 / 16

Posted By: benlanger
Recently, verified reports say US soldiers are kiling Afghan civilians for "fun and sport", dismember their bodies and take pictures standing with the corpses. All the victims are muslims.
Prove it.

Show me these "verified reports" of our soldiers killing non-combatants for "fun and sport."

Show me NOW.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

marikod 1 Reviews 1828 reads
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8 / 16

Obama administration when the DOJ engaged in much soul searching to determine whether a criminal investigation of Bush era was justified and against what officials the investigation should be targeted?

      Unwilling to go after the top guys, Mr. Holder ordered an investigation only against those who violated the guidelines given by the WH office of legal counsel and not those who broke the law. In other words, although torture is illegal, he is not investigating torturers or those like Bush who either authorized (or was clueless about-you can never tell with him) or conducted  the torture, but only those who exceeded the guidelines for torture, aka enhanced interrogation techniques.

GaGambler 877 reads
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9 / 16

Most political realists, myself included, never seriously considered that Obama, once he was the POTUS and not just a candidate running for office, would ever mount a serious investigation into something that might come back to bite him someday.

I am sorry that you deluded yourself into thinking that it would be anything but "business as usual", but guess what? It's business as usual.  

Put in the same position, I don't doubt that Obama might very well allow the same interrogation methods that did GWB. Reality sucks sometimes.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 655 reads
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10 / 16

The post certainly implies that such goings-on are something condoned as policy by the military or at least treated with neglect.

But to the contrary -- they should be given credit for the fact that when soldiers have been identified as doing such things, they have been charged as the criminals that they are.

So hunting civilians for fun and sport is not condoned by our military hierarchy. It is punished when discovered.

In ANY circumstance where you create a massive power differential, some will abuse that power.

I am pleased to see punishment in the offing for these murderers.

marikod 1 Reviews 1397 reads
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11 / 16

would go after Bush himself. We all recognize the consequences of criminal investigations of past presidents.

      But I was and remain very disappointed that they didn't at least investigate Cheney, Addington, Tennat, and Yoo and other top officials who I suspect had actual knowledge of what was going on.

GaGambler 1134 reads
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12 / 16

I expect naive idealogues like Moosie to be surprised, I gave you more credit.

I truly hope you don't take that kind of faith into the stock market, your BAC experience will seem like a walk in the park by comparison.

There is a time to talk about what "should" happen, but not when one's money is at stake.

marikod 1 Reviews 1498 reads
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13 / 16

if you lost control of your bladder bc of the water pressure, if you were deprived of sleep bc you were being waterboarded several times a day, if you were deprived of needed pain mediation for your other ailments, and if all this happened in a context where you did not know if they were going to kill you or not, you just might rate this a little higher than a "1."

      This is what they to Abu Zubadyah. After they started, they got Yoo to write the memo saying this was legal bc there was no massive organ failure.

dncphil 16 Reviews 1112 reads
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14 / 16

Yes, that is a huge difference in that there are always rouge individuals, like Columbine. No society is made up of saints.

However, some societies are condoning terrorism.  The gang that shot up the Olympics lived openly, unpunished by their host states. If I recall, the same was true of the people who did the Achile Lorro (SP???).

Similarly, the Israeli who shot up that mosque a number of years ago was arrested, tried, and imprisoned.

Of course, some people can't see the difference between treating terrorists as heroic figures and treating them as criminals.

A decent society treats them as criminals, even when they are members of that society.
Oh, yeah. One more. Lockerbie.

Posted By: johngaltnh
The post certainly implies that such goings-on are something condoned as policy by the military or at least treated with neglect.

But to the contrary -- they should be given credit for the fact that when soldiers have been identified as doing such things, they have been charged as the criminals that they are.

So hunting civilians for fun and sport is not condoned by our military hierarchy. It is punished when discovered.

In ANY circumstance where you create a massive power differential, some will abuse that power.

I am pleased to see punishment in the offing for these murderers.
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SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 892 reads
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15 / 16

I agree liorr.  Bill was 100% right about what he said. I wasn't surprised joyless behar and who gives a whoop goldberg walked off.

Posted By: liorr
This country is supposed to be free speech.but if your philosophies dont go along with liberal thinking you are an outcast on this board as well on liberal media. Look what they did to sarah palin and how they tried to destroy her career. Oreilly never said all muslims are terrorism, he said the terrorism attacks are by muslims not all muslims, but whoppi who cares lucky to be an actress and joy shouldnt be on tv behar are most bias people you can find on television. The view is a joke ,most bias show on TV.

dncphil 16 Reviews 1898 reads
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16 / 16


Like I said, a decent society prosecutes its rogue actors.

If you recall, those people were tried and prosecuted.

Hey, buddy, if this is a bad attrocity, I am proud to be an American.  Saddam used to cut people's ears off and rape kids in front of parents.

NO, DON'T GET ME WRONG. I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS OKAY. I am just saying that in the level of atrocities, this is about a 1 on the scale of gouging eyes, cutting ears, using chemical weapons on civilians, stoning women to death for fornication - want the legal details on how it is done, whipping people until blood pours down their back, amputation.

Yeah, U.S. war crimes are way down on the list. We ain't saints, but look at how Portugal handled Angola or Belguim handled the Congo.

Posted By: meinarsche
........during the Bush administration,it finally was revealed that the order for the torture being meted-out by US troops to "enemy combatants" came from Bush, aided and abetted by his trained monkeys throughout the DOJ.  A few months ago, Bush was asked about the torture in an interview and said that he "would order it again" in the same circumstances.

But,if torture is illegal why wasn't Bush  prosecuted for having ordered it?  As far as I am aware, of all the people who actually received anything in the way of actual prison time for this crime, none ranked higher than Sargent.

In a like vein, I don't imagine that these current, grisly souvenir-hunters are operating in a vacuum.  Somewhere, somehow there is a culture of permissiveness regarding this kind of abuse existing within the hierarchy of Army command that has either ordered this outright,or at least permits it to occur by looking the other way while it happens.

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