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What would be real torture for prisioners in Iraq would be to...
bribite 20 Reviews 13510 reads
posted
1 / 18

sentence them to an Arab prison.  

Quick trial, no appeals, next day Akmed uses his sword on your neck, or right hand.  But if you get to a cell, I'm sure its just TV sets with DVD's and a free membership to the in-house fitness club with three squares a day, just like California!  Then again, maybe not.

For those of you who think I never disagree with President Bush, ATTENTION PLEASE:

I think it was ludicrous for him to apologize to the Arab world yesterday, especially to the likes of Jordan (I wonder if 60 Minutes will do a segment on Jordanian prisons?).  A public/private apology to those prisoners who were mistreated in my opinion IS CALLED FOR.  But to apologized to a dictator like Jordan's King Abdullah wasn't called for.

Poopdeck Pappy 12818 reads
posted
2 / 18

because GW started a war under false pretenses and the Arab world is looking for ANY excuse to kill any and all Americans they come across.

The beating, burning deaths of the contractors pales in comparison to this because the world holds US to higher standards. We are the arrogant nation that goes and takes whatever we want in their eyes. GW Bush' war in Iraq was unpopular throughout the world and now they all will be thinking ALL Americans are that way. I for one will not be doing any international travel anytime soon.

It is also difficult to apologize to the prisoners that were beaten to DEATH!

ImOffonaRant 11329 reads
posted
3 / 18

Goddamnit for 40+ years I have watched the US take it in the shorts one way or another when all along we have had the power to literally flatten the rest of the world and make it a 51st State. I'm not saying we are perfect but in the jungle, under the laws of the jungle we would be the undisputed "king". The entire Mid East has been throwing rocks at each other for thousands of years. The same can be said of the Far East. For the last century we have been playing Mr. Nice-Guy with them  and now we have a bunch of camel jockies and pajama clad war mongers running around with Nuclear capability.

  I for one feel I have given up way to many of my civil liberties and freedoms thanks to the efforts of terrorists. For the shit we as Americans have had to endure because of these third world mud-hut bed-wetter countries I could care less if we nuked the whole lot right out of existance.
  Bush is a crook, Kerry is a crook
Anyone who the military/industrial/financial complex allows to the status of presidential candidate or president will also be a crook owned by said complex. This nation however and the fundamentals and principles given to us by our forefathers are worth protecting and saving. As I said earlier we're not perfect but were streets ahead of the rest of the world. We should excersize our superiority and make the world walk the line while we still have the ability to do so.

  IOoaR

   

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Viking Captain 12163 reads
posted
4 / 18

Listen you little man!  Your poor English, indicates you are a foreigner, or an illiterate man.  This is in line with your bizarre racist comments that if other people here were not my audience, I wouldn’t bother with you.

Get this straight to your head … we may be able to valiantly attack formidable armed forces of  major international powers like Afghanistan, Iraq, Granada, or Panama.  BUT, and get that right, BUT, if we do the slightest military assault against little countries like France,  China and Russia, before you utter those UGLY racist remarks out of your mouth, 100s of millions of Americans will be under mushroom clouds.  And mushroom cloud is not some fancy omelet from France … got it, you little bigot?

Viking Captain 12727 reads
posted
5 / 18

Listen you racist little person.  Go see my response to your cousin, maybe you learn something.

Bush in reality DID NOT apologize to Arabs.  This was done for the interest of the world.  You are too hick, or a bigot to look beyond your nose.

I occasionally read your garbage; I have not come across a bigot anti-Arab like you.  What have they done to you?  Have you read the history of the area?  

I have come across many Arabs and muslims that  are far more civilized, peaceful, and decent than a bellicose, ill willed,  and bigot like you.



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ImOffonaRant 10905 reads
posted
6 / 18

I'm not an anti Arab I'd vote to Nuke England, France, China anyone who stood in the way of America's manifest-destiny. Why are you so bent out of shape because I'm for our country being the rightful leader of the world? You some kind of subversive anti-American scum bent on the violent overthrow of our peacefull way of life? Stop hiding behind your veil of liberal leftist political correctness and start backing the greatest political experiment in the history of man.

  goddamn hippie peacenicks

stilltryin25 16 Reviews 12747 reads
posted
7 / 18

I am not responding to Bribite's original post.  But this talk of nuking people scares the s**** out of me.  I am no hippie peacenick, but I realize the if you nuke countries that have ICBMs as we do, you are going to get nuked back.  Captian Viking was right in his statement about us nuking countries with ICBMs.
    We have more nukes than any of the nuclear powers, but if we started nuking one with the intention of nuking them all, why shouldn't they all turn on us ay once?  Maybe we would be the only country left standing at the end of the catastrophe that would ensue, but the little life that would exist would not be worth living.
    Please, let's stay away from nonsensical wonderings and deal with what can realistically be accomplished.  There are people in the world that hate the US for no cause and who have harmed us, we should deal with them methodically and mercilessly, but we should avoid lashing out at those who disagree with us, even when the disagreement is sometimes ill timed and self serving.  In this increasingly complex world, one unfortunate reality is that we need France, Russia and China as much as they need us.  
    I honestly do not understand the inclusion of Britain in the list of countries that Rant would nuke, Britain has shown itself to be a consistently loyal friend, even when we have made silly choices.

Poopdeck Pappy 12435 reads
posted
8 / 18


I think your outlandish reply is just trying to raise the eybrows and stimulate conversation, but I may be wrong.

Civil Liberties?

The litigious terrorists right here on our soil are responsible for our civil liberties slowly erroding. The people that feel because they are in a room no one else has the right to utter words that are offensive to them. The terrorist that felt statues needed $8,000 drapes covering them because he was so sexually repressed and felt his speeches were so boring that people would pay more attention to a stone tit than to what he was saying. And on it goes.

The land of the free and the brave is deliberately being dismantled by these terrorists. It is being set back a decade at least, no, more like a century by these crusaders. They have done more harm to our great country than any outside source could dream of.




Pay particular attention to _Big Brother Gets a Brain_ in the following link.
http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/civil_liberties/

http://www.unitedstatesgovernment.net/coveringupjustice.htm

ImOffonaRant 10841 reads
posted
9 / 18

I'm not picking on any country or culture in particular. I was only trying to make the "Viking" understand that it's not out of racism that I rant but out of long frustration caused by other nations ungratefull and disrespectful attitudes toward America.
   It is true if we got into a pissing contest with any present nuclear power it would be a nightmare. (we should have put the World on notice 50+ years ago when we were the only kid on the block with a "Nuke") We F**ked up though and played Mr. nice guy and now we got a score of dirtweed countries yanking our chain seeing what they can get a way with.
   This whole discussion started about the alleged abuse of Iraqi prisoners of war and George W appologizing for it. I liked George's old policy of "If you so much as sell a terrorist a cup of coffee were gonna be on you like white on rice" not this touchie-feelie "oh were so so sorry" bullshit.
If I violate a traffic law the cops are quick to point out my misdeamenor. If I chose to ignore and not "pay" for my infraction the municipality, then the county and then the State will make sure to show me who is "boss". Why should we citizens have to toe the line but arrogant little puke countries don't.
   If the "Nuke" word scares you then we can get tough by just cutting them off of any kind of trade or aid all together. When starvation, pestulance, and disease has devestated their populace maybe they will be more willing to "play nice".

funtime69 6 Reviews 15295 reads
posted
10 / 18

If the "Nuke" word scares you then we can get tough by just cutting them off of any kind of trade or aid all together. When starvation, pestulance, and disease has devestated their populace maybe they will be more willing to "play nice


I like it. I also understood what you meant the first time you wrote it. Cut them all off.

There are plenty of people in this forum who are anti american and anti white. If you say anything they disagree with, you will be called a racist, bigot, ect...

ImOffonaRant 12680 reads
posted
11 / 18

So right you are Poopdeck. and as demonstrated by the "righteous-indignation" and labels of racist & bigot being thrown at me it is evident that the domestic "litigious terrorists" are working feverishly at taking away my First Amendment rights along with the Second, Third, Fourth etc etc.
   
   The "Right" won't tolerate any liberal  
   thought or speach

   The "Left" won't tolerate any conservative
   thought or speach

   Every election we the citizen must chose between  
   these two evils.

   No matter who is elected BIG money wins and we are all its  
   unwitting subjects/slaves.

bribite 20 Reviews 11034 reads
posted
12 / 18

IF you had ever been in a combat situation, YOU would clearly see that what was done to these prisoners was 'EMBARRASSMENT" nor "TORTURE"!

In a combat situation, the taking of prisoners has only one positive for either side, information!  Possibly information on the next bombing of LITTLE ARAB GIRLS ON A FUCKING SCHOOL BUS!  Or our guys traveling down a road!

IF you had ever been in a combat situation you would know that you don't get this information by giving the prisoners an ICE FUCKING CREAM CONE.  You get it by forcing them to talk, but usually by whatever means necessary, including EMBARRASSING THEM!

Your inane reaction of calling everyone who disagrees with you a "hick", "bigot", "racist", "bellicose" is testament to your total lack of any meaningful argument or rational ability to critically arrive at a coherent thought!  

What amazes me is that the outrage from you is greater over this than those 24 dead Iraqi school girls, or the 4 shot, beaten, burned and hanged Americans three weeks ago, or our losses to these murderous towelheads over the last month, and probably more than any outrage you felt over 9/11!

And imagine that you couldn't even identify yourself with your real "anonymous" moniker, you had to post under an alias!  

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HarryLime 10 Reviews 8639 reads
posted
13 / 18

No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paree
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

HarryLime 10 Reviews 12114 reads
posted
14 / 18

To what is going on.  I'm one of them.  I haven't forgotton the atrocities committed by the other side.  That doesn't, for a minute, make it OK for the US to respond in kind.  

Bribite, I don't think mistreatment works as an intelligence tool. The schlubs we are capturing look mostly like boys playing with guns.  The high level people aren't going to tell us beans.  

Do you know something we don't


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StartThinking! 10378 reads
posted
15 / 18
stilltryin25 16 Reviews 9780 reads
posted
16 / 18

So we cut off trade.  Some other wealthy country that does not agree with us will simply step into the void and make out.  But our abstinence will only engender more hate toward us.
    It is about time that you two realize that we are in a small world.  We are the big guy on the block but we can not do anything at all alone without being willing to make far greater sacrifices that we are currently willing to make.  Unless we make large sacrifices then we must accept the face that we will need allies, allies come with a price.  France (yes, France) will help us resolve problems but there will have to be something in it for them, just as getting the problem resolved gives us something.
    Lastly.  How does challenging illogical thought make a person anti-american and anti-white?

Viking Captain 10329 reads
posted
17 / 18

How do you know whether I have been in combat or not?  But you are our token little chickenhawk!  

We have signed up to Geneva Convention Accord, I know people like you don't quite unerstand what a signature on an international agreement means.  

BUT, an overwhelming number of Americans are civilized and decent people.  Of course, you have not demonstrated the qualities that we should count you among us.  I have hope for you!  When you grow up, I will adopt you, but you have  long way to go before I would go that far!!!



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funtime69 6 Reviews 11558 reads
posted
18 / 18

So we cut off trade.  Some other wealthy country that does not agree with us will simply step into the void and make out.  But our abstinence will only engender more hate toward us.
   It is about time that you two realize that we are in a small world.  We are the big guy on the block but we can not do anything at all alone without being willing to make far greater sacrifices that we are currently willing to make.  Unless we make large sacrifices then we must accept the face that we will need allies, allies come with a price.  France (yes, France) will help us resolve problems but there will have to be something in it for them, just as getting the problem resolved gives us something.
   Lastly.  How does challenging illogical thought make a person anti-american and anti-white?    

 


I was refering to cutting off foreign aid when I said; "cut them all off". Not only trade.
I feel there is a lack of apppreciation for the aid we are giving. Let them starve for a while.
I didn't have a problem with France. They realized all along that our government has been hijacked by special interest's that care only for Israel. Not the rest of the inhabitants of this planet, American or other. The French got a bad rap by the fools at Fox news. the sheeple in this country fell for it.

Well you should assume that my opinion of what illogical thought may be will obviously differ form yours. Only that I don't need to constantly insult others who's views are different then mine.

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