I think the ultimate oxymoron would be a poster that pretends to start civil discussion threads while he is also attacking anybody and anything with ridiculous comments that are anything but civil.  Yet he flies off the handle when he gets a dose of his own medicine, 3 times a day as prescribed by his doctor.

That would be a very silly hobbyist.  Assuming he actually "hobbys," of course.

What about Matt 7:5 don't you get???

When one has a beam in their own eye, they ain't much open to seeing the errors of their own ways!

While I certainly think it's pretty silly for hobbyists or providers to be uptight, don't forget that we are all engaging in a very judgemental activity. I'm not going to say it never happens, but I have my doubts that very many hobbyists pick providers based upon their winning personality. I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing, it's just the way it is. The same process works the other way around too for a lot of legitimate reasons.

But what gets in my crawl, is when social conservatives engage in this hobby. The belief that gays shouldn't have the right to get married, or that a woman (which includes providers) shouldn't have the right to control her own reproduction, but that you personally should have the right to pay $ to get your dick wet. The cognitive dissonance must be overwhelming.

I find myself in total agreement with Priap!!!!

Wait, I think I just felt the earth stop on its axis...  

Totally agree, judging others on moral issues while hobbying seems pretty stupid.

since we're dealing with humans here (well, most of them are human), and humans are known to be unpredictable on the whole, such a rational thought will be too rational.

I think part of this lack of "live and let live" is that most hobbyists and providers think of this as a separate part of their lives. It exists elsewhere and has nothing to do with their reality. They don't allow it to spill over into the rest of their lives, even to the point of denying either their guilt for participating or their joy in finding kindred spirits.

Which denial is, of course, silly. It comes out in funny little ways. The fact is that everything we do, everything we say and everything we think about affects the rest of our lives in some way. Many people still don't realize that and probably will continue to deny even that simple (though not easy) idea, as well.

Also, asking for rational thinking about hypocrisy by married p4p'ers? Sorry, darling; not going to happen.

No, I didn't read anyone else's posts, so if I'm repeating something, meh...