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Hpy: "Trump will not address any of the issues the moderators bring up"...
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That is EXACTLY what happened at the debase with Biden.  However, no one noticed that Trump did not address any of the issues the moderators brought up because all the attention was on Biden's poor performance.

Trump was asked about making child care more affordable.  Trump had no answer - he changed the subject.  He was asked again about affordable child care and he again avoided answering the question:

 

 
TAPPER:  Let’s turn to the cost of childcare, which many American families struggle to afford.
President Trump, both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child. For many families, the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent. In your second term, what would you do to make childcare more affordable?

 
TRUMP:  Just to go back. The general got fired because he was no good. And if he said that, that’s why he made it up. But we have 19 people that said I didn’t say it, and they’re very highly respected, much more so than him.

 
The other thing is, he doesn’t fire people. He never fired people. I’ve never seen him fire
anybody. I did fire a lot. I fired Comey because he was no good. I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp. They were no good. Not easy to fire people. You’d pay a price for it, but they were no good. I inherited these people. I didn’t put him there. I didn’t put Comey there. He was no good. I fired him.

 
This guy hasn’t fired anybody. He never fires. He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan – the Afghanistan horror show. The most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. He didn’t fire?

 
Did you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that’s on the border, that’s allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world? Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from mental institutions? Did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed? Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. This shouldn’t be a debate.

 
He is the worst president. He just said it about me because I said it. But look, he’s the worst president in the history of our country. He’s destroyed our country. Now, all of a sudden, he’s trying to get a little tough on the border. He come out – came out with a nothing deal, and it reduced it a little bit. A little bit, like this much. It’s insignificant.

 
He wants open borders. He wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters. And I don’t think – we just can’t let it happen. If he wins this election, our country doesn’t have a chance. Not even a chance of coming out of this rut. We probably won’t have a country left anymore. That’s how bad it is. He is the worst in history by far.

 
TAPPER:  President TRUMP, the question was about what would you do to make child care more affordable? If you want to take your minute.

 
TRUMP:  Just you understand, we have polling. We have other things that do – they rate him the worst because what he’s done is so bad. And they rate me – yes, I’ll show you. I will show you. And they rate me one of the best. OK.

 
And if I’m given another four years, I will be the best. I think I’ll be the best. Nobody’s ever created an economy like us. Nobody ever cut taxes like us. He’s the only one I know. He wants to raise your taxes by four times. He wants to raise everybody’s taxes by four times. He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire so everybody, including the two of you are going to pay four to five times. Nobody ever heard of this before.

 
All my life I’d grow up and I’d see politicians talking about cutting taxes. When we cut taxes, as I said, we did more business. Apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country. The worst president in history by far, and everybody knows it.

 
HEY RIGHTIES - WHAT WOULD TRUMP DO TO MAKE CHILD CARE MORE AFFORDABLE?

Contrary to some expectations Kamala will likely present well in the debates.  Nobody is as bad as Biden. Her problem is she's going to have to sell her new found centrism after her very public and long standing extreme leftism. Statements released by unnamed people in her campaign have walked back most of her previous positions -- they are just poll testing positions at this point.  So she has to convince people that she isn't just a lying dog faced pony soldier.  
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The rest of us know nothing she says will be the way she governs. She's an extreme leftist and has been her entire political career. She will revert to form the morning of Nov 6.

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That is until he found God in 2015. Hypocrite much, Lester?

If Trump’s smart he’ll tap into that. If he does, she’ll crumble. Will he be disciplined enough to focus on this? High likelihood of no.

Harris fared well in her debate against Pence in the 2020 election. A big bounce back from her terrible performance vis a vis Tulsi in the primaries. She shouldn’t be underestimated.

Tulsi Gabbert has been brought in to help Trump prepare to debate Kamala.

Good move on Trump’s part. Debating Kamala requires a lot more preparation than debating Biden.

Because Trump is a big child and can't change. I won't take Harris much to get under his skin. When that happens he'll go off the rails and debate prep won't matter.

I think it was Happy here who predicted Biden would call him names and Trump would lose it. Biden tried, and Trump just rolled his eyes.

It was obvious from the moment he walked in Biden didn't have it. Harris will be much more formidable.

Bottom line: Biden threw some jabs intended to incite Trump, just as Happy predicted he would. Trump just rolled his eyes. If you had been able to focus while watching the debate, you would have seen it.

You keep a log of what I say? Wow....Not denying I said it, sounds like something I'd say but link it up so I can remind myself.
You remember more of what I say then what I remember.  
Are you a woman, seriously... This is what my wife does.

Trump will rant with the "open borders, open borders" till the cows come home. Topic will be the Ukraine war, trump will go off on open borders...Trump will not address any of the issues the moderators bring up. He'll resort to going to to topics he rants about...open borders

That is EXACTLY what happened at the debase with Biden.  However, no one noticed that Trump did not address any of the issues the moderators brought up because all the attention was on Biden's poor performance.

Trump was asked about making child care more affordable.  Trump had no answer - he changed the subject.  He was asked again about affordable child care and he again avoided answering the question:

 

 
TAPPER:  Let’s turn to the cost of childcare, which many American families struggle to afford.
President Trump, both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child. For many families, the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent. In your second term, what would you do to make childcare more affordable?

 
TRUMP:  Just to go back. The general got fired because he was no good. And if he said that, that’s why he made it up. But we have 19 people that said I didn’t say it, and they’re very highly respected, much more so than him.

 
The other thing is, he doesn’t fire people. He never fired people. I’ve never seen him fire
anybody. I did fire a lot. I fired Comey because he was no good. I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp. They were no good. Not easy to fire people. You’d pay a price for it, but they were no good. I inherited these people. I didn’t put him there. I didn’t put Comey there. He was no good. I fired him.

 
This guy hasn’t fired anybody. He never fires. He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan – the Afghanistan horror show. The most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. He didn’t fire?

 
Did you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that’s on the border, that’s allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world? Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from mental institutions? Did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed? Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. This shouldn’t be a debate.

 
He is the worst president. He just said it about me because I said it. But look, he’s the worst president in the history of our country. He’s destroyed our country. Now, all of a sudden, he’s trying to get a little tough on the border. He come out – came out with a nothing deal, and it reduced it a little bit. A little bit, like this much. It’s insignificant.

 
He wants open borders. He wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters. And I don’t think – we just can’t let it happen. If he wins this election, our country doesn’t have a chance. Not even a chance of coming out of this rut. We probably won’t have a country left anymore. That’s how bad it is. He is the worst in history by far.

 
TAPPER:  President TRUMP, the question was about what would you do to make child care more affordable? If you want to take your minute.

 
TRUMP:  Just you understand, we have polling. We have other things that do – they rate him the worst because what he’s done is so bad. And they rate me – yes, I’ll show you. I will show you. And they rate me one of the best. OK.

 
And if I’m given another four years, I will be the best. I think I’ll be the best. Nobody’s ever created an economy like us. Nobody ever cut taxes like us. He’s the only one I know. He wants to raise your taxes by four times. He wants to raise everybody’s taxes by four times. He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire so everybody, including the two of you are going to pay four to five times. Nobody ever heard of this before.

 
All my life I’d grow up and I’d see politicians talking about cutting taxes. When we cut taxes, as I said, we did more business. Apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country. The worst president in history by far, and everybody knows it.

 
HEY RIGHTIES - WHAT WOULD TRUMP DO TO MAKE CHILD CARE MORE AFFORDABLE?

If you noticed, trump was stuck on question that were ask 3 or 4 questions ago. He always went back to prior questions, never addressing the question at hand. It was like he had to think of what to say. He was two or three steps behind and the moderators let him get away with it.
And he always went with the, "If I could address xxx"...something that was ask 2-3 questions before.
He isn't an intellect who can think on his feet.

durran42129 reads

Running a campaign on the promises of fixing all the problems  you and your party created in the first place. Nuts!!

As far as the debate is concerned,  I believe she will initially be intimidated by Trump. However,  if he starts running that mouth,  it won't be good at all for him. It could even nail the coffin shut as far as reelection goes. So for that reason,  I hope he does get some debate tips and training beforehand.

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If so, you might want to edit your post.

durran42129 reads

Well, I corrected my misspelled word since you got your granny panties in a wad over it, If that's what you mean.  
What I didn't do was "like" my own post. We leave that task to you.
Now as far as post pulling,  no one can really do that except you. Everyone here knows you have posts pulled..That's common knowledge.

Only one true statement in his post" "I corrected my misspelled word." All the rest? LIES.
"Everyone here knows" is the funniest of all.
But thanks for continuing to be my....

durran42126 reads

But then again 99% of what he posts is a lie so that's pretty easy. Funny that he thinks no one knows of his post pulling reputation. I mean it's not new news. Everyone knows it. 🤷

Also, deeply, DEEPLY stupid. He admits 1% of what I post is true. Although totally WRONG, it can also mean that when I call him a LIAR it's actually true.
The SPOAT is so dumb he just busted himself.
Just look at him...

durran42133 reads

Which is why he just posted basically the same thing he has already which means......you guessed it. More lies. Hey TATL, if you repeat a lie twice, does that count as 2 lies or still just one lie?  
His lies match his amount of TER posts. Which, in case you missed it, he's the #1 poster for all 3 categories.

The SPOAT repeats and repeats about my post count. AND she repeats and repeats her lies about my being the actual liar.
If The SPOAT didn't lie she would have nothing to post about.
The SPOAT would have to be completely silent. How nice that would be for this board.

durran42134 reads

Did you basically just repeat my earlier post about 99% of what you say is a lie?  

Poor ol fella don't even realize what he's saying. But on a good note, at least you are running the tally up on the most posts on TER awards! Also, you forgot to 👍 your post. Your slackin'

Harris will be able to TRY some triggering statements that Trump hasn't heard face-to-face before. But I think that the prep team is probably anticipating that.
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Normally, visual aids are not used in debates but I would like to see that rule relaxed for several reasons. Charts and Tables will be submitted to the debate hosts ahead of time for some fact checking.  
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(a) I think that many (most?) listeners / viewers do not get their info from print (hard copy or e-print) sources. They have been fed 10-second sound bites for most of their lives. Charts will be new -- and helpful -- to them.
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(b) It is easier and faster to make a FACTUAL point with a chart. E.g., "Oil Production 2017-2020; Oil Production 2021-2024" or "Fentanyl Seized 2017-2020 vs 2021-2024" or "GDP 2017-2020 vs 2021-2024" and so on. IMO, Trump will LOSE most of those duels but the people listening / watching will be much more well informed by a chart in 10 seconds than if Harris (or Trump) tries to "speak" the data. (Anyone ever been to a biz or economics presentation while the speaker drones on and on to explain even one slide? Shut up and let the slide do the talking.)  
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(c) Some slides will more easily trigger Trump than a Harris talking point that he can too easily rebut with, "You're a liar!!!" "You increased the national debt by $8.2 T during your administration." "You're a liar!" vs. a CHART for all to see. I can pick dozens of published charts and tables that show their sources ("Data from US Treasury"). But one Chart I would REALLY like to see is the one below.  
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That Chart will make Trump lose what little control he has left AND it will show MAGAs that Trump's claims of "Biden is the worst Pres ever" and "I am be best Pres, except MAYBE for Lincoln" is a Trump fantasy.  
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I don't like the Q - 2 min - 1 min - 1 min (or whatever it is) format at all.  They are NOT real debates. It is too easy for a moronic showman like Trump to "win".

And 51 former intelligence experts said the Hunter laptop was a cheap Russian fake.

It’s OK to skip over the word salad body of his post. His conclusion says it all:

I don't like the Q - 2 min - 1 min - 1 min (or whatever it is) format at all.  They are NOT real debates. It is too easy for a moronic showman like Trump to "win".
He’s setting low expectations. When Trump is perceived as the debate winner, Imp will reply that it wasn’t really a debate at all.

durran42136 reads

Very good observation CKS. You are exactly right.  
He has a cultist mind. That would certainly be the way he'd spin it. And in the looooooongest nonsense post we've ever seen.

He’s setting low expectations. When Trump is perceived as the debate winner, Imp will reply that it wasn’t really a debate at all.
I have been critical of the non-debate debates since long before TER even existed. ALL of my TER posts about these non-debate debates have been consistent with my recent posts on the topic.

Trump is Trump and everyone already knows how and what he will do in the debate.  He's been there already once this year, does a zillion speeches, has had several press conferences and interviews.  
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Kamala on the other hand, hasn't debated since Pence and before that with Tulsi.  No interviews or press conferences since the switcheroo.  She's the unknown and that's what people will be interested in.  
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Reciting facts and figures is more a demonstration of memory rather than the content which everyone will forget 10 seconds later.  It clearly didn't work for Biden, he came out reciting a lot of numbers. Everyone was focused on his frailty.
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They are both going to concentrate on general themes, their own positives and the other's negatives.  
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And yes, 51 debate experts are going to say Kamala won.  They've already signed the decree.

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