Politics and Religion

How would it be a political attack if REPUBLICANS are testifying???? eom
LostSon 43 Reviews 1148 reads
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Now she’s claiming it’s a political attack on her 😂

cks175 44 Reviews 38 reads
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She blamed racism and sexism from the pulpit of a church last week.

RespectfulRobert 73 reads
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CNN's legal expert, Elie Honig, was ripping her the other day and he usually refrains from being too harsh on anyone as he is more laid back and not a hot take guy. This woman is handing Trump a gift. The problem is this is a state case so he cant pardon himself, although I realize there is great debate on whether Trump can pardon himself against the federal charges. One wouldn't think so but with this SCOTUS? Who knows????

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 61 reads
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Her personal behavior is unprofessional and unacceptable. However, that has nothing to do with the ligitimacy of the RICO charges filed against trump and his allies. Two or more things can be true at the same time.

RespectfulRobert 62 reads
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LostSon 43 Reviews 61 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: She seems very unprofessional.
Her personal behavior is unprofessional and unacceptable. However, that has nothing to do with the ligitimacy of the RICO charges filed against Trump and his allies. Two or more things can be true at the same time.
The case against Trump In Georgia is a political attack. Fanni and her kickback-giving boyfriend have been in communication with the Biden White House counsel TWICE and Billed the Georgia Taxpayers for that as well.

This after Biden SWORE on a stack of Bibles that his administration was NOT coordinating with any of the prosecutors.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 58 reads
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Routine contact with WH counsel's office does not prove that anything untoward happened. It's been reported that the contact was procedural with respect to contacting former WH officials. Why must you immediately jump to conclusions and assume the worst? Oh wait. I know. Never mind.

LostSon 43 Reviews 95 reads
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Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: How would it be a political attack if REPUBLICANS are testifying???? eom
Are you kidding? it doesn't matter one wit whos testifying... WHO"S TRYING TO PUT TRUMP IN JAIL??? Hummm let me see.... OHH I KNOW DEMOCRATS ! ! !

RespectfulRobert 73 reads
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Did you ever listen to the phone call with Trump and the REPUBLICANS who ran the GA election? He tells them to go find 11,000 votes LONG AFTER the vote was certified. Yet again he wanted democracy overturned and decent Republicans, who put country first and dont have Trump worship fever, are diming him out and I love it!

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 74 reads
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I realize this is impossible for you to accept, however it seems to most objective observers that trump is trying hard to put himself in jail. He is credibly accused of 91 criminal counts in 4 separate indictments by both federal, state, and county career prosecutors. These prosecutors have all found compelling evidence and probable cause of criminal activity not political activity. Cry all you want about it being a 'witch hunt', but it is all about law enforcement and accountability.

LostSon 43 Reviews 69 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
it is all about law enforcement and accountability.
Oh you mean like when the FBI at the behest of the AG RAIDED WITH A SWAT TEAM this family’s home (yeah they were just a huge threat!) and hauled him off to jail…

This after the local prosecutor declined to press charges. Funny how when it actually went to trial the jury took a AN ENTIRE HOUR to find the guy not guilty.

http://news.yahoo.com/pro-life-activist-arrested-swat-171717669.html

Or  

How about not arresting the pro abortion activists who were protesting outside of the conservative Supreme Court justices homes? Which btw is a felony! 😳  

http://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/refusing-prosecute-those-protesting-supreme-court-justices-homes

-- Modified on 1/30/2024 10:15:57 PM

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 61 reads
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Deflection and whataboutism are your stock-in-trade. It's what you do. It's who you are. It's pathetic.

followme 93 reads
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Projection

 
2024 = GOP
Let's Go Brandon

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 49 reads
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That's all you got. Plus a little schoolyard name calling and misunderstanding about what projection really is. I could explain it to you but you would never understand.  

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 31 reads
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Anything to move the conversation away from trump's 91 criminal charges in 4 separate criminal indictments. Deflection and whataboutism is what you always do.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 32 reads
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Trump found liable by jury for sexual assault and defamation - judgment $5 million.  
Trump found liable by jury for defamation - judgment $83.3 million including $65 million in punitive damages.  
Trump found to have committed business fraud in a bench trial  - judgment is pending.
Trump has been criminally indicted by 4 grand juries. He has been charged with 91 criminal counts - those trials are pending.  

LostSon 43 Reviews 39 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: Here's some facts.
Trump found liable by jury for sexual assault and defamation - judgment $5 million.  
 Trump found liable by jury for defamation - judgment $83.3 million including $65 million in punitive damages.  
 Trump found to have committed business fraud in a bench trial  - judgment is pending.  
 Trump has been criminally indicted by 4 grand juries. He has been charged with 91 criminal counts - those trials are pending.  
Most legal experts have said that all four cases against Trump are very thin at best which leads to the conclusion that the only reason to go after him is political.

And of course your side will stamp there feet and say it’s just following the letter of the law! Damn it!

inicky46 61 Reviews 47 reads
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Cite several of your so-called "experts." You can't. But I'll bet you can find a few right-wing legal hacks. So go ahead.
Or maybe, as usual, you've got nothing.
I'm in Raiatea now and I'm waiting.

LostSon 43 Reviews 86 reads
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From the article.  

"In an interview with Fox News on Wednesday morning, attorney and legal analyst Phil Holloway laid out how Donald Trump's Georgia election interference case could be dismissed amid Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' allegations she had an affair with a special prosecutor in her office who she hired in the case.

"If it can be proven she violated the constitution in the way of substitute due process claims, that she was fundamentally unfair in how she carried out her prosecutorial duties, then that could result in a dismissal (of the case)," Holloway told Harris Faulkner on The Faulkner Focus."

Hiiii Larious

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 63 reads
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"it's been reported, are you referring to the reporting by CNN and MSDNC?

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 31 reads
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I thought this was a thread about the Georgia prosecutor and the charges filed against trump and his allies not about what you think is wrong in the United States today.  I don't have the time, patience, or interest to address your firehose of grievances.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 35 reads
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All that I'm "hell bent on" is seeing that justice prevails regardless of political party and political ideology. If you are as clairvoyant as you claim, shouldn't you know that? I guess you missed that along with the dumpster fire that exists in the foreground of the MAGA cult.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 51 reads
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Actually they are not "hearings" - they are trials, a formal examination of evidence before a judge and jury, for both criminal indictments and civil litigation.  Theses legal actions are the responsibility of the  judicial branch of our government.  The legislative and executive branches have the responsibility of the governing of the country. We are capable of both governing and law enforcement at the same time.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 31 reads
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Sounds like you have already decided that's she's corrupt and that she should be fired based on unproven allegations. Isn't she entitled to due process or is that just for the individuals that she indicated?

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 31 reads
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What are you talking about? I haven't convicted trump. However, a federal judge in New York has determined trump committed business fraud and is deliberating on the financial damages of trump's fraud. Two juries in New York have decided trump is liable for sexual assault and defamation. Trump has been indicted criminally by four grand juries, but those cases are pending. Trump is getting due process. Constitutionally he's innocent until proven guilty. Why are you so angry, so emotional, and so irrational? Just curious.

inicky46 61 Reviews 30 reads
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He hates it when someone points out when he's fibbing. Which is always.

LostSon 43 Reviews 51 reads
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Posted By: inicky46

I hate it when someone points out my bullshit, Which is always. Seriously it’s bad, I take it out on my poor nurse who I know desperately needs her job or she would tell me to “go FUCK my self” because really, I am a flaming prick! Everyone knows it and avoids me,
So much truth here icky! I’m glad you can finally admit it!

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 44 reads
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So let's be clear here.  You are okay with calling DA Willis corrupt and calling for her firing based on nothing more than unproven allegations.  However, your strong and visceral reaction to the recitation of trump's civil litigation losses and pending criminal charges is: I'm insane for bringing it up.  Do you think that your "but trump" argument makes his civil and criminal historical record disappear? Do you think that even if DA Willis acted unethically in her personal and professional behavior, that the grand jury indictment against trump and his allies in Georgia should somehow be dismissed?

LostSon 43 Reviews 38 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: Back to the corrupt democrat.  
So let's be clear here.  You are okay with calling DA Willis corrupt and calling for her firing based on nothing more than unproven allegations.  However, your strong and visceral reaction to the recitation of trump's civil litigation losses and pending criminal charges is: I'm insane for bringing it up.  Do you think that your "but trump" argument makes his civil and criminal historical record disappear? Do you think that even if DA Willis acted unethically in her personal and professional behavior, that the grand jury indictment against trump and his allies in Georgia should somehow be dismissed?
Oh She’s corrupt all right. The allegations are beyond well founded and shown to be true. It all just needs to go through the process and frankly I’m not sure I trust the process any more!

The motivation behind this prosecution is purely political. Why wait years to do this? Why communicate with the White House counsel? This after Joe Biden has said flatly he has no contact with any of the prosecutors?  

As for the civil case in New York! NO ONE HAS EVER been prosecuted for this ever and it’s being brought by a hyper partisan democrat years later only after Trump is again running to unseat an incompetent incumbent Joe Biden who has proven he is completely capable of weaponizing the DOJ.  

This is obvious as the color of the paint in the walls.

Your clinging to the   “but the Courts  have ruled”   is only trying to attach some legitimacy to what is obviously a politically motivated attack!!!

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 35 reads
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Do you ever listen to yourself?  In your mind she's corrupt because the allegations have been "shown to be true" when they remain unproven claims. But when it comes to trump, you believe that all allegations against him, even when a grand jury has found probable cause, are politically motivated and therefore cannot be true. Further, even when a judge or jury has ruled against him based on evidence presented in a court of law, you still think it's politically motivated and unjustified.  Your thinking, such as it is, is convoluted, flawed, and senseless.

LostSon 43 Reviews 29 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: Back to the corrupt democrat.  
Do you ever listen to yourself?  In your mind she's corrupt because the allegations have been "shown to be true" when they remain unproven claims. But when it comes to trump, you believe that all allegations against him, even when a grand jury has found probable cause, are politically motivated and therefore cannot be true. Further, even when a judge or jury has ruled against him based on evidence presented in a court of law, you still think it's politically motivated and unjustified.  Your thinking, such as it is, is convoluted, flawed, and senseless.
Here she admits she’s fucking her employee, something she campaigned on never doing.  

http://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2024/02/03/fani-willis-acknowledges-a-personal-relationship-with-prosecutor-she-hired-in-trumps-georgia-case/

Here we have bank records… 🤔

http://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/bank-records-show-fulton-county-da-fani-willis/story?id=106524407

Here She fired a whistleblower! 😳

http://thehill.com/video/leaked-audio-shows-fani-willis-was-warned-about-misuse-of-campaign-funds-whistleblower-fired-rising/9389287/

Here She wasted $10,000.00 of tax payer money to see how she looked in the press. 🙄

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-da-fani-willis-nathan-wade-date-coworkers-promise.amp

Let
Me
Guess?

Not
Good  
Enough
For  
Ya?

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

AmIright?

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 38 reads
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Willis has acknowledged a personal relationship with a prosecutor hired to manage the RICO case. That  conduct is likely unethical and, to me personally, unacceptable but not a reason to have the RICO charges dismissed. The existence of a personal relationship between members of a prosecution team, in an of itself, does not entitle any of the remaining 15 criminal defendants (4 of the 19 originally charged have already pleaded guilty) to any remedy.  Calm down.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 37 reads
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We all know, or should know, that trump, and the other 14 remaining defendants, have been indicted by a Georgia grand jury and are awaiting trial. Our judicial system gives those defendants the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law. So what's your point? I hope you have something other to offer than your usual "but trump" defense.

LostSon 43 Reviews 38 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: Unproven huh?
Willis has acknowledged a personal relationship with a prosecutor hired to manage the RICO case. That  conduct is likely unethical and, to me personally, unacceptable but not a reason to have the RICO charges dismissed. The existence of a personal relationship between members of a prosecution team, in an of itself, does not entitle any of the remaining 15 criminal defendants (4 of the 19 originally charged have already pleaded guilty) to any remedy.  Calm down.
She is a prosecutor and there for knows the law and should not break it correct? J walking to murder, she should not engage in any illegal activity amIright?

Guess what georgia still has adultry on the books as a crime…

While she isn’t married her boy tow was when their relationship started.

From the article

 
“On paper, yes, it is against the law to cheat on your spouse in the state of Georgia, with Title 16, chapter 9, section 9 of Georgia’s Code of Criminal Conduct spelling it out pretty clearly. In that section of the law, it states, “ A married person commits the offense of adultery when he voluntarily has sexual intercourse with a person other than his spouse and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.”

So her disregard for the law (wether you agree or not) shows she is corrupt.

Your either a follower of the law or you aren’t.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 45 reads
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Trump and his allies have been criminally indicted by a grand jury for actions related to attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. Willis has been accused of what may be ethics violations and unprofessional behavior. The two are not equal. The two are not related. Your attempt to equate and connect these two disparate matters shows how desperate you are to exonerate trump at all costs. I think that is pathetic as well.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 28 reads
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Indeed we do reside in different silos and perhaps on different worlds. Condemning the left for exactly what is being done by the right is play number 1 in the MAGA playbook. Projection, deflection, hypocrisy - rinse and repeat. I agree that stupid is unfixable - at least you know that much - however when it comes to self-awareness not so much. It will be a pleasure ceasing communications with you.  It hasn't been a fair fight anyway and now it's getting boring. Now be a man of your word unless you have so little self-control that you have to take another parting shot.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 31 reads
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The 'last word' was your pronunciation but you couldn't stay away very long, could you?  Is your word so meaningless or are you so easily triggered with no impulse control, or both? Sounds like a certain criminal defendant who owes the woman he sexually assaulted and repeatedly defamed $88 million. Oh no, there's another unflattering reference to your Dear Leader. How dare I go there. Let's face it slick you are on the wrong side of history when it comes to your adoration of that 88 million dollar poorer, four time indicted, criminal defendant and you are factually and intellectually disadvantaged when it comes to this debate. Please stop embarrassing yourself. But I suspect you won't.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 48 reads
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Well that has to be one of your more ridiculous arguments - and your litany is long and derisive to begin with. So anyone who speeds, or doesn't use a turn signal, or crosses the street against the signal light, or spits on the sidewalk, or a million other minor infractions is corrupt by your definition. And if we have all done something trivial like that then we are all corrupt and none of us should hold public office or a position of public trust. Your argument, like your politics, is extreme right-wing absurdity.

inicky46 61 Reviews 47 reads
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Though it's also true his word is "meaningless." But still it's fun triggering him (like this) and watching him dance. Like how I've gotten him to lose his mind by pointing out I'm in Tahiti.
By the way, I still am. Currently docked in Taha'a after a morning of snorkeling.
Now watch Piñata-Boy dance.
PS: he only started his "last word" routine after I serially ridiculed hm for it. He repeats everything I say. What a predictable 'tard.

LostSon 43 Reviews 33 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: Soooo your heroine is supposed to uphold the law yes?  
Well that has to be one of your more ridiculous arguments - and your litany is long and derisive to begin with. So anyone who speeds, or doesn't use a turn signal, or crosses the street against the signal light, or spits on the sidewalk, or a million other minor infractions is corrupt by your definition. And if we have all done something trivial like that then we are all corrupt and none of us should hold public office or a position of public trust. Your argument, like your politics, is extreme right-wing absurdity.
Everything you just listed is an infraction under the law. And while you may think it’s silly it’s a law on the books in Georgia as a misdemeanor. What that means is a prosecutor DOES NOT GET TO PICK AND CHOSE WHICH LAWS THEY OBEY IF THEY ARE UPHOLDING THE LAW!!! IT’S THAT FUCKING SIMPLE!! She is as corrupt as the day is long. Your just simping for her because she’s going after Trump.

The long and the short of this is your willing to overlook corruption as long as the corrupt are going after Trump GOT IT!

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 66 reads
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…the attempt to disqualify her.  Where’s CDL with his usual (and ONLY) Shakespeare quote:
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

-- Modified on 2/5/2024 6:40:13 AM

LostSon 43 Reviews 79 reads
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Posted By: BigPapasan
Re: Fani Willis filed a 176 page response to…
…the attempt to disqualify her.  Where’s CDL with his usual (and ONLY) Shakespeare quote:  
 “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

-- Modified on 2/5/2024 6:40:13 AM
She can protest all she wants but she has fucked up big time as a prosecutor and as a rising star in the DNC. So tell us all there lawyer boy… what should happen to her?

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 43 reads
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No need to shout.  It doesn't make your argument any more convincing.  There is such a thing as prosecutorial discretion, but let's put that aside for the moment. Since you mentioned trump, using your same logic, doesn't his corruption disqualify him in becoming president? Doesn't the president take an oath to ensure that laws are faithfully executed? Doesn't the Attorney General report to the president making the president the highest level law enforcer. Trump has been found liable by a federal judge and two federal juries of sexual assault, defamation, and business fraud so isn't that inconsistent with becoming the highest level enforcer of the law? How do you overlook all of that?

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 31 reads
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While Nicky and I may be like-minded (and we both beat your ass like a drum) we are not the same person. Now let's get back on track and give Lost (in Space) an opportunity to answer my questions about his deductive reasoning and jurisprudence.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 66 reads
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Page count is the old way to judge judicial merit.  Now they do it by tonnage.

inicky46 61 Reviews 68 reads
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He apparently has no clue about many things, including the fact that it's against the rules of this board to post under two different handles/aliases on the same thread. Actually, it's grounds for banning. And TER would sniff it out in an instant if it were true.
Now watch Piñata Boy scurry to the Mods to get us banned.
And fail.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 75 reads
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You sure love your conspiracy theories, don't you? Observing your certainty, obtained without a scintilla of evidence from, at best, the nether regions of your grey matter, tells me all I need to know about your "intellectual" process. Or perhaps this is just the best distraction that you thought would permit you to go on the attack without getting your ideas rebuked and ridiculed. Guess what? Didn't work. Still waiting for Lost (at sea) to answer my questions.

inicky46 61 Reviews 64 reads
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Did Willis fuck up? YEP. Big time. Her appointment of a guy with whom she was having a relationship was a gross error of judgment.
Does it have ANYTHING to do with the merits of the case? NOPE.
She should withdraw and let the case itself go forward and be decided on the basis of the law and the evidence.  
Are our resident righty clowns capable of discerning the differences here? That would be a resounding NO.
They are truly a bunch of Bozos.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 61 reads
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So maybe durran and lost are the same guy. Mind you I have no evidence to support this but it has to be true, right?  Too many moronic coincidences. Durran once wrote in reply to me "what are we in the 9th grade?" Who would have known that 'we' perhaps referred to both his profiles and that '9th grade' was aspirational because it appears he/they never got out of kindergarten? I'm still waiting for a reply directly from Lost (in translation) - durran please stay away from posting and go play with the other children. Jazz (not to be confused with Nicky).

inicky46 61 Reviews 44 reads
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You'd think some of his righty pals would clue him in but it seems they enjoy laughing at him, too.
And here he comes.....

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 39 reads
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I know. This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. I recently began reading some of the reopened P&R  posts to understand present day MAGA madness and to occasionally argue against its insanity. Enter durran. I was pummeling his ass so badly he creates a diversionary conspiracy theory to distract from all his losing.  So trumpian. He can't win arguments with you, and now he is losing arguments with me, so if he says we are the same person so he's only losing to you. Sad but in his MAGA drunk mind he's winning again, or at least not losing as much.  Debating with MAGA minions is like playing chess with a pigeon - eventually the pigeon shits on the board and struts around like he won.

LostSon 43 Reviews 39 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
debating with MAGA minions is like playing chess with a pigeon - eventually the pigeon shits on the board and struts around like he won.
What’s completely amusing is, that is the response of a delusional narcissist… 🤔  

The delusion is that they think they are completely right all the time and any opposition to that angers them, DEEPLY!  

“I’M RIGHT DAMN IT!!!” They say to themselves “THESE IDIOTS JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND!!”

Then they descend into “Trump is evil I just know it” as they support actual death and suffering being perpetrated onto millions of people by this administration’s policies.  

Why is that?

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 40 reads
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Throwing shade, talking shit, acting delusional is all you got. No substance, no class, no intelligent thought.  You got nothing pigeon boy. Nothing.  We might as well close this thread because you've driven off the road and into the abyss.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 36 reads
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It does pain me to lower myself to your sophomoric level, but I'm just trying to respond in language you might understand.  Keep shiting on the board and strutting like you won. You got nothing else.

jazzman121847 107 Reviews 47 reads
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Obviously, you don't know when to quit. I can keep this going all day, but you are boring me. Stop repeating yourself. Stop acting like won something. Stop acting so foolishly. What happened to your pledge to stop? Okay one last time - declare victory and disengage.

LostSon 43 Reviews 32 reads
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Posted By: jazzman121847
Re: Recess is over.
Obviously, you don't know when to quit. I can keep this going all day, but you are boring me. Stop repeating yourself. Stop acting like won something. Stop acting so foolishly. What happened to your pledge to stop? Okay one last time - declare victory and disengage.
Seriously you are and he has admitted to having multiple accounts…

inicky46 61 Reviews 37 reads
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I don't have multiple accounts and never said I did. What I DID have were multiple aliases YEARS ago when that was permitted. That said, I don't give a damn what you believe though it would be nice if TER would simply confirm the truth: that jazz and I are different accounts. But they don't typically involve themselves in things this petty and stupid. That's you and your little buddy's job.

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