Politics aside, you gotta admire the beauty of a good monkey wrenching such as this.

In TER ploitical board style, here's the link to someone else's writing.  Not necessarily the opinion of this hobbyist.  Maybe Pam Anderson should suit up and take on the blubber trade.  I've not tried whale meat deep fried, but I hear it lacks Hepatitis C.  Which is more than you can say about some Hollywood activists.

then send the bill to Greenpeace via a German court.     Should be pretty easy to get a judgment recognized just about anywhere in the world - it's simple vandalism, just like dumping trash anywhere - then they do a Morris Dees, and attach whatever assets Greenpeace has or gets - put a keeper on their PO box - so the local sheriff has a hold on their mail, to compel them to sign over checks until the mess gets cleaned up.

Boring, I know.

Good for Greenpeace.  

Scientific research?  Funny how the whales end up on restaurant menus.

A sperm whale will require a rather large mop boy.  Cleanup in booth 5.

they've been hunting whales since the dawn of time, and have an equitable interest in continuing their native practices.   If they're so damn stupid as to hunt them to extinction, well, that's where the UN should step in.

So if Greenpeace wants to do a little civil disobedience grandstanding, they need to be willing to pay the price.   Dumping garbage on somebody's doorstep because you object to their menu is a little tacky, don't you think?

How would you like it if the Hindoos dumped a few head of beef on the door of the US embassy, or a truckload of fishnchips on the door of the UK embassy?  Can you make your point in a more civilized way, like WORDS?

Oh, I know, when you lose a vote, you just keep messing things up - is there a point in dealing with people who can't abide by the usual rules of civilization?

Yes, I realize the Japs are not the Inuit, because they crawled out of their ice caves a few hundred years ago, and learned to use steam, etc.   Because they are an Advanced Civilization, we need to put a stick in their spokes, because they might overrun the world.  Inuit and other losers need to be stuck in museums for use as weapons between Advanced Civilizations.

What we're really talking about is politics:  not whether a whale contributes to an environment (I'll bet there aren't a dozen people here who have ever laid eyes on a minke whale) but rather, who gets to push who around, and whether these issues go through the usual diplomatic channels, or if free-lance NGOs (who have no responsibility to a population or territorial management, only people with an ideology - are gonna get involved, too.

BTW, where did they get the whale they dumped?  And what do these guys eat?  Oatmeal?

whales that the Nips are overhunting.  (As are the Norwegians - all those fish-eaters are the same, and you can toss the Limeys in there too.)

But it's really easy:  the Japs can hire a few Messicans and a couple chippers, and shred it into cat food.   All those cat-ladies in Berlin would love them.    They could give out a week's free catfood for every signature on a thankyou card addressed to Greenpeace.

You gotta admit, I've had a whole lot better ideas since I died, than I ever had alive.   This purgatory place, with all the virgins, is agreeing with me.  Or maybe it's Limbo:  I din't check the sign too close when I came, and I sure don't give a shit now.

...whales eat 8,000 pounds of plankton and fish in a DAY.  That millions of animal lives saved by taking the one life of the whale.  Does anyone give a shit about those animal lives.  Oh, hell no.  We have to save Moby Dick so he can bite off another leg or two...

That puts a whole new light on it.  Who cares about hogs?

I think another thing that people forget, is that whales piss & shit in the ocean, and thus turn our playgrounds into a toilet.  

Carrie may never have been to a real beach, but I know that Pam has.  I'll bet she'd sing another tune if she knew that whale had peed in her bay water.

can you believe those suckers sent troops to Afghanistan?

And faced down the British Navy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_War

Oo-rah!!   Something tells me those whales are already fucked if the Icelandniks are after them.

...Hogs are smarter than whales.  Dumb fuckin' whales.

...they are Vikings - they raped our great-great-great grandmas.

Dolphins, killer whales, those fellers are pretty damn smart.   Though not smart enough to keep from being drafted by the Navy,  http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sandiego/technology/mammals/mine_hunting.html

(I think that would give them at least an IQ of 70)

Bill Rehnquist, you clearly have no grasp of the issues to compare "Hindoos" to Japanese re whales and cows.

It always saddens me when anybody with such a limited understanding of the world is so outspoken about it.

than mine, perhaps you will enlighten us by explaining the "issues".   We surely would not want you to be sad, so why don't you explain to us, what we should be thinking?

You never heard of SPAM, the alleged meat product in a can?

There's only room for one last word freak here!!!

she knows everything.

However, since I am just a "loud mouthed, obnoxious yammerhead who spouts his opinions with no substance and has nothing of value to contribute", I am not going to comment on it, other than to let Carrie know I agree with her.

...prayed me to death.

You can only cure yourself by JUST DO (ING) IT.

So maybe you can tell us what the issues are?   Looks to me like the most immediate issue is Greenpeace dumping trash on their neighbors' property.   Not very neighborly, given that there is a UN, and foreign ministries in most every country.

Maybe the issue is the immaturity and impatience of people who can't play by the rules.

How is Greenpeace different from Al Qaeda?  They don't kill people.  But just like Al Qaeda, they think their ideas exempt them from the usual rules, they still think they're too good to stay within the established processes, even though they don't have responsibility for any person or property.

So a little civil disobedience never hurt anybody.  But the key to civil disobedience is being willing to pay the price.  I think the Nips could do GP a favor by reminding them of that.

One does not need to agree with the Japanese position in order to respect their rights as a nation, as established by international treaty.   If you don't like the result, take it up with your representatives.  Unless you want your neighbors to return the favor, and dump their garbage on your doorstep.

It's very easy to be results-oriented.  Those of us who value civilization per se tend to be more process oriented.

swap lies and diddle a few virgins.

How does that make me any different from anybody else here?

...you're an arrogant American.  The rest of us are better than you.  Silly you.

now I'm just arrogant - and dead.

And now I have no trouble getting laid.  I'm just here to laugh at the rest of you, BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How come no one dumps something on Greenpeace or PETA.  Something alive, but dies quick enough to make the irony tasty.  Just a thought.

than to dump something they could eat, or at least sell for cat food.

The Japs get their revenge:  Toyota, Honda, Nissan, sushi, to say nothing of those hot lil straphanger babes.   Dumping whales is too amateur for the Japs, and dealing w/ PETA is a FREAKING WASTE OF TIME, when they're probly closing sales on a dozen cars to PETA members as we speak.

How long do you think it will take for us to run this thread off the margin of the board?

I'm not much of a Asian culturist, but I do enjoy a skinny oriental twig or ladyboy every once in a while.  Lil straphanger babe has me perplexed.  And I know when I'm perplexed, constipation can't be far behind.  Do my 'roids a favor and enlighten me, MasterQuist.

is goosing female commuters in the packed trains.   It's become a market niche, with some Tokyo MPs offering role-playing for fetishists.

You know how open-minded lawyers are to new ideas.  Wish I'da tried that when I was alive.  Might have been fun.

1)  Squid or jellyfish would probably fit your needs.  Or almost anything if dropped from sufficient height.

2)  Probably because they all have better things to do.  Trolling boards pointlessly would be one.

better than deep fried snail darter but not anywhere near as good as roasted spotted owl.

I second your point re the creative monkeywrenching.  I suspect that you are an anrchist at heart?

tried to paw at Sandra Day O'Connor in the law stacks or the gowning area?  Hard to believe.

given the abysmally low standing that our fair country is held in by the politically active and aware minority around the world, I'd say if a few head of cattle were dumped at the doorstep of a US embassy, we'd have gotten off easy.  [No, not that type of getting off].

have any case law and/or legal theory, as in the US, where minor criminal actions are protected as a form of symbolic speech [I'm sure you'll recall fondly the flag burning case in Texas]?

Looking for an advisory opinion from the other side.

You should try taking a little time to do something else every once in a while, instead of doing number 2.  I mean "trolling boards pointlessly", but you can call it something else too.

Germany is a civil code jurisdiction, and AFAIK, their present structure is fairly derivative from what the Allies put in place after WW2.

My partial understanding is that there's no comprehensive concept analagous to the US 1st amendment - in fact, I'm not sure any country has anything so comprehensive, where courts alone are authorized to protect basic individual rights.  (Any woman can tell you that speech is hurtful unless it validates her fashion choices, and G-d knows there is nothing more important than that.  Most ayatollahs and tinhorn dictators are absolutely agreed.)

On top of that, it seems the Germans specifically ban some expressions, eg that would validate the Nazis.

So I'd have to bet the answer to your question is probably not.

want to know what they think, you watch what they do.  Eg, some women will tell you they HATE you, pull out a knife and shove it between your ribs.  Others will tell you they HATE you, and fuck your eyes right out.  Very different results, see?

So I'm thinking here that all the "hatred" vibes we're getting about Americans are a bit overstated, and to some extent due to different types of envy.   Eg, I haven't noticed large drops in people coming to America, whether from Mexico, UK, Canada, wherever; and for every raghead who wants to bomb America, there's another that wants to learn our perverted ways, and still another who thinks that bombing is not the way to go.

Even among the Frogs, I notice that criticism is largely limited to chatter.  So what we are talking about here is a MOOD.

What I think is far more significant, is what is going on AMONG Americans, ie., they can't make up their freaking minds what they want to do.  Most of them want to be left alone, and are so determined to get that, they ignore the various idiotic busybodies among them who can't control their own bowels, so they stick their nose into their neighbors'.   This would include about 10% of those on the left, and 10% of those on the right.  The significant difference among the Left and Right is that almost all of the Right is agreed that Jesus and money are the way to go; while the Left is fragmented among every freak cause you can imagine, and are far too busy fighting among themselves to actually fight the rightists.   Yes, I think the fags get a lot of the credit here.   Never saw any out of the closet  who would trust their own mother for 10 minutes.

who really thought bald was beautiful, and would laugh at all of my lawyer jokes?