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I dont think ive chatted with maybe 2 or 3 people on this forum that could actually explain what a tariff is used for and how it has effect on them.  

Most on here will look towards others opinions or polls. Sheep like that dont tend to be able to answer questions like what positive effects have the tariffs had on the economy. I dont think most of these cats have seen an econ class (if at all) since the mid 80s.

This recent poll claims that most want Trump to have limits on tariff authority:
https://wislawjournal.com/2026/02/05/poll-majority-want-limits-on-presidential-tariff-powers/

A year into his presidency, I'd like to hear from those who supported the president, or at least his tariff policies.. What positive effects did you feel his tariffs were going to have on the economy? And a year later do you feel that your expectations have been met? Do you you regret or stand by your support?

Trump tariffs have always been used for leversge in negotiarion. So far so good. I think Trump has even surprised himself how far that reavh

Exactly.    He uses them as leverage to gain or get what he wants in trade negotiations and policy.  

 
So far he is batting about .750 in this situation.    Look what is happening with India right now.    Look how Russia publicly says they wont help Iran.     Look how China is now wanting to talk about trade.....etc.      

Look how much more it's costing the American consumer. Look how badly American businesses are doing especially small businesses. Look how our former allies are striking deals with China and others. Look how much chaos and confusion there is worldwide. Yeah it's really going great. Dumbass.

Really???   Please tell me the COSTS that is happening?   I am a small business owner.   I dont see it.   Talked with other small business owners.... they dont see it.    So please tell me how it is "badly" hurting small business?    

 
You are talking about "allies" striking deals with China/others....   Please list them?  Then list the deals that they stopped with the US?

 
Here are deals he has gotten done or in negotiation:

Australia
India
EU (which with the ICE talks and Olympics is throwing monkey wrench in it and Greenland talk)
Mexico/Canada (in talks as the "new nafta" is coming up for review)
South Korea
China
Japan
Malaysia
Thailand
Cambodia
Vietnam
El Salvador
Guatemala
Ecuador
Argentina

 
But yeah.... FACT YOU WILL IGNORE.    

I talked about how the auto industry has FUCKED UP with the huge shift they did for EV's.   (see attached for 1 example).

 
Also the US has fucked that up for years with prices.   I believe it waw Nissan had a pick up that was about $15K or less at one time.  But the US wouldn't let them bring it to the country.  For some reason.    I saw a video on it by The Fat Electrician.   PLUS if you know that some "super cars" in China cost less than $125K and out perform any US supercar.    But US won't let them come to the main land.

 
ALSO.... to buy a car in Canada and then bring it to the USA it takes lots of paperwork, taxes, fees, and the car has to be on a "list" type thing.    Yeah so all the cars might not be able to bring in to the USA.

 
But yeah.... try to blame Trump for this.  It has been regulations on the books, lobbyists for years, etc.

YEP.... did you not see where I said things are not going like he thought with some of his actions with the EU countries.    

LOL.... love how you try to bring up single instances and I can keep batting them down.

 
I guess you missed the WHOLE thread talked about how the US bourbon bubble was fast approaching prior to Trump.    That even industry leaders talked about how there was too many products on the market, too much competition, etc.   The bubble was about to burst.    Same goes for small breweries.     But yeah.... FACTS people want to ignore.

HopefulCat590 reads

https://www.whatjobs.com/news/florida-tourism-collapse-how-trade-war-with-canada-erased-280000-jobs-and-52-billion/

So it wasn't that many of the "vacation" areas were wiped out by hurricanes?   They are rebuilding and need to rebuild before tourism jobs come back.

BTW.... Florida lost Canadian visitors but overseas visitors climbed.  So that made up the difference.

 
You must be Canadian.    Welcome.

Yet FL found the difference and that is what you were talking about was FL.     Other countries picked up where canada left off.

You keep ignoring the fact that your original post was about FL....  and FL showed other countries picked up the slack when Canadians didn't show up.

 
THEN you move the goal posts.    Typical liberal.    

Your routine is very stale. You always post the same shit. We are "ignoring the facts", we "move the goalposts", and we are a "typical liberal". Get some new material. You are boring us.

Well if you quit moving the goal posts and ignoring the facts it wouldnt need to be said.

HopefulCat598 reads

One Mile At a Time reports that research firm Tourism Economics has changed its forecast from an expected 8.8% increase for 2025 to a projected 5.1% decline — a 13.9% shift in demand.

HopefulCat593 reads

https://medium.com/@edmondthorne/floridas-tourism-trouble-record-numbers-but-business-is-down-5df33c07ba9a

I notice he doesn't try to defend much that he throws at you though.

These guys cant defend any of it without ai prompts and presenting links.  

Im thinking these guys couldnt hang on a reddit forum so they come here because anywhere else they would get destroyed and mocked.

This is what you do when you're only capable of making broad, unsupported bleatings and just HATE it when someone posts actual facts.
Your continuous whining is really comical.  
Here's something you can't say...

Weve got NamblaaNick following me around like a lil yapping Chui, posting lame gifs and thinking hes a big winner.  

These dudes victory laps consist of them farting in a bathtub, laughing their asses off.

.....

1.    They run away and don't (can't) respond
2.    Stupid gifs become their response
3.    They ignore the message and attack the source
4.    They attack grammar and punctuation and try to spike the football by calling someone stupid.

Sweetheart 1,

 
Just out of curiosity, which one am I? Or am I not "licking any wounds"? Must be the latter.  

 
Best,
Katie

You only fall under the 1st so far but maybe they'll grow on you.  Although, you generally show up again even after you tell the world that you've finished discussing the topic.   Weird that one feels compelled to announce a departure from the discussion but even more weird that you're so easily drawn back in.

HopefulCat555 reads

https://www.inc.com/leila-sheridan/trumps-canada-trade-war-hits-jack-daniels-and-jim-beam-with-a-devastating-143-million-loss/91313385
Trump’s Canada Trade War Hits Jack Daniel’s and Jim Beam With a Devastating $143 Million Loss

....BIDENFLATION that has destroyed the purchasing power of the vast majority of Americans.

The post-COVID hyperinflation was a worldwide phenomenon.  It had little if anything to do with Biden [ I can hear the outrage coming from the right-wing already ]. Whomever was president would have had the same inflation to deal with.  The U.S. recovered from this inflation faster than the rest of the world.  

Well you are partially correct.     Whom ever was in the white house would have been hit.    BUT it was what happened after the start of the stabilization of everything that hurt the USA a little more.    the "printing of money" and hand outs (yes Trump even did some during) was the issue.   The spend spend spend... of our government when they shouldn't have been doing it.    The market would have corrected earlier.    Biden himself wouldn't have had the extra huge inflation and it would have stabilized sooner.  Not just in Biden's last quarter or what ever.  It would have happened in the middle of his term.

 
That is what is being ignored.    Also Trump was apart of the problem too with writing checks when states shut down.    There was a part of the population that didn't get a check and were doing fine.   They handed out checks to people who didn't need them (retirees).    There was very well off people who were retired that got checks....when they didn't need them.   There were people who needed them and didn't get them (self employed who made just over $75K).     But yeah... things people don't want to talk about and admit.

The American Rescue Plan did cause inflation and was managed like a fucking college keg party but his highly flawed Inflation Reduction Act did little to curb it and for many reasons exacerbated the crisis.  

 
Had the Vice Prostitute won, I'm sure we'd already have another wealth transfer "act" underway that would be challenging Jimma Carter's run up of not just inflation but double digit prime rates as well.  

JD Vance, right?  JD whored himself out to become Trump's running mate.  This is the same JD who was a Never Trumper, who called Trump "unfit" for office, who called Trump an "idiot," and who called Trump "America's Hitler."

 
No one sucks Trump's cock harder than JD Vance...not even ReadyForCock.

Selectively looking at tariffs on countries that we already had some tariffs on is great... but please explain Canada to me.... how does Tariffs on Canada and Mexico make sense when Trump made deals with them 4 years prior... like seriously it's not remotely logical and republicans refuse to even question their own leadership.

RespectfulRobert85 reads

His approval rating on inflation is a horrendous 36%! Only in the village of Orange Man Great would that number be considered "good." smh

Right, I understand that in theory but the issue as far as I see it isn't about how it effects the economy in the short term but what happens in the long term. See right now leveraging our trading partners aggressively is working because of dependency. But no one likes to be leveraged.. are we not risking sending the rest of the world more aggressively towards China? It's already started happening. Besides.. what exactly about these tariffs is targeted to you? I was in favor of tariffs to an extent.. ironically so was Biden who added/kept some tariffs from the first admin. But now we have seemingly reckless tariffs on Canada and other countries that we already had trade agreements with.. why is he leveraging Canada when he's the one who made the trade deal with them four years prior.. explain that to me..

I dont think ive chatted with maybe 2 or 3 people on this forum that could actually explain what a tariff is used for and how it has effect on them.  

Most on here will look towards others opinions or polls. Sheep like that dont tend to be able to answer questions like what positive effects have the tariffs had on the economy. I dont think most of these cats have seen an econ class (if at all) since the mid 80s.

RespectfulRobert77 reads

Trump said prices would start falling on day one. They have gone UP since he took office. Was he lying or just wrong?

I think that if you believed that, you probably think the stripper likes you too.  

Doesnt mean Im gonna stop getting lap dances.

RespectfulRobert97 reads

You couldn't answer so you changed the topic. You aren't doing your master any favors. lol.

What are you going on about? I didnt change the topic i asked you to look at your perspective.  

My master? What are you rambling on about? Are you on meds?

RespectfulRobert84 reads

Let me know when you even attempt to answer my question, Mr Econ professor lol

Me asking you to change your perspective and it going over your head tells me that you cant handle this.  

I answered your question. In more ways than one.  

The basic forum shit with memes and big winners isnt gonna work with me bob.

Name all the prices that have "gone up"......

 
You are just rambling about what the "media" is saying.

 
Prices have stayed the same or dropped with thing that were directly related to Trade.

 
Some prices had nothing to do with Trumps policy (Eggs, Beef, etc)    

RespectfulRobert70 reads

Inflation is up which means, wait for it….PRICES are up. Nothing to with the media at all. It’s the federal government stats AND consumers both saying prices have risen under Trump. Please remove head from sand.

Prices rising couldnt have anything to do with Bidens printing cash spree, could it?

No, it doesn't. Not in 2025 or 2026. That's all on trump. If you're going to bring up Biden's 2021 $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan act don't forget to add in trump's 2020 $2.2 trillion CARES act. Dumbass.

Biden printed more than any other president and he only had 4 years. The effects from that surely would be felt beyond his presidency.

Actually trump added twice as much to the national debt than Biden. Keep living in that right-wing MAGA bubble.  

His tariffs will lower the national deficit. Give it time kid.

No, they won't.  They won't even come close to making a dent in our $38 trillion national debt. Meanwhile, tariffs are being passed on to the American consumer while foreign nations introduce retaliatory tariffs and expand trading with other countries.

RespectfulRobert75 reads

The topic is price and inflation rises under TRUMP. Just try and address that lie by him. Oh thats right. I already asked you and you struck out. lol.

I get it. If i were to tell you that fiscal and regulatory policies, such as large spending bills or supply-chain changes, often take years to fully work through the economy. Therefore, dumbshit, inflation observed early in a new term may reflect decisions made under prior leadership....

Its probably going to go right over wetawdedwoberts head

You want to blame Biden's COVID spending bill but not trump's. That hypocrisy. You won't blame trump's tariffs when economists universally agree tariffs cause further inflation. That's stupidity.

I dont put as much weight in what he has done because not enough time has passed to realy see what effects have taken place.  

What i dont do is cry the sky is falling.

RespectfulRobert60 reads

Trump said prices would come down on DAY ONE. We are on like day 380, at this point, which, since you dont do math, is WELL beyond day one, but keep defending the indefensible. You are VERY good at that at least. lol.

Son, class is over for the evening.  

Homework:  

Does the stripper really like me?  

Ill expect answers during tomorrows lesson

This guy has been whooping on all of you so sit the fuck down icky

This guy has been whooping on all of you so sit the fuck down icky

Talk about triggered.
So easy to play.
So predictable.
Such a troll.

Class will be on a delay today but teacher will still be teaching.  

An internet glitch does not equate to any form of being a big winner for you. Dont piss yourself icky. Youre still on the hot seat

You can dance around it all you want but its just proving youve met your match.  

Im just better at debate than you. You box yourself im with goofy thoughts and defend the undefendable
 
Maybe youll figure it out mr Namblaa

Have you really convinced yourself you're winning?
Your need to always have the last word is also apparent.
Please take it and then go suck some TS dick. Since most of your reviews are of trannies, you must really love that. Do you also felch? SwallowMeat would love to know. And I simply can't bear to actually read any of your reviews.

Actually Namblaa Nick, you seem to need to have the last word. Its your ocd acting up.  

You are resorting to getting personal, thats the tell tale sign when someone is defeated soundly. Ask ai if you need to.

As far as what i like to do, shouldnt bother you, but it obviously does. Yes, i have done some felching, but i didnt call it that. Once again, it bothers you more than it does me. I know what i am and have accepted myself. You seem like you are still very confused...as you are posting on a forum full of sex addicts. But you have yet to admit to yourself you are also an addict. You think you have moral highground. But in reality you are living in denial. And likelu living a double life, which must be hard mentally for you.  

And from your lack of reviews, seems like you are broke. Cant afford any hookers so you just troll around the sex addict forum. Helluva life.  

Fall from grace? Or did poor decisions just catch up finally?

followme75 reads

Ickypus the biggest…well actually the only  homophobe on TER
Ickypus puts his homophobia on full display, for all to see.
He exhibits and broadcasts his seething hate and destine for a part of the community.

 
Nothing but hate anger and vitriol.
Yes folks this is the REAL ickypus

And of course, arch-hypocrite that you are, not a word about ReadyForCock's blatant homophobia. All while flaunting his tranny love. We also know you love him because, like you, he revels in felching.

Printing cash isn't the main reason.

 
1. States requiring higher wages.
2. Transportation issues with states not allowing certain vehicles (semi's) to go into ports to ship product.  "Green"  
3. Beef industry killed off thousand and thousand of cattle because of drought.  Takes 18-24 months to bring a calf to butcher weight.
4. Bird Flu caused thousands and thousands of egg producing chickens to be killed off.   Takes about 6-12 months to get a chick up to egg laying status and then longer to get up to top egg laying production for that chicken.
5. should we talk about state taxes, regulations, etc.   That all hinder trade with in our Country.

 
Yeah... please name the things directly affected by tariffs.   That has no other thing making the prices go up.    Everything has multiple factors yet you and others only want to scream TARIFFS.     I have honestly seen prices dropping on things or staying the same.

1. Gas
2. Some food items
3. Vehicle prices.... 2026 models are the same price or lower than the 2025 models at the same time last year.  
4. Auto insurance in certain area's is staying the same or decreasing (dependent on drivers record)
5. Home insurance in certain areas are staying the same after the industry did a major correction.
- Major correction was undervalued homes, catching up to inflation, etc.... so the industry took rate increases and put a "hold" on writing new business.  Now the hold is off for some companies and industry wide they are talking about no more rate increases other than inflation guards.   Which inflation guards in many states are required by law.  With other companies open to write new business again it will open up competition and possibly lower rates than previous years.  OR the rates will hold steady.

 
But yeah.... tariffs.    

and there will be little relief until then but don't hold your breath that the price in the store will drop off much in 2 years.  The processors will do all they can to keep the prices elevated.  

The price of bacon has dropped! This from The US Inflation Calculator:
"Bacon Prices By Year And Adjusted For Inflation

Bacon is staple food for many who pair it with eggs for breakfast. The average American consumes 18 pounds of bacon annually, according to the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE).

The average price for a pound of bacon was $6.76 in December, compared to $6.928 in November, for a 2.4% decrease, according to data published January 13, 2026, by the U.S. Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

Over a longer period and averaging the BLS’s monthly pricing data, the per-pound cost of bacon was $6.78 in 2024 compared to $6.65 in 2023, marking a year-over-year increase of 1.8%."

Soooo Eee!

PROVE what prices have gone up dramatically???  

 
YOU CANT.... the only ones that you and others will say are commodities such as beef, eggs, milk, etc.    WHich has more to do with things in that industry.    Then the other aspect which is fucking ignored is regulations/wages that were forced onto industry by Biden administration and states.   Which has not a fucking thing to do with tariffs.  

 
$20 wages in states, beef industry that killed off cattle because of drought and now it takes 18-24 months to bring a calf to butcher weight, eggs were because of bird flu and the government ordering a kill of thousands and thousands of egg producing chickens,   The transportation regulations on semi's in states and across the nation.  Which make it so some vehicles can't go into states/ports to haul product.  Which then increases the costs, delay times, supply/stock, etc.  

 
Nothing to do with fucking tariffs.

 
SO again... please list the products and prices that increased strickly because of tariffs????

followme64 reads

Weak and obedient. Saying what you masters order you to say.
I Won’t speak for anyone else but since Trump took office I’m  
Paying about $0.65 less per gallon  of gasoline and noticeably less for groceries.

You are so easily manipulated it is sad.

 
BTW did you forget that at one point Biden had inflation at over 9%.
Yeah your masters would get pissed if you were honest and mentioned that

Fool,

 
Did you just say that you are paying "noticeably less for groceries"? That's odd because even the USDA admits prices are up, and they will continue to rise. You can say whatever you want, but we ALL go to the grocery store...

 
Best,
Katie

Katie,

 
I said some groceries.    Then main reason why average grocery bills are higher is because of protein costs (beef, eggs, chicken, etc).     Which i clearly showed why some are higher in prices.     When your protein goes up by $2 lbs or more.   That is a major factor in overall "total" grocery bill.    

 
Also groceries can be different prices because of region you live in.    Like I mentioned states that increased mandatory min wages.   That $20 an hour needs to be made up .... 10% increase in goods.    

 
But yeah.... I have seen things drop in price on certain goods.   Not "sale" items.  

followme82 reads

Yes I am paying noticeably  less for gasoline (especially) and most all food items since Trump took office.

 
My post is about the past 10 months or so not what I’m going to pay in the future  

-- Modified on 2/6/2026 3:56:57 PM

Katie,

Look at the link you posted.    It is saying on average the increase for in store grocery bill is an increase of 3% for 2026.

Beef is 9% increase
Chicken is 0.2% increase
Eggs are down 22% (decrease)
Veggies/fruits is 2% increase
sweets 6.7% increase.

With these major increases..... how come the total bill is only 3% increase if other things are "going up"???    

 
It goes right with what I stated about proteins and wages.  

 
Lets break down wages with where are most fruits and veggies harvested.  looking at min wages in those states.  

 
CA - min wage is going from $16 to $16.90 in 2026  (70% of all fruits, veggies and nuts come from here)
FL- min wage is going from $14 to $15 in 2026
WA - min wage is $17
MI - going from $12.50 to $13.75 (roughly) in 2026
OR - min wage is $15
MN - min wage is $11 an hour from the previous $10

 
All of these wages have gone up and the CPI on the increase is over 2%.     How is that Trumps fault.    BTW.... these 6 states is where the most fruits and veggies come from in the USA.  

 
Also the link you posted by the USDA with sweets.... well sugar beet harvest in certain area's was down.  Which increase the costs of sugar.  PLUS RFK jr. attack on sugary things isn't helping.  

 
But again..... these are not 100% "tariff" issues.   I just showed you and proved it is wages and then what happened with proteins with the beef and chicken industries.    

 
So again.... yes prices on proteins have gone up with what I talked about... prices on some fruits, veggies, and nuts have gone up but because of labor cost issues.     Which means other things have gone down.    

 
But with a $100 grocery bill a $2 increase in a single item is 2%....   If beef goes up $2 a lbs (steaks, ground meat, stew meat, etc), veggies go up by $2 total, fruits in total go up by $1, etc.  Cost of sugary snacks/drinks up $1 total..... That is +5% increase yet the index says total bill will only go up by 3%.

 
Again this is just off of what your link says.    So yes some grocery items are decreasing.    

Hey, Mr. Charisma,

 
I am trying to find the least partisan sources of evidence possible. I do not believe the USDA's numbers. But even the US government is no longer denying that prices have risen.

 
I have also not placed "blame" on any single entity. What I said was that only a fool would say that prices have dropped significantly. There's a difference. Regardless, the math doesn't add up.

 
We do still consider NPR non-partisan, right? I don't know what is considered fake anymore. But here's NPR's take on how it 'feels' to us regular people.  

 
Love,
Katie

Katie,

Correct select items have risen.  There is no denying that.   The point I am making is that it isn't ALL ITEMS like many want you to believe.   But most of it is higher $ things.   Like mentioned Beef.   ground beef went from $2.99/$3.99 for 1lbs "chubs" to $4.99/$5.99 (and higher).    Just right there can be 2% of a $100 grocery bill, with one item.    Which many US citizens are beef consumers.   US consumes about 56 lbs of beef per person a year.   That is roughly a pound a week.  So like my example from above.... 1 week worth of a $100 grocery bill.      

 
Then with veggies and fruits.... same thing.   If 1lbs of apples goes up $0.25.... that is $1.50 increase in a 5lbs bag.   Which many people that is how they buy apples.   So include that with beef... that is a 3.5% increase with just 2 items.   Which is about what the USDA says is the increase of an overall grocery bill.    2 items can do it.

 
I appreciate you trying to find unbiased info.   But it actually proved what I am talking about.   Select items have gone up but not EVERYTHING.....which some want you to believe.    

Regulation and weather over the last several yeas and Diesel at almost $6/gal in 2022 have so much more to do with this industry than anything Trump has done.  This is an industry that has been under attack since barrack HUSSEIN obama was in office.

placing Tariff's on foreign beef but at the end it says the farmers are screaming at him for making a deal with a foreign country to bring beef into the US.  Oh....I get it now, it's an opportunity to bring out the Argentina deal to smash him over the head with some more....

 
Fun fact:  There are 4 meat processing companies that are maintaining the artificial high cost of beef.  This has been the norm for decades.   The market, whether good or bad for farmers and ranchers is always good for the middle man.  There is the devil(s) you should be hollering at.

So it blames Trump for tariffs and then blames him for making deals with Argentina for beef.   Farmers are never happy.   Especially ones who get interviewed by CNBC.... they look for the anti trump ones.    

 
Tariffs are not the reason why beef is so high.    Less cattle is the reason.  Then processing plants having control on how much product they push out.     It isn't fucking Tariffs.

 
You need to sit this one out.   If you are in the USA go to a sales barn and watch a cattle auction.  You will see farmers bidding crazy for feeders and calves.  Plus breed heifers.        Butyeah.... facts escape you.

For over a decade, a group I am in have been buying 8 calves in the spring, raising over the summer and finishing with a local hobby farmer.  We haven't the last two years because it's gotten ridiculous.  Too bad, I had arranged this years ago with a southern MN rancher that has a great herd they've spent decades perfecting...

 
Maybe next year....

BINGO.... these people on here that want to blame TRUMP for anything and everything have no clue.    

 
Remember we are just ROCKS and COWS in Mn.   Yet they are ignoring the fact we know what the fuck we are talking about with Cows.    

 
I had a farmer 3 years ago tell me to stock up on beef.   He was at the local auction barn and stated the price of calves.  It was insane.

HopefulCat572 reads

Last year, the US labor market posted the weakest job growth outside of a recession since 2003, Bureau of Labor Statistics data shows.

Good to know that you, like trump, are pro-tariff.  You must think that the vast majority of economists who oppose tarrifs are all wrong. Your knowledge of tariffs must be so superior to theirs.  I sure hope your knowledge of economics is better than your writing ability and your command of the English-language. Bravo, sir. We are all in awe. Dumbass.

I don't see tariffs as inherently good or bad but I really wish republicans could at least acknowledge that Trumps execution is rather reckless. Not a single person on here has explained why tariffs on Canada make any sense and every explanation is less intelligent than the last. You're right, tariffs can be an incredibly effective tool BUT only if they are used strategically. Just placing tariffs on every country with seemingly no direction is spray and pray economics and while that will certainly give you some things to cheer about when making your points it will also give you consequences that we really cannot predict and will bear out over the next ten years. I mean this guy raised Tariffs on Canada because he didn't like their commercial quoting Reagan! I guess all I'm saying is I wish republicans would be self critical of their president when he does dumb shit instead of defending everything assuming he must have some grand plan. I know I certainly criticized Biden when the dems were in power and I criticize Obama all the time. Just because you support someone doesn't mean you have to swear fealty.

tariffs on canada....  Trade imbalance.   Yes it is that simple.

 
1. they are one-sided prior to Trump.     Look at the milk industry in the USA.  What is allowed to go to canada and what not.    I could type 10 pages on it.   But lets just say Canada is fucking the USA on this one with evaporated milk, bulk milk, etc.

 
2.  Lumber..... same goes for that.   USA was getting screwed.   A lot of that was also because of policy in the USA with the lumber industry.  It is why we imported about 87% of Canadian lumber industry.

 
3. Quota's on steel and what not.

 
4.  Fertilizer for farmers.    Especially pot ash.    Canada held kind of a monopoly on it.    Trying to use tariffs to even that out.  

 
There is a lot more.    But these are some big ones.    Plus wanting US investment on US soil.    Some car manufacturers were moving plants to Canada (Jeep).    Now Canada is suing Jeep because they are backing out of a facility after the Canadian Gov gave them money and incentives to build there.  

 
So yes.... tariffs are leveraged to get outcomes for the USA.     But what is going on with Canada is more of a pissing match between two leaders.

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that Trump himself renegotiated and settled on a new trade agreement during his first term.... then ran on a platform that we made bad deals with Canada when in fact IT WAS HIS DEAL. Why didn't he raise any of these issues when he negotiated the first time?

Yes he did renegotiate and there was a termination/expiration date.   They was also things he didn't get the first time around and wants to get now.

 
Just like Canada wanted other things and didn't get them.  

 
THINGS YOU CONVENIENTLY IGNORE.      

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Trump’s Economic Approval Rating Hits Record Low of 34%

Hey Hopeful,

 
I've really enjoyed your posts. Please keep them coming!

 
Love,
Katie

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Hey Hopeful,  

I've really enjoyed your posts. Please keep them coming!  

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France Nuyen in her first movie role, a non-speaking role, as Liat.

Thank you for starting my day with this!

 
Love,
Katie

I knew these bozos couldnt have an actual debate regarding tariffs. Its only shit slinging and durr trump so bad.  

I expected nothing less and boy did yall deliver.

Can you form your own opinion or do you just parrot what the guy says?

How about them apples! Now, do you agree or disagree with Rattner. Why and what are your sources?

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What is correct on specifically and what factors do you agree with that led to these conclusions?

Crickets.  

These fools cant debate. A handful can only post articles. The others can only argue.  

This is like the smelly basement of these forums.

Wow. I whooped up on yall in this thread.  

Should call me Trick Willy cause i walked on yall like i had my lemon peppa steppas on.  

Yall just cannot hang. Do better.

That's a sure Tell he knows he's a loser. AGAIN.
As Laffy used to say, "Wave that White Flag high and proud!"

An article from September.....     Trump has since made deals with other countries who are buying AG Products.

 
Keep up with the times.

HopefulCat555 reads

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-dollar-decline-impact-consumers-business-money/

HopefulCat572 reads

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/a-year-in-review-how-the-trump-administrations-economic-policies-made-life-less-affordable-for-americans/

FROM YOUR ARTICLE:

The risks of a government shutdown are also rising, as Democratic lawmakers demand reforms to how immigration agencies are carrying out Mr. Trump's agenda ahead of a Saturday shutdown deadline. If that occurs, it would follow last year's historically long shutdown, which spanned 43 days, disrupting air travel and leaving thousands of workers without paychecks.  

That uncertainty is prompting some investors to tread more cautiously when it comes to the dollar, said Nigel Green, CEO of financial advisory firm de Vere Group. The dollar's strength depends on "institutional stability, fiscal credibility and policy predictability," he said in an email. "Shutdown risks weaken all three pillars."

 

So government shut down and government spending isn't a factor????    Seriously.

HopefulCat560 reads

A key factor causing concern over sales is the extent to which producers are having to pass higher costs on to customers in the form of raised prices. These concerns appear most prevalent in the consumer goods sector, though is a common thread across all manufacturers, with higher costs continuing to be overwhelmingly blamed on tariffs.

Economists at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and Columbia University are reporting that, through November 2025, 90% of the economic burden of trump's tariffs fell on U.S. companies and consumers.

HopefulCat552 reads

Analysis shows that the world is moving closer to China, as Trump’s isolationism rears its head at the United Nations

Hopeful,

 
Again, I am one of your greatest fans. And I am not claiming to be better than the three authors of this piece. But I object to the verbiage used. Whatever Trump is doing is NOT "America First" or "isolationism". Matter of fact, it is the exact opposite. Trump has been involved with the affairs of every country EXCEPT America. I do like the catch phrase "America Alone". That seems more befitting. But that's my .02.  

 
Best,
Katie

HopefulCat538 reads

The Treasury may need to borrow an extra $1.6 trillion to cover the hole left by tariff ruling and pay a further $400 billion in debt interest

HopefulCat540 reads

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2026/03/31/aluminum-worlds-dumbest-tariff/

HopefulCat535 reads

Millions of Americans paid billions in tariffs later ruled illegal — and they won’t see a dime back

HopefulCat527 reads

France Pulls All Gold Out of US Federal Reserve
https://www.newsweek.com/france-pulls-all-gold-out-of-us-federal-reserve-11792591

HopefulCat545 reads

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-04/iran-volodymyr-zelenskyy-gulf-strait-of-hormuz-macron-merz/106511122?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other

HopefulCat530 reads

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/sp-500-heads-worst-quarter-since-2022-iran-war-rate-worries-rattle-wall-street-2026-03-31/

retreat driven in ​large part by inflation fears,

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