Politics and Religion

Poll: Will Pence pardon Trump?
impposter 49 Reviews 184 reads
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In one scenario, over the next ~2 months, Trump pardons family and friends and anyone who makes a big donation to his PAC. As Jan 20, 2021 approaches, Trump resigns (or temporarily steps aside under the 25th Amendment) and Pence becomes POTUS for a few hours for the sole purpose of pardoning Trump.  
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Will Pence agree to cooperate and actually pardon Trump?  
Will Pence pretend to agree, become POTUS for a few hours, but then refuse to issue the Trump pardon?  
Will Pence refuse to go along with the plan leaving Trump as POTUS until 12 noon on Jan 20?  
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I'm ambivalent. I mostly see Pence as a manipulable spineless weakling who would surely play along and pardon Trump. On the other hand, I can almost see Pence take over as POTUS, get struck by lightning or have a holy vision and not issue the pardon, as agreed. I guess I have to go with "WILL pardon."  
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Mark your ballot here. I am going with [X] for WILL pardon.
[X] Pence WILL pardon Trump.
[  ] Pence will NOT pardon Trump.

inicky46 61 Reviews 8 reads
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Pence has almost no future as a Presidential candidate but if he screws him he has no future at all.

Steve_Trevor 6 reads
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not only to get pardoned from any Federal crimes he may have committed, but to mess with Biden by making anything about “46” moot.

 
Yeah, Trump is that petty. But, we knew that.

gentleguy1020 38 Reviews 7 reads
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But he cannot  pardon him from any future federal crime Trump might commit.
Of course the same is true about any current and future state crimes.

Beefman69 16 Reviews 10 reads
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....and he will do what he is asked ....

impposter 49 Reviews 25 reads
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Sorry to bump this thread, but I thought this was better here than as a reply to the other thread:  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/trump-must-be-exposed-under-oath-as-the-liar-and-fraud-that-he-is-379122?#379122
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First, I wanted to point out that when Ford pardoned Nixon, it was conditional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon
"Ford, however, insisted on a statement of contrition; Nixon felt he had not committed any crimes and should not have to issue such a document. Ford eventually agreed, and on September 8, 1974, he granted Nixon a "full, free, and absolute pardon" that ended any possibility of an indictment. Nixon then released a statement: "I was wrong in not acting more decisively and more forthrightly in dealing with Watergate, particularly when it reached the stage of judicial proceedings and grew from a political scandal into a national tragedy. No words can describe the depth of my regret and pain at the anguish my mistakes over Watergate have caused the nation and the presidency, a nation I so deeply love, and an institution I so greatly respect.""  
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There is NO WAY that Pence will ask for such any sort of admission from Trump. Trump is INCAPABLE of admitting to any error or taking any responsibility.
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Then, the Ford pardon was limited to crimes committed during Nixon's tenure as POTUS. It did not cover anything BEFORE or AFTER his time in office.  "Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in ***during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.***"
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There should be NO PARDON from federal crimes committed as a private citizen before or after serving as POTUS. Which brings us to the other thread about investigations and prosecutions of Trump after Jan 20, 2021. I want to see and hear Trump testify as a witness, UNDER OATH, before Congressional investigative committees. Every other sentence Trump utters will be perjury and lying to Congress will be a new, punishable offense.  I want to see and hear Trump testify in federal courts as a witness. Let me emphasize: initially NOT as a defendant in any given case, thanks to a Pence pardon, but as a WITNESS. Perjury, perjury, contempt of court, perjury, ... and just charge Trump with NEW crimes (post-POTUS), lying under oath.  

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